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Hi guys, i wanna know if necrons are worth it. Im beginning to thing that there mid range guns are to bad. Maybe i should get orks or tau? Please help!

Are they worth it? In what way? I find people who smoke and drink not worth it, but many people do it. I find going out to dinner a lot of times not worth it.

Worth is up to the individual. A lot, maybe almost the entire would would think 40K is not worth it. Why pay $100 for something that basically costs $1-$10 to make? So if you going by the majority, 40K is not worth it.

Each individual item has worth to some people, not worth to other people? For some, CSM and DA are not "worth" playing because they are boring or internet bad. For others they LOVE them and play CSM and DA even though the internet and forums say they are wrong.

Seeing how many people play Necrons it is worth it to them.

So from what I gather from your rather simple sentence, you need to win with plastic toy soldiers. Then again you said Orks so maybe not.

If you want Orks, rumour is they might get a new codex soon. Buy small, get your army started and then invest because the new codex can invalidate the 4th edition builds.

Also what is your play style? Having Tau one of the most I must win with plastic toy soldiers army out there, may not be worth if for you if it doesn't suit your play style.

So are you a shooty or assaulty person? Hordes or few elites broods/squads? Maybe a combination off all of them?

Is money an issue? Can you afford to buy all the stuff that is "worth" it?

Do you like to model and paint?

Do you play for fun or need to win?

There is so many things we really need to know before we know if it's "worth" it to you. It would be good to better explain yourself what you really would like. At first I thought this was a troll post. Giving the benefit of the doubt.

I like being shootybut with lots of guys in the army

Necrons are good at shooting. I believe (haven't played 6th) they have good anti air as well.

You can have many models as well I believe. Not a true horde army, but can have many warriors depending on the points limit. I have the codex, and find it very favourable. Also they get a chance to come back once killed, unless the entire squad is killed.

Great looking MC, and vehicles. I am starting a Necron army for my son. It seems like a fun army to play. How it plays to win, I am not sure, we play for fun and make up rules on the fly sometimes to make it more fun.

Hope this helps.

Kk if you start a necron army warn your son that in most games the opponent will get in range before you do

Necrons have a lot of builds and are easy to paint. Way fewer special rules than they used to have makes them both an easier army to play and also play against. Background wise they kind of stand alone so if that is an issue be aware of it

You're joking, right? You can deploy in range with 24" against most everything except Tau, who will be hanging back because they get an extra 6" of range. But that's fine, because if you go first, you can just move forwards and shoot, and if not then you've only given the enemy an extra turn of shooting that, between t4, 4+ or 3+ saves, and Ressurection Protocols... really isn't going to do all that much damage to you.

That's without even remembering all of the movement shananigans Necrons can pull off. They can have up to three units teleporting freely anywhere they like, every turn. They can mount the entire army in fliers. They have insanely tough, skimming, open-topped transports to move into range silly-fast.

The Necrons' short range really isn't a problem.

I think there just crap, or not for me. I'd like to get a Tau army but the codex is expensive and it'll take me like 10 weeks worth of pocket money 2 buy it. Im ebaying my old warhammer and lotr stuff, which i estimate ill get bout £125 for it.

Nope, not crap. They don't suffer last edition's problem of getting out ranged; now they can steadily advance while laying down Gauss fire, as necrons should do.

Besides, not all of their weapons are 24"; Heavy Gauss Cannons and Eldritch lances should be able to shoot something per turn.
There's also the gun on the Doomsday Ark, which has something like 72" range. Can't move and shoot though, and it is very dependent on how the table is set up.

I agree that there reliable but my friends make short work of them with boomguns demolisher cannons and carnifexes.

So? All that tells me is that the Necron player did not prepare his list to deal with those. The Necron codex comes with tools to deal with all of those.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
So? All that tells me is that the Necron player did not prepare his list to deal with those. The Necron codex comes with tools to deal with all of those.

This, any Necron player worth their salt will bring tools to deal with both MCs and armour. And killing Nids will be your smallest worry

I just don't think i have the right army and for me the nids are really hard to kill with a crap tonne of geanestealers charging my rang ed units. I also redone the army selector and my result changed from necrons to dark elder and tau equally

How can you fail to kill a T4 unit with a 5+ save?

Can you post your list?

First army I got, I got real used to winning if I got up close and getting destroyed from a distance. Solid army in my opinion.

Yes, great army. A lot of options, and builds and variety ways to win without being WAAC, or if you want to be WAAC there's options for that too.

I've won close to 18 matches in a row with my necrons. The only match I've lost was the very first game I played learning the rules.

Playing Necrons is pretty forgiving. You have the tools to do pretty much anything.

I've heard we're not very much fun to play against, however.

I just don't think i have the right army and for me the nids are really hard to kill with a crap tonne of geanestealers charging my rang ed units. I also redone the army selector and my result changed from necrons to dark elder and tau equally

Sounds like you are better off playing Waveserpent spam with Wraithknights to me then.

EDIT: Somehow got the wrong person quoted.

The Necrons got hugely benefited by the changes from 5e to 6e across the board save for a few units hardly anyone was using anyway (Praetorians and Lychguards). They are still in pretty much every top five codex list and have a lot of viable and workable builds. About the only downside is minimal out of codex options, with only IA12, a few apoc units (and still no Medusa V Tomb Stalker, I'm starting to think FW is actively trolling us about it at this point), and that Damnos sheet really giving anything to the crons.

Otherwise, it's a rock solid book and one that remains a gold standard for other dexes to measure up to.

 Kain wrote:
The Necrons got hugely benefited by the changes from 5e to 6e across the board save for a few units hardly anyone was using anyway (Praetorians and Lychguards). They are still in pretty much every top five codex list and have a lot of viable and workable builds. About the only downside is minimal out of codex options, with only IA12, a few apoc units (and still no Medusa V Tomb Stalker, I'm starting to think FW is actively trolling us about it at this point), and that Damnos sheet really giving anything to the crons.

To be fair...that was a campaign specific unit.

It would still be nice to give Necrons proper SHVs. I want to see the Abbatoir and the Aeonic Orb on the table (though I suspect the Vault may have been inspired by the latter).

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 Kain wrote:
The Necrons got hugely benefited by the changes from 5e to 6e across the board save for a few units hardly anyone was using anyway (Praetorians and Lychguards). They are still in pretty much every top five codex list and have a lot of viable and workable builds. About the only downside is minimal out of codex options, with only IA12, a few apoc units (and still no Medusa V Tomb Stalker, I'm starting to think FW is actively trolling us about it at this point), and that Damnos sheet really giving anything to the crons.

To be fair...that was a campaign specific unit.

It would still be nice to give Necrons proper SHVs. I want to see the Abbatoir and the Aeonic Orb on the table (though I suspect the Vault may have been inspired by the latter).

I want my straight Titan equivalent god damn it. You can't just drop something about an uber-necron canoptek unit that slaughters it's way through a Titan legion and just not expect people to not want rules for it.

On that note, I also want that Uber-Trygon in the 5e Nid book too.

Ah, well there's your problem. It's too big

FW will have to make a mini steel cockroach of death

It is a bit of tease. All of the necron's fluff talks about them having doomsday devices out the USB port, and we hardly see them.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Ah, well there's your problem. It's too big

FW will have to make a mini steel cockroach of death

IIRC, it was only stopped by a Chaos Emperor Class Titan after it destroyed it's supporting legion in a rampage distinctly reminiscent of the first appearance of the T-34.

Yes Necron's are worth having, They can kill superheavys/Any vehicle in one turn of shooting with basic troops, can take out Gargantuan Monsters Creatures/IC's/MC with MMS, Warscythes, the biggest draw back is range 24 on all but a few weapon types, and having to find a play style and works for you.

Other than the few draw backs that are built into them, they can be great.

Yep, way too big. I think FW might have the manufacturing capacity to make a Warlord-size model though (theoretically. A Warlord is approximately 24" tall, and a revenant titan is 22", although thinner. So they aren't quite far off from producing WLs)

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Yep, way too big. I think FW might have the manufacturing capacity to make a Warlord-size model though (theoretically. A Warlord is approximately 24" tall, and a revenant titan is 22", although thinner. So they aren't quite far off from producing WLs)

Simply make smaller Uber-Canopteks with a similar classification system (scout, sorta battley, battle, emperor).

Problem solved.

 Kain wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Yep, way too big. I think FW might have the manufacturing capacity to make a Warlord-size model though (theoretically. A Warlord is approximately 24" tall, and a revenant titan is 22", although thinner. So they aren't quite far off from producing WLs)

Simply make smaller Uber-Canopteks with a similar classification system (scout, sorta battley, battle, emperor).

Problem solved.

Yes, that would be suitable.

I still want that Abbatoir though. I mean, it's a floating Pyramid of Death that sucks the life-force out of people with huge tentacles, and is accompanied by scarab swarms of biblical proportions. That's pretty metal.
The only way it could be even more metal is if the Stormlord was riding on top of it, raining down lightning bolts while playing an electric guitar.

Or a megalith. That would do.

To answer the OP, yes they are worth having. And without reiterating the above posters, they have lots of build and can deal with everything pretty well.

But I also don't think you would like Dark Eldar if you don't like Necron's "short range". Other than lance weapons, DE have very little to take on armor at range. For example, one of the best anti-tank choices is 4 18" guns in a 10 armor all-around 2 hull point skimmer. Also 5+ and 6+ saves across the board with T3 is easily the squishiest army.

Im back, i want you to make a decision. Are necrons better at shooting or are tau?

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 Kain wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Yep, way too big. I think FW might have the manufacturing capacity to make a Warlord-size model though (theoretically. A Warlord is approximately 24" tall, and a revenant titan is 22", although thinner. So they aren't quite far off from producing WLs)

Simply make smaller Uber-Canopteks with a similar classification system (scout, sorta battley, battle, emperor).

Problem solved.

Yes, that would be suitable.

I still want that Abbatoir though. I mean, it's a floating Pyramid of Death that sucks the life-force out of people with huge tentacles, and is accompanied by scarab swarms of biblical proportions. That's pretty metal.
The only way it could be even more metal is if the Stormlord was riding on top of it, raining down lightning bolts while playing an electric guitar.

It often seems like you need to force Forgeworld to make models for things that aren't Eldar, Imperial Guard, Space Marines, Chaos, Orks, or Tau.