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 LordofHats wrote:

 loki old fart wrote:
Stick frazz on the border, that'll feth em

We can't do that, the Weiner Legion is a WMD. It's inhumane

If you have enough queso... he'd do it for free!

 LordofHats wrote:

 loki old fart wrote:
Stick frazz on the border, that'll feth em

We can't do that, the Weiner Legion is a WMD. It's inhumane

Of course you are all missing the obvious.
Annex Mexico, make them all US citizens. Cheap labor, smaller border to patrol, you might even get a decent soccer team out of it.

Is it sad that we'd probably have better spent all the money we put into Iraq and Afghanistan nation building Mexico? I have a sinking feeling that would have turned out a lot better for us

 LordofHats wrote:
Is it sad that we'd probably have better spent all the money we put into Iraq and Afghanistan nation building Mexico? I have a sinking feeling that would have turned out a lot better for us

This has to be one of the most insightful things I've seen on dakka.

 LordofHats wrote:
Is it sad that we'd probably have better spent all the money we put into Iraq and Afghanistan nation building Mexico? I have a sinking feeling that would have turned out a lot better for us

You got no complaints with me on that.... I still think it's in our best interest still is to do something like that. Not sure how we can do it with stepping on toes though... they're our neighbor afterall.

 LordofHats wrote:

 whembly wrote:

As to your comment about the border is "too long to police". Bull. fething. gak.

The US Mexican Border is 2000 miles long. The coast line that can be used to get into the country is five times that.

The border cannot be secured. It's a pipe dream.

It can be but it requires Will. After the first dirty bomb that goes off that will will appear instantaneously. I fear that will happen sooner than later (unless we get out of the ME of course).


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 LordofHats wrote:

 loki old fart wrote:
Stick frazz on the border, that'll feth em

We can't do that, the Weiner Legion is a WMD. It's inhumane

On the positive, the Wiener Legions are natural mine layers.


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 loki old fart wrote:

 LordofHats wrote:

 loki old fart wrote:
Stick frazz on the border, that'll feth em

We can't do that, the Weiner Legion is a WMD. It's inhumane

Of course you are all missing the obvious.
Annex Mexico, make them all US citizens. Cheap labor, smaller border to patrol, you might even get a decent soccer team out of it.

I and others have suggested this. One quarter of Mexico's population is here now (seriously not joking), so why not?

Bundy OFL (Occupy Federal land). If OWS can get away with breaking all sorts of Fed, State, Sanitation, City, Ordinance, and/or rules with no ramification. Why not Bundy

Matty back

 Jihadin wrote:
Bundy OFL (Occupy Federal land). If OWS can get away with breaking all sorts of Fed, State, Sanitation, City, Ordinance, and/or rules with no ramification. Why not Bundy

Matty back

So far, he has gotten away with breaking all kinds of laws. Both him and his supporters.

 Jihadin wrote:
Bundy OFL (Occupy Federal land). If OWS can get away with breaking all sorts of Fed, State, Sanitation, City, Ordinance, and/or rules with no ramification. Why not Bundy

Matty back

Not to mention leave clean ups around of the multi million dollar level.

I'm starting to think there be a "Double Standards" on protests here

 Jihadin wrote:
I'm starting to think there be a "Double Standards" on protests here

There are. OWS gets pepper sprayed and treated like criminals whereas this guy is actually a criminal and gets treated like a hero.

Wait. Didn't someone get tazed? A pregnant woman was forced roughly downed? Or we forgetting that part?

 Jihadin wrote:
Wait. Didn't someone get tazed? A pregnant woman was forced roughly downed? Or we forgetting that part?

I haven't seen the video of the woman so I can't speak to that, but I certainly saw the video of the man get tazed, after he parked an ATV in front of a truck, kicked a police dog, and was charging the officers who were telling him to halt. He didn't even get arrested despite that fact that legally, they probably could have shot him to death.

Are we really going to do this thing where we pretend we don't see the stuff that undermines our arguments?


This thread is truly one of the most amazing threads I've ever seen on Dakka. Literally 15 pages of "yeah, what he did was illegal, but".

When your supporters are comparing a wealthy rancher/freeloader/deadbeat to Rosa Parks, and the BLM to nazis, it's a pretty good sign your posse is a bunch of donkey-caves.

At least Rosa Parks paid for her ticket.

Ouze. You know better about me. I need the video to dissect it like all others.

The ATV parking/ is at around 53 seconds, and the dog kicking and charging is at 1:05.

If this is the video the pregnant woman gets knocked down in, I don't see it - there is a woman screaming she's pregnant at around 1:25 but I don't see anyone touch her. I'm not saying it did - or didn't - happen, just that I didn't see it.

1:00 Think we both agree Joe Billy Bob is the driver of the ATV that's a bit wedged. The LEO is being hardcore and keeping distance to get homie to move it
1:03 Watch/hear the Handler give a visual and verbal command to aggress
1:05 Joe Billy Bob does the kick
up to 1:08 Joe Billy Bob is kicking back the dog and got Tazed by the LEO that want him to move the ATV

Dog Handler at fault he triggers the Taze incident

See the one LEO driver side of truck just keeping calm? Talking? Hell he knew camera's were out lol

Hold one. Their all Rangers? Not Army Rangers but Park Rangers? PARK RANGERS!!!!! JEBUS HEBUS SAVUS their F'ing PARK RANGERS!!!!

I did not see Barb get thrown down so I cannot claim 110% she got thrown down...11 kids though...tough ole Betty

 Jihadin wrote:
1:00 Think we both agree Joe Billy Bob is the driver of the ATV that's a bit wedged. The LEO is being hardcore and keeping distance to get homie to move it
1:03 Watch/hear the Handler give a visual and verbal command to aggress
1:05 Joe Billy Bob does the kick
up to 1:08 Joe Billy Bob is kicking back the dog and got Tazed by the LEO that want him to move the ATV

Dog Handler at fault he triggers the Taze incident

See the one LEO driver side of truck just keeping calm? Talking? Hell he knew camera's were out lol

Hold one. Their all Rangers? Not Army Rangers but Park Rangers? PARK RANGERS!!!!! JEBUS HEBUS SAVUS their F'ing PARK RANGERS!!!!

I did not see Barb get thrown down so I cannot claim 110% she got thrown down...11 kids though...tough ole Betty

Here ya go for the throw down:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ5AzjQF6Kw

This happened just before that dog got kicked.

Its the same Ranger that Tazed Joe Billy Snuffy that threw Barb down.

The throw down seems excessive, yes.

At least Rosa Parks paid for her ticket.

That's because Rosa Parks was a damn classy lady.

In my experience, even when right, an angry mob doesn't have much class

 Ouze wrote:
The throw down seems excessive, yes.

Excessive, but understandable given that the officer was surrounded by an angry, likely armed, mob that was clearly behaving in a threatening manner.

 Ouze wrote:

If this is the video the pregnant woman gets knocked down in, I don't see it - there is a woman screaming she's pregnant at around 1:25 but I don't see anyone touch her. I'm not saying it did - or didn't - happen, just that I didn't see it.

Did I hear her correctly? Her argument was "Don't you threaten a woman. I'm pregnant, so you let that guy go!"?

Truthfully, the fact that a pregnant woman would put herself in a position where an aggressive confrontation is likely to take place is grossly irresponsible. I assume she later smoked a pack of cigarettes and downed a liter of Jack, may as well go for the trifecta.

We've only got her claim that she is pregnant. She doesn't look pregnant, just fat.

Anyway, I don't see how any of this affects the core point that there has been a legal process going on for 21 years, which Bundy has lost.

 Ouze wrote:

 Jihadin wrote:
Wait. Didn't someone get tazed? A pregnant woman was forced roughly downed? Or we forgetting that part?

I haven't seen the video of the woman so I can't speak to that, but I certainly saw the video of the man get tazed, after he parked an ATV in front of a truck, kicked a police dog, and was charging the officers who were telling him to halt. He didn't even get arrested despite that fact that legally, they probably could have shot him to death.

Are we really going to do this thing where we pretend we don't see the stuff that undermines our arguments?


This thread is truly one of the most amazing threads I've ever seen on Dakka. Literally 15 pages of "yeah, what he did was illegal, but".

When your supporters are comparing a wealthy rancher/freeloader/deadbeat to Rosa Parks, and the BLM to nazis, it's a pretty good sign your posse is a bunch of donkey-caves.

At least Rosa Parks paid for her ticket.

Being English I don't know about Rosie Parks. But I was just following orders has never been a defense.

 loki old fart wrote:

 Ouze wrote:

 Jihadin wrote:
Wait. Didn't someone get tazed? A pregnant woman was forced roughly downed? Or we forgetting that part?

I haven't seen the video of the woman so I can't speak to that, but I certainly saw the video of the man get tazed, after he parked an ATV in front of a truck, kicked a police dog, and was charging the officers who were telling him to halt. He didn't even get arrested despite that fact that legally, they probably could have shot him to death.

Are we really going to do this thing where we pretend we don't see the stuff that undermines our arguments?


This thread is truly one of the most amazing threads I've ever seen on Dakka. Literally 15 pages of "yeah, what he did was illegal, but".

When your supporters are comparing a wealthy rancher/freeloader/deadbeat to Rosa Parks, and the BLM to nazis, it's a pretty good sign your posse is a bunch of donkey-caves.

At least Rosa Parks paid for her ticket.

Being English I don't know about Rosie Parks. But I was just following orders has never been a defense.

Rosa Parks sat at the front of a bus when black people were only allowed to sit at the back. This lead to black people boycotting the buses in Montgomery, Alabama. She became an icon and hero of the civil rights movements in the USA.

 dogma wrote:

 Ouze wrote:
The throw down seems excessive, yes.

Excessive, but understandable given that the officer was surrounded by an angry, likely armed, mob that was clearly behaving in a threatening manner.

 Ouze wrote:

If this is the video the pregnant woman gets knocked down in, I don't see it - there is a woman screaming she's pregnant at around 1:25 but I don't see anyone touch her. I'm not saying it did - or didn't - happen, just that I didn't see it.

Did I hear her correctly? Her argument was "Don't you threaten a woman. I'm pregnant, so you let that guy go!"?

Truthfully, the fact that a pregnant woman would put herself in a position where an aggressive confrontation is likely to take place is grossly irresponsible. I assume she later smoked a pack of cigarettes and downed a liter of Jack, may as well go for the trifecta.

I am assuming you were also supportive of the police beating up OWS protestors.

 Jihadin wrote:
Wait. Didn't someone get tazed? A pregnant woman was forced roughly downed? Or we forgetting that part?

They kicked a dog. Frazzeled would have maced all of them and then deported them Uzbeckistan. But he's a mean bitter bitter man.


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 Ouze wrote:

 Jihadin wrote:
Wait. Didn't someone get tazed? A pregnant woman was forced roughly downed? Or we forgetting that part?

I haven't seen the video of the woman so I can't speak to that, but I certainly saw the video of the man get tazed, after he parked an ATV in front of a truck, kicked a police dog, and was charging the officers who were telling him to halt. He didn't even get arrested despite that fact that legally, they probably could have shot him to death.

Are we really going to do this thing where we pretend we don't see the stuff that undermines our arguments?


This thread is truly one of the most amazing threads I've ever seen on Dakka. Literally 15 pages of "yeah, what he did was illegal, but".

When your supporters are comparing a wealthy rancher/freeloader/deadbeat to Rosa Parks, and the BLM to nazis, it's a pretty good sign your posse is a bunch of donkey-caves.

At least Rosa Parks paid for her ticket.

We disagree much but on this you're 100% spot on. You should see the more right wing boards. I don't get it at all...

 LordofHats wrote:
Is it sad that we'd probably have better spent all the money we put into Iraq and Afghanistan nation building Mexico? I have a sinking feeling that would have turned out a lot better for us

Or building a fence

 Ahtman wrote:

 Jihadin wrote:
I'm starting to think there be a "Double Standards" on protests here

There are. OWS gets pepper sprayed and treated like criminals whereas this guy is actually a criminal and gets treated like a hero.

Maybe because OWS were criminals? Three reported deaths and four reported rapes arent enough? Not to mention willful destruction of property (both private and public), public indecency, and a whole host of safety and health violations?


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 Frazzled wrote:

 Jihadin wrote:
Wait. Didn't someone get tazed? A pregnant woman was forced roughly downed? Or we forgetting that part?

They kicked a dog. Frazzeled would have maced all of them and then deported them Uzbeckistan. But he's a mean bitter bitter man.


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 Ouze wrote:

 Jihadin wrote:
Wait. Didn't someone get tazed? A pregnant woman was forced roughly downed? Or we forgetting that part?

I haven't seen the video of the woman so I can't speak to that, but I certainly saw the video of the man get tazed, after he parked an ATV in front of a truck, kicked a police dog, and was charging the officers who were telling him to halt. He didn't even get arrested despite that fact that legally, they probably could have shot him to death.

Are we really going to do this thing where we pretend we don't see the stuff that undermines our arguments?


This thread is truly one of the most amazing threads I've ever seen on Dakka. Literally 15 pages of "yeah, what he did was illegal, but".

When your supporters are comparing a wealthy rancher/freeloader/deadbeat to Rosa Parks, and the BLM to nazis, it's a pretty good sign your posse is a bunch of donkey-caves.

At least Rosa Parks paid for her ticket.

We disagree much but on this you're 100% spot on. You should see the more right wing boards. I don't get it at all...

Define a right-wing board for us frazzled. The boards I frequent are heavily Libertarian and Constitutionalist and call for smaller government, I dont see the hate mongering you alude to.

Townhall.com There are almost no libertarians or old school conservatives, just nutjobs that think the Tea Party are commies who want to watch the government burn.
A few gun boards which are otherwise awesome but in the bowels of the OT (ironic that) the militia guys occasionally rise up.

 Frazzled wrote:

 mr_bruno wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:
Some places should never be fought for. Chernobyl, the Sahara Desert, New Mexico, Hobokken. Nevada?

Hey now, Texan, learn your history. Your state has yet to successfully defeat mine throughout your lackluster invasion history.

This is true. New Mexico has the advantage of being a true deathworld. Even Texans die off there.

I rememebr the expense between Texas and Artesia. Miles and miles of rolling empty with buzzards. It was...otherworldly. I just knew that if the car broke down we were going to die.

New Mexico, the only land Aussie killer drop bears fear to tread.

I humbly accept your amusing comparison of a Tallarn-Catachan hybrid deathworld. It made me chuckle because, for a Texan, you're actually pretty spot on. You silly neighbors, you!

On topic, however, this BLM revolutionary stuff is getting out of hand. I've witnessed a few members of my small farming community literally saddle up horses and gas up the trucks to make an epic, albeit odd, armed crusade to Nevada.