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Is anyone else more nervous over the fact that Escalation + Stronghold Assault in the Main Rule Book will add an extra 75-100 bucks to the cost... I don't see it happening just because they already have those books in print. Whats next, adding Supplements to main Codexes for a Super Deluxe Edition?

And darn... I knew I shoulda printed out those FAQS when I had the chance. What does this do to Vector Strikes?
   
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 Nightlord1987 wrote:
. What does this do to Vector Strikes?


What does this do to EVERYTHING? I mean when someone questions a rule, you can't go back to the FAQ/Errata that changes anything. You can only go buy what is in front of you now.

More debates now. I wonder if this is GW trolling us now.

Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.

Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?

Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong".  
   
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 Nightlord1987 wrote:
Is anyone else more nervous over the fact that Escalation + Stronghold Assault in the Main Rule Book will add an extra 75-100 bucks to the cost... I don't see it happening just because they already have those books in print. Whats next, adding Supplements to main Codexes for a Super Deluxe Edition?

And darn... I knew I shoulda printed out those FAQS when I had the chance. What does this do to Vector Strikes?
I'm putting together an archive atm.
You'll still be able to print them. : D

   
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 Nightlord1987 wrote:
Is anyone else more nervous over the fact that Escalation + Stronghold Assault in the Main Rule Book will add an extra 75-100 bucks to the cost... I don't see it happening just because they already have those books in print. Whats next, adding Supplements to main Codexes for a Super Deluxe Edition?

And darn... I knew I shoulda printed out those FAQS when I had the chance. What does this do to Vector Strikes?


If they put the rules for superheavies and all the updated building/fortification rules in the BRB, but leave things like the fortification networks and actual lords of war out, they integrate the rules without invalidating the SA or Escalation books.
   
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 Nightlord1987 wrote:
Is anyone else more nervous over the fact that Escalation + Stronghold Assault in the Main Rule Book will add an extra 75-100 bucks to the cost... I don't see it happening just because they already have those books in print. Whats next, adding Supplements to main Codexes for a Super Deluxe Edition?


Yes, and in the future the winner of a game of 40k will be the person with the more exclusive version of the codex, which they will use to bludgeon their opponent.

"I'm not much for prejudice, I prefer to judge people by whats inside, and how much fun it is to get to those insides." - Unknown Haemonculi 
   
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Raleigh, NC

FOLKS! The results are in for Peregrine's January Poll "What will GW cut next? Rd II"

And it looks like FAQs was the winner!! Further reinforcing the GW policy of "if we can't sell it, you can't have it!"
   
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I am sure GW is trolling us. "lets not put out the FAQ today and see what happens"

And as usual us grown up men got our knickers in a knot. We fell for it.

Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.

Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?

Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong".  
   
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Raleigh, NC

 Ovion wrote:
I already phoned Customer Service.

FAQs are gone.
They might be back at some point.


We fell for what exactly, Davon?

I mean, sure, they could bring the FAQs back, but I am not sure where they would put them anymore, since those parts of the website were cut out. And how, *exactly*, does trolling us help them sell more models?

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OK

Don't worry guys, FAQs will be back as digital downloads. They will offer you the opportunity to pay to fix their typos.



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On the Internet

 viewfinder wrote:
ClockworkZion wrote:
Thud wrote:
I know about that one, but that wasn't it. From his phrasing, I got the distinct feeling that the email address he gave me was actually read by a real person.

Huh. Well if you find it again I'd love to get a copy. I've got a proposed errata for Allies I'd love to get in front of someone's eyes.


you know, this is sad. if these were critical medical supplies, I could see the wailing and gnashing of teeth.

but they aren't. they are toy soldiers.

do you people have nothing better to do than whine constantly? I can onpy imagine what it is like to play or even socialize with some of you! get a life!

Whoa there. I am not wailing or gnashing my teeth, I just want the game to be the best it can be for everyone is all.
   
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 viewfinder wrote:
ClockworkZion wrote:
Thud wrote:
I know about that one, but that wasn't it. From his phrasing, I got the distinct feeling that the email address he gave me was actually read by a real person.

Huh. Well if you find it again I'd love to get a copy. I've got a proposed errata for Allies I'd love to get in front of someone's eyes.


you know, this is sad. if these were critical medical supplies, I could see the wailing and gnashing of teeth.

but they aren't. they are toy soldiers.

do you people have nothing better to do than whine constantly? I can onpy imagine what it is like to play or even socialize with some of you! get a life!


Do you have nothing better to do than whine about people whining about toy soldiers? Sounds like you are one step down the rung
   
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on the forum. Obviously

Davor wrote:
I am sure GW is trolling us. "lets not put out the FAQ today and see what happens"

And as usual us grown up men got our knickers in a knot. We fell for it.


Maybe this is their April's fools?
I did not see them do an April's Fools article this year.

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Peace through power!

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 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Davor wrote:
I am sure GW is trolling us. "lets not put out the FAQ today and see what happens"

And as usual us grown up men got our knickers in a knot. We fell for it.


Maybe this is their April's fools?
I did not see them do an April's Fools article this year.


It was a painting guide for Bilbo wearing the one ring,
   
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Don't worry. I'm sure FAQ/errata will return as a hardcover book (and digital book or maybe just digital), maybe included as part of 6.5/7th edition - then GW can release new FAQ/errata books to include the ones needed for recent releases since almost everything GW releases needs FAQ/errata. It will be another cash cow - people will grumble and lash out, a few will walk away, but as long as piles still buy it - another GW win!
   
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on the forum. Obviously

 shamikebab wrote:
 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Davor wrote:
I am sure GW is trolling us. "lets not put out the FAQ today and see what happens"

And as usual us grown up men got our knickers in a knot. We fell for it.


Maybe this is their April's fools?
I did not see them do an April's Fools article this year.


It was a painting guide for Bilbo wearing the one ring,


Hah, was it! can't believe I missed that. Do you have a link?

What I have
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~1660

Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!

A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble

 
   
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 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
 shamikebab wrote:
 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Davor wrote:
I am sure GW is trolling us. "lets not put out the FAQ today and see what happens"

And as usual us grown up men got our knickers in a knot. We fell for it.


Maybe this is their April's fools?
I did not see them do an April's Fools article this year.


It was a painting guide for Bilbo wearing the one ring,


Hah, was it! can't believe I missed that. Do you have a link?


I believe it was on the website that has just been deleted
   
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on the forum. Obviously

So it disappeared...Just like Bilbo!
Best April's Fools ever!

What I have
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~1660

Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!

A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble

 
   
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On the Internet

 shamikebab wrote:
 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
 shamikebab wrote:
 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Davor wrote:
I am sure GW is trolling us. "lets not put out the FAQ today and see what happens"

And as usual us grown up men got our knickers in a knot. We fell for it.


Maybe this is their April's fools?
I did not see them do an April's Fools article this year.


It was a painting guide for Bilbo wearing the one ring,


Hah, was it! can't believe I missed that. Do you have a link?


I believe it was on the website that has just been deleted

Nope, it was on the Black Libarary blog: http://www.blacklibrary.com/new-at-bl/revolutionary-painting-guide_.html

GW Ditigal editions does a blog post over there every Tuesday....which was also the 1st of the month.

EDIT: I remembered wrong, that was a Stealth Suit painting guide there. Ah well, same joke either way.

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Ah excellent, it's still around


Automatically Appended Next Post:
I'm thinking of Tale of Painter's April Fools. I knew they were similar, they did Bilbo. It's much better as well! http://taleofpainters.blogspot.fr/2014/04/tutorial-how-to-paint-bilbo-wearing-one.html

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on the forum. Obviously

 ClockworkZion wrote:
 shamikebab wrote:
 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
 shamikebab wrote:
 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Davor wrote:
I am sure GW is trolling us. "lets not put out the FAQ today and see what happens"

And as usual us grown up men got our knickers in a knot. We fell for it.


Maybe this is their April's fools?
I did not see them do an April's Fools article this year.


It was a painting guide for Bilbo wearing the one ring,


Hah, was it! can't believe I missed that. Do you have a link?


I believe it was on the website that has just been deleted

Nope, it was on the Black Libarary blog: http://www.blacklibrary.com/new-at-bl/revolutionary-painting-guide_.html

GW Ditigal editions does a blog post over there every Tuesday....which was also the 1st of the month.

EDIT: I remembered wrong, that was a Stealth Suit painting guide there. Ah well, same joke either way.


Brilliant.
I always love GW's april's fools jokes.
Like that one time where they had a guide on rolling dice

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~1660

Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!

A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble

 
   
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Raleigh, NC

Black Library wrote: How to Paint Citadel Miniatures: Stealth Suits (Stealth Mode Enabled) is easily the most revolutionary guide we've ever created. {...}

Read some first hand testimony from genuine fictitious customers:

'This is the best guide ever, it's almost like the stealth suit isn't even there!'

'My painting has improved no end since I got this guide. I really feel like I've seen a visible improvement in my technique.'

'Is this some kind of joke?'


Glad Black Library has a nice sense of humor.
   
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 shamikebab wrote:
 viewfinder wrote:
ClockworkZion wrote:
Thud wrote:
I know about that one, but that wasn't it. From his phrasing, I got the distinct feeling that the email address he gave me was actually read by a real person.

Huh. Well if you find it again I'd love to get a copy. I've got a proposed errata for Allies I'd love to get in front of someone's eyes.


you know, this is sad. if these were critical medical supplies, I could see the wailing and gnashing of teeth.

but they aren't. they are toy soldiers.

do you people have nothing better to do than whine constantly? I can onpy imagine what it is like to play or even socialize with some of you! get a life!


Do you have nothing better to do than whine about people whining about toy soldiers? Sounds like you are one step down the rung


considering there is even a thread about all the GW hate, no, it's not one rung down...

between this and three other threads, all it is about is whining that GW sucks. If it sucks so bad, find another game! or is it more fun to not play at all, give them your money, and then complain about it? my god, you'd think this was an abusive relationship from the looks of it.

you automatically lose points for using the trite gamer-isms: balanced, meta, Mat Ward, etc. 
   
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 viewfinder wrote:
ClockworkZion wrote:
Thud wrote:
I know about that one, but that wasn't it. From his phrasing, I got the distinct feeling that the email address he gave me was actually read by a real person.
Huh. Well if you find it again I'd love to get a copy. I've got a proposed errata for Allies I'd love to get in front of someone's eyes.
you know, this is sad. if these were critical medical supplies, I could see the wailing and gnashing of teeth.

but they aren't. they are toy soldiers.

do you people have nothing better to do than whine constantly? I can onpy imagine what it is like to play or even socialize with some of you! get a life!
A quick check of your post history tells me you play Dark Angels.
For you this change (no FAQs changes), means:
Dark Angels:
Spoiler:
The Courage of the Lion Warlord Trait now adds 1D6 to psychic tests within 12" of your warlord.
Techmarines no longer have Boltguns.
Primary detachment or not, Azrael has to be your Warlord now.
Stasis Anomaly and Vast Stasis Anomaly can now reduce a units WS and I to 0. (Can't attack in CC at all)
Vast Stasis Anomaly affects entire units, not just models.
I think that the Power Field Generator now extends from the Hull of vehicles again.
Asmodai no longer has a Bolt Pistol.
Azrael no longer has a Bolt Pistol.
Belial no longer has an Iron Halo.
Deathwing Command Squad Company Champion no longer limited to one-per-army.
Ravenwing Command Squad may not take additional Black Knights.
Ravenwing Command Squad may take a Relic Banner instead of a Sacred Standard.
Company Veterans may only replace Boltgun with Chainsword.
Company Veterans are now limited to 3 models able to take Storm Bolter/Combi-Weapon/Power Weapon/Lightning Claw/Plasma Pistol/Power Fist/Pair of Lightning Claws.
Deathwing Terminator Sergents can now take Lightning Claws or a Thunder Hammer and Storm Shield.
Black Knight Ravenwing Huntmaster may now take any Power Weapon, not just a Power Sword.
Ravenwing Darkshoud gains Stealth.
Nephilim Jetfighter gains Missile Lock.
Land Raiders must now be used as a Dedicated Transport to take the Deathwing Vehicle upgrade.

Several weapons entries are incomplete, but at least they have it in the summary.


Overall, removing FAQs and the Errata therein, is a pretty big deal, and the general response from GW of 'oh, they might be back' is irritating.
There are some pretty BIG changes here.

   
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 Midnightdeathblade wrote:
Think of a daemon incursion like a fart you don't quite trust... you could either toot a little puff of air, bellow a great effluvium, or utterly sh*t your pants and cry as it floods down your leg.



 
   
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Raleigh, NC

 viewfinder wrote:
 shamikebab wrote:
 viewfinder wrote:
ClockworkZion wrote:
Thud wrote:
I know about that one, but that wasn't it. From his phrasing, I got the distinct feeling that the email address he gave me was actually read by a real person.

Huh. Well if you find it again I'd love to get a copy. I've got a proposed errata for Allies I'd love to get in front of someone's eyes.


you know, this is sad. if these were critical medical supplies, I could see the wailing and gnashing of teeth.

but they aren't. they are toy soldiers.

do you people have nothing better to do than whine constantly? I can onpy imagine what it is like to play or even socialize with some of you! get a life!


Do you have nothing better to do than whine about people whining about toy soldiers? Sounds like you are one step down the rung


considering there is even a thread about all the GW hate, no, it's not one rung down...

between this and three other threads, all it is about is whining that GW sucks. If it sucks so bad, find another game! or is it more fun to not play at all, give them your money, and then complain about it? my god, you'd think this was an abusive relationship from the looks of it.


So there can't be different threads about different issues? Also, do simple factual statements like "FAQs are gone" or "the price of Gazgul Thraka has increased to $40" qualify as complaining?

Because this thread is (mostly) about the fact that FAQs have been removed from GW's website. Until the other day, there were FAQs, but now for whatever reason, they have been removed from GW entirely.

I guess I could just get up and sell all of my models now and never grace the 40k forums again, since that seems be the only option you are giving me.

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 viewfinder wrote:


between this and three other threads, all it is about is whining that GW sucks. If it sucks so bad, find another game! or is it more fun to not play at all, give them your money, and then complain about it? my god, you'd think this was an abusive relationship from the looks of it.


Welcome to Shamikebab's official guide to forums!!!

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 viewfinder wrote:
considering there is even a thread about all the GW hate, no, it's not one rung down...

between this and three other threads, all it is about is whining that GW sucks. If it sucks so bad, find another game! or is it more fun to not play at all, give them your money, and then complain about it? my god, you'd think this was an abusive relationship from the looks of it.

If you're going to gripe about people's griping can you at least bother to use proper capitalization? Christ, you're not 5 years old anymore. There is just no excuse.

The complainer complaining about complaints, aside we'll have to just play the "wait and see" game to see if FAQs come back I suppose.
   
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Wait a minute...

The FAQs are gone...

That means until the new Codex Drops Leman Russ tanks have Lumbering Behemoth again! And Heldrakes don't have 360 degrees fire anymore! Sing a song, everyone!

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 TheCustomLime wrote:
Wait a minute...

The FAQs are gone...

That means until the new Codex Drops Leman Russ tanks have Lumbering Behemoth again! And Heldrakes don't have 360 degrees fire anymore! Sing a song, everyone!

Codex: Missile Drones wants to talk to you though.
   
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 ClockworkZion wrote:
 viewfinder wrote:
considering there is even a thread about all the GW hate, no, it's not one rung down...

between this and three other threads, all it is about is whining that GW sucks. If it sucks so bad, find another game! or is it more fun to not play at all, give them your money, and then complain about it? my god, you'd think this was an abusive relationship from the looks of it.

If you're going to gripe about people's griping can you at least bother to use proper capitalization? Christ, you're not 5 years old anymore. There is just no excuse.

The complainer complaining about complaints, aside we'll have to just play the "wait and see" game to see if FAQs come back I suppose.


wow... a whole paragraph complaining that I don't capitalize... sorry, I hate touchscreens.

and yes, this thread is pointless and has been flagged because all we have to do is wait. so many people on here are so eager to pull the trigger on anything GW does. they could.halve the price of everything and people would still whine.

you automatically lose points for using the trite gamer-isms: balanced, meta, Mat Ward, etc. 
   
 
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