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hey people i know this topic was on but i need to do it again! i want to get in 40K.
I have VC army but now i'm looking for a low model army and cool looking ( gray knight and CSM look very cool to me)
i'm looking for army up to 1750 points. can anyone suggest me anything ^^ thank you very muck =D

FMC daemons is probably among the cheapest especially if you have and modeling skills or bits order. The daemon prince kit comes with nearly enough bits to make 2 princes (if you have extra bits, can buy them or convert stuff), so 2 of those a fateweaver model and 2 troop boxes comes very close to 1750 I think.

Chaos Space marines can be $350 for 1500 points, no problem. Dark Vengeance etc...makes it easy. Attack force is pretty decent.

The two cheapest armies are;
Draigowing
Jy2's List from batrep: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/576362.page
Solid list and you can learn a lot from his batreps with it.
455 usd from GW or ~364 usd from here http://www.frontlinegaming.org/games-workshop/


FMC Circus has a lot more variants and depending on if you want to use just CD or CD+CSM it changes drastically.

I run something like below which costs 358.50 usd from GW or ~286.80 usd from http://www.frontlinegaming.org/games-workshop/


Both of these lists are actually pretty good and I have done very well for myself with the chaos list (I run something a bit different for the GK but his list is probably better overall). The both armies have a pretty good amount of tactics involved in playing them properly but the chaos list has actual strategic forethought that goes into it's use. If you haven't planned the game in your head at deployment with a chaos FMC circus list you are probably going to loose badly but if you plan well, roll well, and pick the right gifts and powers for the situation a FMC circus list can become neigh unstoppable.

 Seablast wrote:
hey people i know this topic was on but i need to do it again! i want to get in 40K.
I have VC army but now i'm looking for a low model army and cool looking ( gray knight and CSM look very cool to me)
i'm looking for army up to 1750 points. can anyone suggest me anything ^^ thank you very muck =D

Blood Angels
The Sanguinor
Dante
5 Sanguinary Guard (as Troops) w/ all upgrades
5 Assault Marines (Thunderhammer, Infernus Pistol) in Landraider w/ Extra Armour
2x Furioso Librarian
1500 pts to the point with 15 models including the LR.

Space Wolves
1x Logan
1x Wolf Lord as TH/SS Terminator, Warrior Born, Belt of Russ, Wolftooth, Wolftail.,

3 Wolfguard (as Troops) with 2x TH/SS Terminator + 1x Arjac
3 Wolfguard (as Troops) with 3x TH/SS Terminator
2x Landraider + Extra Armour
1500 pts. with 10 models including the Landraiders.

Grey Knights
1998 points total, 7 models.
Draigo - 275
Grandmaster - mastery level 2, master-crafted psycannon, master-crafted warding stave, 3 servo skulls, digital weapons, meltabombs, blind grenades, psychtroke grenades, rad grenades, Empyrean brain mines, orbital strike relay- 420
Paladin - apothecary, master-crafted warding stave - 155
Paladin - apothecary, master-crafted warding stave - 155
Stormraven Gunship - typhoon missile launcher, hurricane bolters, searchlight, truesilver armour, extra armour, teleport homer, psybolt ammo - 331
Stormraven Gunship - typhoon missile launcher, hurricane bolters, searchlight, truesilver armour, extra armour, teleport homer, psybolt ammo - 331
Stormraven Gunship - typhoon missile launcher, hurricane bolters, searchlight, truesilver armour, extra armour, teleport homer, psybolt ammo - 331
Stormravens just pip Redeemers and the GM easily outstrips maximum librarian points. although a Librarian can be costlier than Draigo, he's needed to make the paladin-apothecaries troops.

Blood Angels again
The Sanguinor
Mephiston
5x Death Company (5x Thunder Hammers, Plasma Pistol, 5x Jump Packs)
Death Company Dreadnought (Heavy Flamer, Magna Grapple, Searchlight)
Furioso Dreadnought (Searchlight)
Stormraven Gunship (Typhoon Missile Launchers, Hurricane Bolters, Extra Armor, Locator Beacon, Searchlight)
Stormraven Gunship (Typhoon Missile Launchers, Hurricane Bolters, Extra Armor, Locator Beacon, Searchlight)
Stormraven Gunship (Typhoon Missile Launchers, Hurricane Bolters, Extra Armor, Locator Beacon, Searchlight)
2,000 points, 12 models

Deathwing
Death wing.
15 termies-$50 per 5 man set=$150
1 dreadnought=$41.25
1 Master of the death wing=generic HQ blister=$15
thats $206.25 + tax and/or shipping and that isn't even a full army at the 1,850-2,000 points level.

Necrons
Buy two battleforces. A Command Barge, Immotek and a unit of lychguard.
List
20 warriors
2 ghost arks.
Anrakyr on a command barge.
Immotek
5 deathmarks (or 10 if you cut points elsewhere, made using extra warrior bodies and the deathmark left overs from battleforces)
10 scarabs
10 immortals
2 chrono/destruction courts made from extra warriors and the 10 spare "staff" weapons in the lychguard box.
5 lychguard with shields.
Total points. 2000.
Total $$$ 294.25 from GW's website. or 235.40$ from the warstore.

I saw you said cheap in relation to gw and lol`d.

You can build up an army buying the Dark Vengeance models off ebay, they go pretty cheaply.

CSMs from a DV POV are probly a good bet as you can buy DV and convert the dark angels to chaos reasonably easy,

converting dark angels to CSMs gives you a chaos force consisting of...

2 Chaos Lords,
1 Sorcerer
5 terminators
10 Chaos Space Marines
3 Bikes.
20 Cultists,
1 Helbrute
6 Chosen


that's a pretty solid starter force, and conveniantly gives you a fully "FOC legal army" with a little bit of every thing in every FOC slot.

in terms of whats there some folks might argue about how optimized it is, but it's not a bad starter army at all

hobojebus wrote:
I saw you said cheap in relation to gw and lol`d.

Yep, wrong hobby unfortunately.

 Rippy wrote:

hobojebus wrote:
I saw you said cheap in relation to gw and lol`d.

Yep, wrong hobby unfortunately.

When you look at other games like x-wing it looks even worse, £25 for the starter maybe another £40-50 to expand to a 150 point list and your done for under a hundred.

I definitely know how much is this hobby cots, because I play fantasy! i'm looking for relatively lower price! nice balance between cool figs and low prices ! i will definitely go for gray knights! i think i will go somthing like 10 terminators , draigo, 1 drednought and Dreadknight! i hope i can do something with this figs. or do i need a bit more? thx guys

Need more than that for a big army, but you can certainly make smaller point games with that.

1 draigo 2boxs of terminators , a dreadknight and an Inquisitor made out of an WFB imperial model can be 1500pts.

what do i need more to get to 1750?

GW and low budget. Just does not equate.

Now the question is, are you going to play for fun, or need to win? Both armies right now, the internet say they are cool but don't win in 6th edition.

I say go with CSM. Yes you may not win many games, but the modelling aspects seem so much fun. Then again, it might just cost you more, since you will want to do more and more.

So maybe Grey Knights will be for you.

cheapest army for most bang? 3 Knights, rulebook, and wd/codex is tempting...

Seablast wrote:I definitely know how much is this hobby cots, because I play fantasy! i'm looking for relatively lower price! nice balance between cool figs and low prices ! i will definitely go for gray knights! i think i will go somthing like 10 terminators , draigo, 1 drednought and Dreadknight! i hope i can do something with this figs. or do i need a bit more? thx guys

Seablast wrote:what do i need more to get to 1750?

I would recommend a stormraven, coteaz, and 5 henchmen.

Space Marines, easy to find on the cheap for eBay or swap here on Dakka.

I may have a small tyranid army on ebay...hint hint..wink wink...


but seriously necron battleforce. command bargex2 lych guard and trazyn

gets you the troops heavy support royal court for trazyn and a guard group for trazyn to keep him alive. its about $290 depending how you buy

Dark Angels

Dark Angels

Dark Angels

Dark Angels

Dark Angels

I had to say it that many times to correct for every answer that isn't Dark Angels, because it is BY FAR the cheapest starter army.

Deathwing terminators are expensive, pointswise, and because they're part of the DV box, they're absurdly cheap, moneywise. You can make a 1,000 point army with 3 squads of 5 deathwing terminators and the proper HQ choice. Going over to eBay, and you can see that 15 DV terminators and a DV HQ come to about $50, depending on the deal (there's a multi-auction going on at the moment of my typing that would get it to you for cheaper).

Let me put that again in its own paragraph:

$50 for a 40k army. New, and unpainted. Nothing else comes close to that. You're spending as much for a whole army as most do for a single unit (or single model).

You can also do ravenwing for similarly very, very cheap, because it's also in the DV box. So if what you want is the cheapest 40k army, then, at least until a new box comes out, the answer is...

Dark Angels.

 conker249 wrote:
cheapest army for most bang? 3 Knights, rulebook, and wd/codex is tempting...

That is not funny if that is what you attempted. If not, how is that cheap? Over $600 to play minimum. You can buy other armies to start playing for half the price. So how is that cheap on a low budget? You can't even buy them used.

Inquisition can be quite cheap as well. Codex is inexpensive, and you can use whatever models you want as long as you keep it WYSIWYG.