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http://daemons40k.blogspot.com/2014/04/battle-report-imperial-knights.html

Hi there, Dakka! I made this battle report. Since everyone's Do's and Don'ts from the whine about batreps thread were contradictory, I hope you'll all be pissed off by some aspect of it. I have also added a spoiler here for people who don't like the spoiler thing.

Interesting report. I'm still on the fense about Knights as a primary army. If I counted correct, he had 2 Knights and 1 Scout Squad which could score. Even with Big Guns, I don't think he had any Heavy Support as Formations don't even take up slots. It works for some, but I personally need more scoring/denial units at 1850 points.

Other than experimenting to see how it would work, I think the Outflanking maneuver was a bit 'meh'. Their shooting is ok, but their assault can be crippling, especially when multiples are running up the table together.

I personally don't agree with the additional movement for the Knights at this particular point. The rules are actually in place, but they make little sense to many players and worked differently in 5th edition. For all I know, GW intentionally slowed them down moving in terrain. Obviously, it was not game breaking, but I would not be surprised if folks do come up with a mean IK style army and the big focus of it is their speed and assault capability.

Thanks for posting the report.

 Sarigar wrote:
Interesting report. I'm still on the fense about Knights as a primary army. If I counted correct, he had 2 Knights and 1 Scout Squad which could score. Even with Big Guns, I don't think he had any Heavy Support as Formations don't even take up slots. It works for some, but I personally need more scoring/denial units at 1850 points.

Other than experimenting to see how it would work, I think the Outflanking maneuver was a bit 'meh'. Their shooting is ok, but their assault can be crippling, especially when multiples are running up the table together.

I personally don't agree with the additional movement for the Knights at this particular point. The rules are actually in place, but they make little sense to many players and worked differently in 5th edition. For all I know, GW intentionally slowed them down moving in terrain. Obviously, it was not game breaking, but I would not be surprised if folks do come up with a mean IK style army and the big focus of it is their speed and assault capability.

Thanks for posting the report.

I agree with you, but Reece and Frontline Gaming are in charge of 40k. Plus it's no big deal.


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Oh and all Knights are scoring units in a primary detachment. He had as many scoring units as I did. Technically the Storm Raven is scoring in big guns because it counts as HS even if it's in a formation, but since its hull can't get within 3" of an objective, it can't score anyway.

Well, the base of the model can get within 3" so it can score, Also while in primary knights can score but not deny so if 1 gribbly walks up to an objective with a knight on it, the gribbly gets the objective.

 Arbiter wrote:
Well, the base of the model can get within 3" so it can score, Also while in primary knights can score but not deny so if 1 gribbly walks up to an objective with a knight on it, the gribbly gets the objective.

No, sir. The base of the flyer is used for assault and disembarking only. All other measurements are from the hull like any other vehicle.

Your second point is correct and in fact happened in this very game.

I shall base my flyers 2,99" from the ground then.

Or do what I do ... put objectives on a second level of a ruin or higher.

I've seen that house-ruled as illegal, since it can mean a bike army auto-looses.

No such thing as auto-lose. Get first blood and kill their troops. Besides, you would also be placing objectives.


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And placing an objective on a 2nd floor does not put it out of reach of a biker unit?

Great game, Slaede.

IK's add some nice variety to the game, but they are nowhere near OP. They do, however, help to keep some deathstar builds honest and that is a good thing.

 Silverthorne wrote:
I've seen that house-ruled as illegal, since it can mean a bike army auto-looses.

Why?

A bike army can still claim/contest objectives on the 2nd floor....or just blow away the opponent' scoring units.