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I don't think it applies to 6th anymore but in 5th, when rolling to see who goes first, and the first roll is a tie, and you roll again, and it's still a tie, the game is over.

Davor wrote:
I don't think it applies to 6th anymore but in 5th, when rolling to see who goes first, and the first roll is a tie, and you roll again, and it's still a tie, the game is over.

Lol, seriously? xD

That would technically still apply. The rules specifically forbid you from re-rolling anything more than once.

Since we only play 2nd edition,this might not make much sense to many,but here goes!

If you have the Assassins or Witch Hunt mission your entire army may ignore the 'choosing a target' rules and fire at the object of your mission.

If one of your squads is in h2h, but not all models are engaged, then the un-engaged models may shoot in their turn. Or even run away!

You may use any weapon or grenade that isn't 'move or fire' in h2h against a vehicle.

You may begin the game in hiding, even though nobody ever does.

If a Chaos player has Daemons waiting to be summoned then every time an enemy model teleports- for any reason- it is possessed on a roll of a 1. Warp Spiders just love this rule!

I'm the only person in my group that EVER remembers to throw a grenade as part of a short-range shooting attack.

That the Aegis Defense Line works on TLoS like everything else

It baffles me how many times people claim that standing within 2" of it gives you its cover save

 CrownAxe wrote:
That the Aegis Defense Line works on TLoS like everything else

It baffles me how many times people claim that standing within 2" of it gives you its cover save

The inverse of that, I've met a lot of people who think that you have to be within 2" to claim the cover save...

Gets hot + template. nobody at my FLGS rolls, ever. I have pointed this out so many times, and to the same people over and over. maddening.

People moving their Jet-pack models 12' inches in the movement phase.

I played an Eldar guy on the weekend who moved his Warp Spiders 12', insisting they are both Jet & Jump Infantry. I play Eldar as my primary army, and quickly whipped my codex & rulebook out and showed him that they can move 6' as walking, or 2d6+6 using their packs.

 CrownAxe wrote:
That the Aegis Defense Line works on TLoS like everything else

It baffles me how many times people claim that standing within 2" of it gives you its cover save

Weirdly enough, that was one of the many rules mistakes that made me abandon a gaming group. Seriously, I even had the rulebook out in front of me, and I explained how cover worked, but I still got outvoted, and only things within 2" of the ADL were allowed the 4+ save (while things further back got a 5+ save for being obscured).

I swear this group just played a mishmash of rules from 4th, 5th, and 6th edition, because some of the things that they would pull out were just bizarre.

 Locclo wrote:

 CrownAxe wrote:
That the Aegis Defense Line works on TLoS like everything else

It baffles me how many times people claim that standing within 2" of it gives you its cover save

Weirdly enough, that was one of the many rules mistakes that made me abandon a gaming group. Seriously, I even had the rulebook out in front of me, and I explained how cover worked, but I still got outvoted, and only things within 2" of the ADL were allowed the 4+ save (while things further back got a 5+ save for being obscured).

I swear this group just played a mishmash of rules from 4th, 5th, and 6th edition, because some of the things that they would pull out were just bizarre.

To be fair though, cover has terrible rules and the Aegis makes that situation worse. Maybe they just house ruled it?

This is partly why I've been enjoying video games for a while. The rules don't change because of a disagreement or misunderstanding of how an ability or buff or stat works. My Shaman's Haste rating didn't make her move faster because I misunderstood how Haste worked at first.

Davor wrote:I don't think it applies to 6th anymore but in 5th, when rolling to see who goes first, and the first roll is a tie, and you roll again, and it's still a tie, the game is over.

insaniak wrote:That would technically still apply. The rules specifically forbid you from re-rolling anything more than once.

Both of these rules are on pg. 5, I find it funny that they contradict each other so early in the book. "...no single dice can be re-rolled more than once, regardless of the source of the re-roll." and then "If the players roll the same result, both dice must be re-rolled until one player is the winner." lol

Needing to re-roll more than once also comes up in other places, such as rolling for psyker powers. You aren't allowed to have the same power twice, and have to re-roll until you get a different one. Roll it twice and the game breaks.

I thought the roll to go first was a roll again? not a reroll, therefore not breaking the "no rerolling rerolls" rule.

nosferatu1001 wrote:
I thought the roll to go first was a roll again? not a reroll,...

If you roll again... you are re-rolling.

Not precisely. The rules specifically cover the term "reroll". If you are rolling again, you are ignoring the first roll entirely.

There is a slight semantic difference between the two.

You can also argue that it's a case of general vs specific. Prohibiting "all re-rolls" is a fairly wide scope, but re-rerolling until someone wins first turn is a fairly specific instance of permission that overrules the "all re-rerolls" thing.

 insaniak wrote:

nosferatu1001 wrote:
I thought the roll to go first was a roll again? not a reroll,...

If you roll again... you are re-rolling.

This.

Davor wrote:
I don't think it applies to 6th anymore but in 5th, when rolling to see who goes first, and the first roll is a tie, and you roll again, and it's still a tie, the game is over.

If the re-roll fails too, call a new game and keep going until:
a. you get bored,
b. someone wins the roll.
If only 1 re-roll can happen per game, just play again. It'll lead to lots of handshaking, but you get to play eventually.

Night fighting: We usually forget to roll at all, and when we do, forget about it by turn 5 anyway.
Grenades: 1 model per shooting unit gets forgotten, unless it's haywire.
Fear: Never happens. We always forget that too.
Init when charging: Since assaults only really happen to vehicles, I doesn't come up much.
Cover and 2": most of us started at 5th and later, so the 2" rule only exist as a distant memory.

I find that people look at me funny when I explain that since a second source of pinning caused a wound on a unit they must make ANOTHER pinning check since it was from a seperate unit's fire.

Davor wrote:
I don't think it applies to 6th anymore but in 5th, when rolling to see who goes first, and the first roll is a tie, and you roll again, and it's still a tie, the game is over.

Haha! I like that interpretation ^^

 Farseer Faenyin wrote:
I find that people look at me funny when I explain that since a second source of pinning caused a wound on a unit they must make ANOTHER pinning check since it was from a seperate unit's fire.

I actually had this one confused, glad you brought it up. I was treating pinning tests the same as the moral tests for losing more than 25% (one test made at the end of that phase).

Terrain, terrain, terrain, and cover saves. Half the fellas in my 25+ member group think that if it's not the open table top, it's 4+ area terrain. It gets frustrating explaining it every game.

We rarely bother with the terrain setup rules. However, in this case it's not a bug, it's a feature!

My gaming group never play Mysterious Objectives.
I almost always forget about my Warlord trait.

For a group that uses an unusually high amount of sniper rifles, we ALWAYS forget about pinning tests.
Forgetting about Fear happens to me too. Doesn't help that I play overwhelmingly against various flavors of Space Marines, so it doesn't come up often.
It takes the most experienced members of our gaming group to remember to roll for night fighting.
We don't use the Warp Storm table most of the time for Daemons, but this is more of a personal preference than getting the rule wrong.
We know about all the scenarios and objectives, but half the time we just toss them aside and fight to annihilation.
Every alliance is an Alliance of Convenience.
We have, knowingly and deliberately, ignored the allies chart to let Daemons fight alongside Grey Knights.

Because some men don't care about tournaments or RAW. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

- FMCs and Flyers are subject to the same line of sight and cover rules as any other unit
- Flyers have firing arcs
- Having two shots from Rapid Fire does not reduce the weapon's range when it comes to wound allocation
- Ordnance and Barrage are separate things
- Template weapons cannot allocate wounds out of line of sight, even if they're Torrent
- Template weapons and blasts that aren't Barrage follow the same wound allocation rules as normal shooting attacks
- You need line of sight to declare a charge
- You do not need line of sight to complete a charge
- Pretty much any time you need to use random allocation
- Scoring vehicles are not automatically denial units
- An army must have a warlord to be a legal list
- Your warlord must be from your primary detachment
- Your warlord must be a character

You're like 98% right PrinceRaven but only because of two things:
Codex Inquisition lets the Inquisitor be the Warlord even if he's not in the Primary Detachment (it's mentioned under the Warlord traits section how an Inquisitor can be your Warlord of he's in the Inquisitorial detachment....which makes sense fluff wise but mucks with the rules).
Codex Supplement Iyanden lets you use a Wraithlord or Wraithknight as your Warlord and neither are characters.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
You're like 98% right PrinceRaven but only because of two things:
Codex Inquisition lets the Inquisitor be the Warlord even if he's not in the Primary Detachment (it's mentioned under the Warlord traits section how an Inquisitor can be your Warlord of he's in the Inquisitorial detachment....which makes sense fluff wise but mucks with the rules).
Codex Supplement Iyanden lets you use a Wraithlord or Wraithknight as your Warlord and neither are characters.

A Wraithlord is a character.

Neither are HQ slots though, which would also disqualify them normally.

Chrysis wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
You're like 98% right PrinceRaven but only because of two things:
Codex Inquisition lets the Inquisitor be the Warlord even if he's not in the Primary Detachment (it's mentioned under the Warlord traits section how an Inquisitor can be your Warlord of he's in the Inquisitorial detachment....which makes sense fluff wise but mucks with the rules).
Codex Supplement Iyanden lets you use a Wraithlord or Wraithknight as your Warlord and neither are characters.

A Wraithlord is a character.

Neither are HQ slots though, which would also disqualify them normally.

Well I was half right then, as a Wraightknight isn't a character.

I forgot they "upgraded" the Wraithlord to character status though.