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Inkubas wrote: I, for one, like this new direction. I can't wait to buy a $60 CAD Commissar codex to go with the new $47 CAD commissar model.
If anything, they're charging far, far too little. I mean, I still have money in my pockets to buy the $30 CAD dataslate to field my Commissar in 1 unit formations.
Well, they could always go down the X-Wing route, where you need to have a "Hot Shot Lasgun"-Upgrade card for every Hot Shot Lasgun in your army (cause having the rules just once doesn't cut it). Naturally, said upgrade card will be sold in the box for the Tyranid Carnifex, cause selling it with Guard-Miniatures wouldn't make it fun enough.
Big deal. Playing Imperials vs Imperials is to be expected and otherwise, well, they're the definitive major faction of the universe.
I expect that very few people are actually going to try run a singular Militarum Tempestus army, most people will just take them as allies/in their IG.
I'm already set for a MT army actually. Just have to finish building my three Valkyries, get the book next week and 3 Scion/Command Squad boxes.
I'm getting 3 of the boxes to build Command Squads for my primarily Kasrkin force. I'm sitting on 56 of the metal bastards...but of those, no Sergeants. I have 36 generic Kasrkin Hellrifle armed models(bought them from a local hobby shop as it was going out of business, they had 12 blisters of the Hellrifle armed guys and I nabbed them for $90 all told.), then the remaining 20 are Plasma Guns/Meltaguns.
So the only thing I'm really lacking? Sergeants and a general idea as to the squad compositions I'm going for.
happygolucky wrote: Yeah after reading the rules in the WD, I'm not a fan due to they have taken out the hot-shot lasgun meaning that you have to buy it as an upgrade and points for squad also did not change again..
Read it again.
The hot-shot lasgun that you have to buy is a special weapon called the "Volley Hot-Shot Lasgun".
I only had a skim as the Guard vet in our FLGS showed me, so I could be wrong..
Tempestus Scions come with Hot-shot Lasguns as standard. Tempestors(sergeants) come with CCWs/Hot-shot Laspistols as standard.
Hot-shot Volley Gun is the upgradable special weapon.
Fair do's may have to buy a few and build a cool looking Kill-team out of them then
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Still priced at far too much if all you want is one of the squad options, either command or normal.
"By this point I'm convinced 100% that every single race in the 40k universe have somehow tapped into the ork ability to just have their tech work because they think it should."
Inkubas wrote: I, for one, like this new direction. I can't wait to buy a $60 CAD Commissar codex to go with the new $47 CAD commissar model.
If anything, they're charging far, far too little. I mean, I still have money in my pockets to buy the $30 CAD dataslate to field my Commissar in 1 unit formations.
Well, they could always go down the X-Wing route, where you need to have a "Hot Shot Lasgun"-Upgrade card for every Hot Shot Lasgun in your army (cause having the rules just once doesn't cut it). Naturally, said upgrade card will be sold in the box for the Tyranid Carnifex, cause selling it with Guard-Miniatures wouldn't make it fun enough.
Battlescribe is a thing, i dont know any x-wing players that demand you have all the cards, just that you know what the card does and the free battlescribe gives you all the rules so there is zero need to buy a model just for the card.
To be off topic- I agree. I have a single version of the card on the sideboard for reference, and small tokens I put on each ship card to denote who has what equipment ability card.
"By this point I'm convinced 100% that every single race in the 40k universe have somehow tapped into the ork ability to just have their tech work because they think it should."
AegisGrimm wrote: To be off topic- I agree. I have a single version of the card on the sideboard for reference, and small tokens I put on each ship card to denote who has what equipment ability card.
Sure. I just use Excel-Sheets. Even if I have the cards. It's just a lot quicker to find what I need.
Doesn't make the efforts of FFG to enforce that kind of sillyness to milk players for money any less ludicrous.
Proxies are not allowed during tournament play. Each player must use only the components included in
official X-Wing products. Each ship must have the official ship base, official Ship and Upgrade cards,
and the correct, official ship model.
It's not the pace that bothers me, its what they choose to put out. They're making suppliments for factions that we don't care about or don't need them instead of upgrading the factions that people actually play already and still need them. Orks desperately need an update for example and SOB dex is STILL digital only.
That's what's ticking me off, their lack of care about what gets updated. I like the pace though, just wish they made stuff I actually wanted to buy.
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The knight codex is stupid, no matter how small a codex any 'army' with a model count that low and 0 variety should not have codex. The new guard codex should be welcomed though in all it's glory. A mechanicum codex would have been a welcome addition and could have found a natural home for the knights. More armies more choice, let's not knock extra armies but make the army lists and choices reasonably good not based on one admittedly lovely model.
It's not the pace that bothers me, its what they choose to put out. They're making suppliments for factions that we don't care about or don't need them instead of upgrading the factions that people actually play already and still need them. Orks desperately need an update for example and SOB dex is STILL digital only.
That's what's ticking me off, their lack of care about what gets updated. I like the pace though, just wish they made stuff I actually wanted to buy.
Exactly. This new codex is a pure money grab, for two boxed sets that could have been released alongside a new Guard Codex with a couple of new entries therein. At the end of the day, Scions are just a rename of Stormtroopers, even with some extra equipment added.
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"By this point I'm convinced 100% that every single race in the 40k universe have somehow tapped into the ork ability to just have their tech work because they think it should."
It's not the pace that bothers me, its what they choose to put out. They're making suppliments for factions that we don't care about or don't need them instead of upgrading the factions that people actually play already and still need them. Orks desperately need an update for example and SOB dex is STILL digital only.
That's what's ticking me off, their lack of care about what gets updated. I like the pace though, just wish they made stuff I actually wanted to buy.
Exactly. This new codex is a pure money grab, for two boxed sets that could have been released alongside a new Guard Codex with a couple of new entries therein. At the end of the day, Scions are just a rename of Stormtroopers, even with some extra equipment added.
Than don't grab it.
The Scions ARE being released alongside a new Guard Codex. If there is an optional book that allows people who are not interested in the full Guard Codex, which is filled with dozens of boring, rather un-40K faux-historical units and entries, to play the Scions as is, than that is a fun extra option. No Imperial Guard players were hurt in the process.
Or they could have spent the same time instead updating codex books that are idiotically out of date compared to the mainstays.
"By this point I'm convinced 100% that every single race in the 40k universe have somehow tapped into the ork ability to just have their tech work because they think it should."
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"By this point I'm convinced 100% that every single race in the 40k universe have somehow tapped into the ork ability to just have their tech work because they think it should."
It's not the pace that bothers me, its what they choose to put out. They're making suppliments for factions that we don't care about or don't need them instead of upgrading the factions that people actually play already and still need them. Orks desperately need an update for example and SOB dex is STILL digital only.
That's what's ticking me off, their lack of care about what gets updated. I like the pace though, just wish they made stuff I actually wanted to buy.
Exactly. This new codex is a pure money grab, for two boxed sets that could have been released alongside a new Guard Codex with a couple of new entries therein. At the end of the day, Scions are just a rename of Stormtroopers, even with some extra equipment added.
You so know that everything every business does is basically some attempt at a money grab right? There are a lot of valid criticisms of GW and what they're doing but I never think "they're trying to make money" is one of them.
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"By this point I'm convinced 100% that every single race in the 40k universe have somehow tapped into the ork ability to just have their tech work because they think it should."
Damn, can't find the Tyranid band now. Warriors playing guitars and drums.
Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.
Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?
Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong".
Night Lords (40k): 3500pts
Klan Zaw Klan: 4000pts
I can probably afford a fourth box from all those damn berets!
