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 Iron_Captain wrote:

 Psienesis wrote:
They're not and they are.

The reason they're there is to amp up the feminine look of the Sister, as a way for the Ecclesiarchy to show off the fact that they are adhering to the Decree Passive.

The problem is that 'boobplates' would be a terrible idea for armour. Not only is it a unnecessary, but it would in fact be extremely dangerous for the wearer. The purpose of armour is to deflect blows. Those two breasts on the armour could guide an incoming blow straight towards the center of your breastbone. Instant death. http://www.tor.com/blogs/2013/05/boob-plate-armor-would-kill-you

Aside from that, I think that boobplates are ugly and sexist. I much prefer hot girls in practical armour instead

Except there is a lot of armor on that collar bone, and the uneven surface should be effective against lasbolts and shells. Works for tanks after all.
As I said, I doubt that boob plate is anywhere near the body.
Besides, when has practicality ever stopped the IoM? Putting unnecessary stuff on their soldiers is kind of their MO.

I mean, do titans really need cathedrals? Do starships really need monuments? Do space marines really need rolls of toilet pa- I mean "purity seals" dangling from them?

 Iron_Captain wrote:
The problem is that 'boobplates' would be a terrible idea for armour.

Well, it falls in the same category as the aerodynamics for AA/AS vehicles .

Eldar and Dark Eldar

I don't like them, I don't like their looks or fluff or anything else about either one specifically the Dark Elder (in other words the masturbatory material of a particularly creepy 15 year old).. I also hate elves in fiction pretty much universally (Jarlaxle from the Drizzt series being a notable exception)

 BrotherHaraldus wrote:

 Psienesis wrote:
They're not and they are.

The reason they're there is to amp up the feminine look of the Sister, as a way for the Ecclesiarchy to show off the fact that they are adhering to the Decree Passive.

You have a source on that?

My not-inconsiderable familiarity with female anatomy specifically, especially when compared to the depicted bulk of their armor, even the older-style "corset plate".

But the Sisters of Battle are not universally H-cupped models. There's also the fact that, lacking a Black Carapace, have to wear a "neural interface suit" (think bodyglove, with a bunch of hook-up points on it) in order to make their PA move. That bodyglove keeps everything all nice and snug and in place, while they layer the armor on over it (and you can see it in some SoB art, it's the black bodyglove thing that you can see at their hips and such, under the greaves and cuisse). This being, basically, a skin-tight spandex sort of material, I've heard it described as "kevlon", which is, I assume, a portmanteau of Kevlar and nylon, but Im not sure if that is an in-universe term or something from another source, to keep your various bits together and encased in your Power Armor shell, and to maximize comfort (Sisters still drill to get used to "living" inside their armor for long periods of time).

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 BrotherHaraldus wrote:
Their armour is too form-fitting overall to look like it protects decently well. It just looks thin, and the implications that it would offer equal protection to the bulkier SM armour just seem implausible.

It depends on the model/illustration. For instance, that looks bulky enough to me :

Spoiler:

I tend to like it more when the armors are drawn as bulky too.

 Troike wrote:

 Blackhair Duckshape wrote:
Sisters of Battle.

They're completely ineffectual and die in droves. Such a waste of power armour.

Nah. The whole "dying in droves" thing is just a common misconception. Probably due to the Bloodtide fluff getting so much attention. There's actually plenty of fluff where they're plenty effective and win some significant battles.

Trollbait ?

Not necessarily. Like I said, it is a common misconception. I used to believe it myself before I started properly learning about SoB lore.

 BrotherHaraldus wrote:
*Spots boobplate*

*Cringes*

Personally, I think the "boobplate" fits in with their aesthetic as a whole. Over the top and ornamental/old fashioned. I wouldn't mind the boobplate going, but what I'd want in its place is something that fit in with that aesthetic just as well. Maybe some sorty of knightly chestplate with lots of decoration? If you were to change it, what would you replace it with?

 BrotherHaraldus wrote:
This is why I wanted SoB termies.

Nah, too Space Marine. Let's have Celestian knights instead.

 Troike wrote:

Personally, I think the "boobplate" fits in with their aesthetic as a whole. Over the top and ornamental/old fashioned. I wouldn't mind the boobplate going, but what I'd want in its place is something that fit in with that aesthetic just as well. Maybe some sorty of knightly chestplate with lots of decoration? If you were to change it, what would you replace it with?

You answered your own question.

 BrotherHaraldus wrote:

 Troike wrote:

Personally, I think the "boobplate" fits in with their aesthetic as a whole. Over the top and ornamental/old fashioned. I wouldn't mind the boobplate going, but what I'd want in its place is something that fit in with that aesthetic just as well. Maybe some sorty of knightly chestplate with lots of decoration? If you were to change it, what would you replace it with?

You answered your own question.

Wow, we agree on something about the Sisters, for once.

It'd go very well with their space sallet, come to think of it.

 Themanwiththeplan wrote:


That sounds very narrow minded of you. I guess you think we all drink tiffin at four, or hang around on street corners drinking and mugging old ladies. You need to wise up and gain some prospective before you throw around comments like that.

No but I have seen enough british "tourists" durning the world cup and every weekend in my city and in Prague. Midless destruction , being unable to drink and still trying , pissing where ever they stand , stealing stuff , speaking with an ununderstadable dialect close to what orkish sounds when read, aggresive when drunk , aggresive when not being able to get drunk fast enough , My uncle has to replace parts of his beer garden every two weeks , because english tourists find it funny to not go through the exist like every normal person .

Makumba wrote:
No but I have seen enough british "tourists" durning the world cup and every weekend in my city and in Prague. Midless destruction , being unable to drink and still trying , pissing where ever they stand , stealing stuff , speaking with an ununderstadable dialect close to what orkish sounds when read, aggresive when drunk , aggresive when not being able to get drunk fast enough , My uncle has to replace parts of his beer garden every two weeks , because english tourists find it funny to not go through the exist like every normal person .

Is that not what every hooligan do ? I would rather blame it on soccer and soccer hooligans than on British people.

Makumba wrote:

 Themanwiththeplan wrote:


That sounds very narrow minded of you. I guess you think we all drink tiffin at four, or hang around on street corners drinking and mugging old ladies. You need to wise up and gain some prospective before you throw around comments like that.

No but I have seen enough british "tourists" durning the world cup and every weekend in my city and in Prague. Midless destruction , being unable to drink and still trying , pissing where ever they stand , stealing stuff , speaking with an ununderstadable dialect close to what orkish sounds when read, aggresive when drunk , aggresive when not being able to get drunk fast enough , My uncle has to replace parts of his beer garden every two weeks , because english tourists find it funny to not go through the exist like every normal person .

Even the British know they're bad tourists, but I wouldn't base my perceptions of an entire people off idiots on a "lads holiday"

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

Makumba wrote:
No but I have seen enough british "tourists" durning the world cup and every weekend in my city and in Prague. Midless destruction , being unable to drink and still trying , pissing where ever they stand , stealing stuff , speaking with an ununderstadable dialect close to what orkish sounds when read, aggresive when drunk , aggresive when not being able to get drunk fast enough , My uncle has to replace parts of his beer garden every two weeks , because english tourists find it funny to not go through the exist like every normal person .

Is that not what every hooligan do ? I would rather blame it on soccer and soccer hooligans than on British people.

British hooligans do have quite a bad reputation however. Much more so than hooligans from other countries. Here in the Netherlands, I have never heard of German or French hooligans causing trouble on international games. British hooligans however; are definitely living up to their reputation.
Contrary to this horrible reputation however, I find the British to be very friendly and polite when in their own country. It almost seems like the British have some kind of 'switch' that turns as soon as they cross the border

 Iron_Captain wrote:
Here in the Netherlands, I have never heard of German or French hooligans causing trouble on international games.

Well, come to Paris, we have some nice groups of violent neo-nazis supporters for the local soccer club .

 Da krimson barun wrote:

 poppa G wrote:
They look dumb, sound dumb, their technology is sub-par. How have they not been killed off yet?? They're the equivalent of cavemen. Whenever I hear their illiteracy I want to wipe them off the face of the universe.

WE HAS ARRIVED AND IT IZ NOW DAT WE DOES WHAT DA BOSS SAID TO DO.
IN F...FEA...IN FEALTY TO DA BOSSGODS AND DA GRACE OF DA SHINY GUBBINZ,
I DECLARE DIS GIT ORKZTERMINATUS.
I HEREBY EXPLODE WUN UNORKATIC AND CON...CON..CONSIGN HIS SOUL TO EXPLODY DEFF.
MAY GORK AND MORK ACCOUNT IN ALL DAKKA.
DA BOSSGODS PROTECT.

I hate you hahah

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

Is that not what every hooligan do ? I would rather blame it on soccer and soccer hooligans than on British people.

Because they aren't football hooligans . Euro was a one off even and they have been acting the same way every week for the last 6 years . Those are always different people and they act the same when visiting other cities and because police picks up the stuff they leave around , I know that they aren't just unemployed people , but offten people with well paid jobs . They just have no culture and don't know how to behave in public.

British hooligans however; are definitely living up to their reputation.
Contrary to this horrible reputation however, I find the British to be very friendly and polite when in their own country.

Let me check the last few months . People from my country had stones thrown at their homes , because they are catholics and they seem either not to care or be unable to see the difference . My aunts daughter was beaten and had her cloths cut , because she didn't knew some song and didn't want to kiss the british flag and Police reaction to this , was that she proveked them , she was 15 stoped by 17+ man, by steping on the flag. And the steping happned because one pushed her on the flag and she lost her footing and the one holding the flag droped it .
I had been to many countries, Germany , Norway , Italy . Lived there for 3-4 months , but we were never treated like we are in UK.

Look Makumba, I'm sorry to hear that they've been a dick in your country, but that still isn't how us Brits are as a whole. I could well say the same about the Polish who go round the town on the Saturday night with the Lativians, and other Eastern europeans who do exactly the same as what you've said (I'm a barman). But that's just it, it's not all the eastern europeans in the town doing it, and its not all the Brits who's doing that either when coming to your country. Try not to tar us all with the same brush, and I'l do the same with your countrymen.

I really hate Ultramarines the most. Their Primarch grew up in a perfect world, became the perfect leader of his people, then was found by the IoM and they made him the leader of the most perfect Legion, which was so perfect that they got to dictate how everyone that didn't switch sides during the hersey has to act. Every single one is the most awesome at whatever he does, be it being a Librarian, tank commander or whatever. Not to mention that they were the only one that saw the good in the tau and decided to virusbomb them to oblivion like the thousands of other species before them. And they also sparkle in sunlight and their bolters shoot randows and unicorns. Their absolute flawlessness makes me want to puke.

Either way, I've got a new signature

 Themanwiththeplan wrote:
Look Makumba, I'm sorry to hear that they've been a dick in your country, but that still isn't how us Brits are as a whole. I could well say the same about the Polish who go round the town on the Saturday night with the Lativians, and other Eastern europeans who do exactly the same as what you've said (I'm a barman). But that's just it, it's not all the eastern europeans in the town doing it, and its not all the Brits who's doing that either when coming to your country. Try not to tar us all with the same brush, and I'l do the same with your countrymen.

Realy you have seen people from eastern europ Piss on the wall of a protestand cathedral or you have seen them attack protestants , because they are protestants and get the full support of police and goverment ?
The only nationality that acts close to how brits act are Russians , but at least they don't try to pretend that they are on some sort of moral highground.

 Jidmah wrote:
I really hate Ultramarines the most. Their Primarch grew up in a perfect world, became the perfect leader of his people, then was found by the IoM and they made him the leader of the most perfect Legion, which was so perfect that they got to dictate how everyone that didn't switch sides during the hersey has to act. Every single one is the most awesome at whatever he does, be it being a Librarian, tank commander or whatever. Not to mention that they were the only one that saw the good in the tau and decided to virusbomb them to oblivion like the thousands of other species before them. And they also sparkle in sunlight and their bolters shoot randows and unicorns. Their absolute flawlessness makes me want to puke.

Either way, I've got a new signature

Haters gonna hate.

Space elves of course, I hate regular elves already but in space nobody can hear your emo poem.

I like Tau's fluff in the sense that they're kinda naive little blue guys who just want to be everybody's friend for the greater good, but they have a darker side by which they accomplish this.

THAT SAID

I flat out refuse to play against Tau unless it's been at least a week since I last played against them. I like to run fun, fluffy armies and even Tau's equivalent of "fun and fluffy" still murders me every time, I have never even won a game against casual Tau. So yeah, there's some bitterness as far as the tabletop goes. Fluffwise they're alright.

Imperial Knights are stupid for a million reasons and the only faction I truly dislike, GW axe them pls.

 poppa G wrote:

I hate you hahah

IT IS HUMIE NATURE TO CRY LIKE GROTZ AND SEEK...CUL..CULPA...CULPABILITY IN TIMES OF WAAAAAGH.
IT IS A SIGN OF PANZYNESS TO CRY LIKE GROTZ ABOUT BEING KRUMPED.
INEVITORKILY MANY GITZ WILL FALL UPON DA CHOPPA DAT KRUMPED DIS GIT, DA ORKO WIERDSTUFF.
BUT DA ORKQUISITION MERELY DOES WAT MORK SEZ.
TO FEAR DEM IS FER PANZYS, TO HATE DEM UNORKY.
THOSE MORE ORKY WILL PLACE RES..RES..RESPONSIBILITY WITH DA GITZ THAT FORCED DA HAND OF DA ORKQUISISHUN.
WITH SOME DAKKA, DEY MAY FOSTER DIS HATRED INTO ORKINESS, AND RULE DER OWN WAAGH BY KRUMPING INTO GORKS SERVICE.
YET ORKTIMATLEY IT WAS I WHO SET THESE WAAAAGHS IN MOTION WITH A SINGLE BLOW FROM MY CHOPPA, GITSPLITTA.

Exalted.

Ultramarines. We're all perfect, we're better than very other race, etc, etc. How can people not like wolves Ok some of their models are slightly ott but I reckon that most marine players hate them cos they've got better troops and better devestators!

Gork and Mork wrote:
We're all perfect, we're better than very other race, etc, etc. How can people not like wolves

The first sentence is a big part of the answer to the second sentence.

Oh dear! I like orks, play space marines & i'm english!
Dare I post?
Yea lets risk it

My hate goes towards, non ip or vanilla sm imperail armies. Yes I play sm (DIY chapter ) and yes there are way too many sm players. Why is that? Because there are too many sm armies and gw pour love all over them! New edition and within weeks we have new sm codex, new sw codex, new ba codex, new da codex etc etc. Come on! Give chaos and some xeno armies some bigging up. My chapter are supposed to be gene-forged warriors shielding humanity from the darkness! So give the other races fair slices of the cake so more people play them, so my chapter is fighting the TRUE enermies of mankind. Not just other sm chapters. Imagination doesn't flair and get excited in marine vs marine battles. Bring on the orks, tau, nids, deamons and of coarse our traitor brothers.
Cleanse & burn our fallen kinsman brothers!!

I hate the Grey Knights. I hate their hyperbolic, over the top 'we're marines but we're the best marines' awful background, over the top rules and terrible, terrible mary-sue characters who can punch through whole Desolator battleships or juggle bloodthirsters whilst composing sonnets about how amazing the Grey Knights are. They just read like a home made chapter some excitable 10 year old dreamed up. 'they're all psykers, they have terminators like everyone else but also ultrapowerful special terminators and they can beat any of the other marines up all day long!!!!'... yeah.

I hate how their terminators come with added terminators, they have ghosts and they can travel in time and space and live in the warp and beat up primarch-daemons.

I hate seeing hastily, lazily sprayed silver armies of them. I hate everything about them and about any time I see a 'noncodex marine army that has all the benefits of the codex marine army and then all the bells and whistles of being a 'special' marine army and pays little to no penalties to balance them up.

Terrible fanboy indulgence.

I originally liked the Grey Knights in Realm of Chaos, I feel they would have made excellent detachments in larger 'Inquisitorial' armies or as attached to other imperium forces. As a stand alone army they are the honed epitome of everything I somewhat dislike about marines in general, condensed into a pure diamond of arsey, superiority-complexed but hollow army.

Makumba wrote:
[bizarre anti-British rant

Not the right thread or forum for this. Do shush...

Gork and Mork wrote:
Ultramarines. We're all perfect, we're better than very other race, etc, etc. How can people not like wolves Ok some of their models are slightly ott but I reckon that most marine players hate them cos they've got better troops and better devestators!

"We're rebels! Yeah! We don't follow no rules! We don't have no Warp sucking librarians! We got Rune Priests who use planet power! We got special names all up in this bitch! But we are also the most loyal perfect Space Marines out there! We are the wildest but the most tactically adept! We got a real attitude and are totally rocking! "

That and their *ahem* fascination with wolves.

Slaanesh just rubs me the wrong way (Irony, i play Eldar). But seriously, all the Chaos gods are cool. And then there's Slaanesh.... He/She/It's the 'unique' one of the group.

Slaanesh just rubs me the wrong way

They say that going against the grain is sometimes a new experience and can heighten one's enjoyment.

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