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I mean, if they'd arrested Bundy and rounded up all his cattle back when this started, instead using restraint and other such sissy nonsense, we clearly wouldn't be here now.
I hope your not like the other idiot who said they should shoot them all.
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Its hard to be awesome, when your playing with little plastic men. Welcome to Fantasy 40k
If you think your important, in the great scheme of things. Do the water test.
Put your hands in a bucket of warm water,
then pull them out fast. The size of the hole shows how important you are.
I think we should roll some dice, to see if we should roll some dice, To decide if all this dice rolling is good for the game.
d-usa wrote: The 900+ public health risk feral cattle are his fault.
The feral cattle were the fault of anybody who had cattle roaming free on that land. Do you think cattle check each others brands before mating.
You know Utah, the people who you claim are the proof that the BLM screwed up?
The reason they gave for not wanting Bundy's cattle, the one with his Brand and that he raised, are because he has neglected them to such an extend that they are for all purposes feral cattle.
Not because other people had cattle there. Not because cattle mated. All because he is such a crappy rancher that his cattle can never be sold, according to the people that you are listening to.
loki old fart wrote: I hope your not like the other idiot who said they should shoot them all.
If you can't sell them then that is your only option really.
loki old fart wrote: Bundy and the BLM should have sorted it out20yrs ago agreed.
Don't be ridiculous. That was sarcasm.
I hope your not like the other idiot who said they should shoot them all.
If you read through everything, that's pretty much all that will happen (that or they die of age). Utah has blackballed Bundy. None of those cows will ever be sold. If they continue to be allowed to trespass on public land where other cows, managed by people who aren't bad at what they do, then they're a public health hazard and need to be disposed of. Even accepting BLM stumbled in its handling of the situation, it doesn't absolve Bundy of being a total feth up at life.
Honestly, at this point the only way to not get it that this entire thing is Bundy's fault is to be in willful ignorance.
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d-usa wrote: The 900+ public health risk feral cattle are his fault.
The feral cattle were the fault of anybody who had cattle roaming free on that land. Do you think cattle check each others brands before mating.
You know Utah, the people who you claim are the proof that the BLM screwed up?
The reason they gave for not wanting Bundy's cattle, the one with his Brand and that he raised, are because he has neglected them to such an extend that they are for all purposes feral cattle.
Not because other people had cattle there. Not because cattle mated. All because he is such a crappy rancher that his cattle can never be sold, according to the people that you are listening to.
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loki old fart wrote: I hope your not like the other idiot who said they should shoot them all.
If you can't sell them then that is your only option really.
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Down with BLM!
loki shrugs don't care no dog in this fight.
Lot's of opinion for somebody that doesn't care
Your allowing that because you don't like the guy. It must be all his fault. Because I don't care, I'm looking at it from all sides.
Its hard to be awesome, when your playing with little plastic men. Welcome to Fantasy 40k
If you think your important, in the great scheme of things. Do the water test.
Put your hands in a bucket of warm water,
then pull them out fast. The size of the hole shows how important you are.
I think we should roll some dice, to see if we should roll some dice, To decide if all this dice rolling is good for the game.
Your allowing that because you don't like the guy. It must be all his fault. Because I don't care, I'm looking at it from all sides.
I've posted plenty of evidence, and even showed that the evidence posted by his supporters don't match up what they claim.
You've not posted a single piece of evidence other than "well, I think they messed up" and "there are unspoken reasons, but I know that they are there and they are all the non-existing evidence that I need".
If the BLM screwed up and tried to ship cattle against regulations then you should be able to link us to some sources that show them loading them up and transporting them, being turned around after transporting them, official statements of "the BLM did not follow regulations so we had to turn the cattle down", or anything else to that regard.
The only proof we have is "they are a risk because they have been so neglected that they feral cattle and cannot be sold" statements from Utah.
Your allowing that because you don't like the guy.
People tend not to garner affection doing what Bundy does.
It must be all his fault.
That's because it is.
Because I don't care, I'm looking at it from all sides.
You say that, but somehow I'm unconvinced.
If he's right or wrong, time will tell. It won't be decided on an internet forum. Either way I won't be effected on this side of the Atlantic.
wether you believe me or not is irrelevant, what is is.
Its hard to be awesome, when your playing with little plastic men. Welcome to Fantasy 40k
If you think your important, in the great scheme of things. Do the water test.
Put your hands in a bucket of warm water,
then pull them out fast. The size of the hole shows how important you are.
I think we should roll some dice, to see if we should roll some dice, To decide if all this dice rolling is good for the game.
It's late here so I'll make this my last post.
All this is based on the premise "the law is never wrong" and they made a ruling.
No innocent person has ever been executed, But they have!
The law used to say black people were inferior to white people. It was wrong
The law used to say women couldn't vote(they weren't sensible enough) Well that was laid to rest
All this will sort it's self out in time. Goodnight all. 2:24am here, and this old fart needs his beauty sleep.
Its hard to be awesome, when your playing with little plastic men. Welcome to Fantasy 40k
If you think your important, in the great scheme of things. Do the water test.
Put your hands in a bucket of warm water,
then pull them out fast. The size of the hole shows how important you are.
I think we should roll some dice, to see if we should roll some dice, To decide if all this dice rolling is good for the game.
So, going against Bundy because he's been ruled as having broken the law is akin to disagreeing with women's suffrage and the civil rights movement/similar movements around the world?
Pull the other one.
Also that guy on the left looks like his outfit was lifted from the 70s/80s. He almost looks like something from Anchorman, all he needs is a moustache.
Also I didn't really see him get his ass handed to him, I saw her rambling and yelling, ignoring all questions and looking like a fool of an elected person. How hard is it to answer a question put to you buy a reporter, honestly.
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I wish I had time for all the game systems I own, let alone want to own...
It's late here so I'll make this my last post.
All this is based on the premise "the law is never wrong" and they made a ruling.
No innocent person has ever been executed, But they have!
The law used to say black people were inferior to white people. It was wrong
The law used to say women couldn't vote(they weren't sensible enough) Well that was laid to rest
All this will sort it's self out in time. Goodnight all. 2:24am here, and this old fart needs his beauty sleep.
Innocent until proven guilty. But once proven guilty, you are guilty until you can prove innocence. Bundy has had 20 years to prove that he had the right to be on that land and to prove that he did not need to follow the same health and safety laws as everyone else.
In a country of laws, when someone has been found guilty they are guilty. Otherwise we should just release everyone from prison because the court might have made a mistake. See how ridiculous that is?
The Laws of Thermodynamics:
1) You cannot win. 2) You cannot break even. 3) You cannot stop playing the game.
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If all these "you could never sell these cattle" arguments are true then Bundy looks even dumber for racking up fines and organizing an armed uprising for worthless cattle that he can never sell. What a horrible business model, raising cattle that can never be sold.
As this isn't about cattle, but a hatred of government, my guess is that Bundy deliberately damaged the cattle in order to create the discussion we're having.
If that's the case, then well played; if dickish.
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Life does not cease to be funny when people die any more than it ceases to be serious when people laugh.
Well. Reading the entire article Dogma it seems the State Political Parties removed themselves from the issue pretty much. They pretty much stepped to stop the sell over state lines to prevent a any far fetch/mythical/common sensewhatever disease spreading from cattle in their state to another state. Imagine the mayhem that would ensue if undocumented/non-vet seal of approval if like, mad cow, anthrax or something detrimental is released into Utah herds.
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Who's talking about executing? I don't even think Bundy's offenses were jail worthy just fine worthy (though, arguably owing the government money is worse than being sent to jail XD).
The law used to say black people were inferior to white people. It was wrong
If you think the current laws governing, paying for the use of property that is not your own, properly caring for the health of cattle who are turned into food, and getting punished for doing neither of the former are gave injustices against mankind, please, do go on.
The law used to say women couldn't vote(they weren't sensible enough) Well that was laid to rest
I guess Bundy would be more than please to learn people are comparing his plight to that of Jim Crow and Women's Rights.
Good luck getting anyone else to see through that line of absurdities.
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Jihadin wrote: Well. Reading the entire article Dogma it seems the State Political Parties removed themselves from the issue pretty much. They pretty much stepped to stop the sell over state lines to prevent a any far fetch/mythical/common sensewhatever disease spreading from cattle in their state to another state. Imagine the mayhem that would ensue if undocumented/non-vet seal of approval if like, mad cow, anthrax or something detrimental is released into Utah herds.
Jihadin wrote: Well. Reading the entire article Dogma it seems the State Political Parties removed themselves from the issue pretty much. They pretty much stepped to stop the sell over state lines to prevent a any far fetch/mythical/common sensewhatever disease spreading from cattle in their state to another state. Imagine the mayhem that would ensue if undocumented/non-vet seal of approval if like, mad cow, anthrax or something detrimental is released into Utah herds.
I didn't mention political parties at all.
Life does not cease to be funny when people die any more than it ceases to be serious when people laugh.
To comply with the order, would suggest you think the other side is possibly correct.
If you believe you are right, why would you comply.
The point I am trying to get at is do you think Bundy is right?
I refer the honorable member to the answer I gave earlier, I'm not saying he's right, but I think he believes he's right
For myself I don't know or care.
With all the arguments the BLM has going in other states. It will probably take another 20 yrs. before the truth become apparent.
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Its hard to be awesome, when your playing with little plastic men. Welcome to Fantasy 40k
If you think your important, in the great scheme of things. Do the water test.
Put your hands in a bucket of warm water,
then pull them out fast. The size of the hole shows how important you are.
I think we should roll some dice, to see if we should roll some dice, To decide if all this dice rolling is good for the game.
Proud Member of the Infidels of OIF/OEF
No longer defending the US Military or US Gov't. Just going to ""**feed into your fears**"" with Duffel Blog Did not fight my way up on top the food chain to become a Vegan...
Warning: Stupid Allergy
Once you pull the pin, Mr. Grenade is no longer your friend
DE 6700
Harlequin 2500
RIP Muhammad Ali.
Jihadin, Scorched Earth 791. Leader of the Pork Eating Crusader. Alpha
