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2014/04/21 23:09:32
Subject: Wood Elves in May (official teaser in first post)
Flashman wrote: It's a complete change of what Treemen are from my perspective. It's not so much walking tree anymore, more supernatural being with tree like qualities.
This isn't necessarily a bad thing and I'd be interested to see if the new fluff supports this design change.
but not something I'd want as a treeman with 2 arms, 2 legs and a head it's far too human for what I'd want from a living tree thing
(I get a huge elder avatar vibe from it more than anything else but I think that's the sword more than anything else)
I agree it's a bit too humanoid for my tastes, but otherwise there are some cool things going on with it... but much more "Eldar" than "Wood Elf" in some ways, as you say. Nice observation, wasn't sure how to characterize it mentally before that
2014/04/21 23:28:50
Subject: Re:Wood Elves in May (first pics in first post)
Trains_Get_Robbed over at Warseer wrote:I cannot divulge photos at this time, however the new Woodies look so ace!!!
Durthru [WS7 S6 T6 W6 A6] is a SC his rules are pretty solid he has single 2D6 shooting attack at S2 2D6 hits (the old Treeman shooting rule I'm assuming) or he can nominate a enemy single enemy model and force a I test if failed; D6 Wounds no AS. He's very well painted sword and is featured prominently on the cover.
A combo kit for Eternal Guard or whatever their name would be) -they look similar to all the new elf Shadowarrior/Sisters kits with their legs and armor -they have hoods on and halberds/scythes instead.
There's another SC that has the Stubborn Special Rule and 5 attacks as well as when he's a alone he is Unbreakable. He has some magic items that are niche but some are clinical as well. For Example his "shooting attack": at the start of your turn nominate a single enemy model within 18in', they take a S4 hit. If the wound is unsaved and the to wound roll was a 6 they lose -5 WS and I for the rest of the game.
Additionally Forest Spirit gives: +6 Ward Save, ITP, Magical shooting and close combat attacks.
All Woodies have ASF -confirmed.
(...)
Wild Rider kit is a dual kit what you mention above is seemingly true.
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but not something I'd want as a treeman with 2 arms, 2 legs and a head it's far too human for what I'd want from a living tree thing
(I get a huge elder avatar vibe from it more than anything else but I think that's the sword more than anything else)
Agreed. I can easily see an Eldar Exodite army using Durthu as a counts as Avatar with minimal conversion work.
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2014/04/21 23:50:11
Subject: Wood Elves in May (first pics in first post)
I quite like them to be honest, I hope they go alongside the current treemen and are a different sort, that would be the best of both worlds. Overall though, really nice looking models IMHO with a pretty exceptional paintjob and scheme.
I'm not very familiar with the reinvented White Dwarf so a question. If they are printing the Woof Elf rules in the magazine does that mean they will also be getting their own hard cover rulebook? Or simply a digital redo like they've done with the Sisters of Battle?
As for the Treeman I find his appearance confusing. Of course that is most likely because that paint scheme is all over the place. If he were painted a more universal brownish color it would most likely appear quite a bit more awesome.
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2014/04/22 00:11:46
Subject: Wood Elves in May (first pics in first post)
Ok, Now GW is just copying WoW.
I'm getting a strong Warcraft vibe from that thing.
Yup, looks totally like WoW's treants... Yup, JUST like them
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He said getting a "WoW vibe from them", not they look like them. The internal glow and palette for them is incredibly reminiscent of WoW treemen going from those images.
"Ok, Now GW is just copying WoW."
Direct quote, and first line in my post. Treants have been around long before WoW, and unless "tree colored" is specific to WoW (it's not), it makes no sense at all.
2014/04/22 00:14:50
Subject: Wood Elves in May (first pics in first post)
Quite like the new Treeman. Looks like it has borrowed a lot from the Dryads, which are my favorite Wood Elf models. I'm not a fan of the paint jobs though, much too busy and far too much color.
I still like the 3rd/4th edition treemen though (Marauder I think) although they would probably be best used as Treekin now as they are quite small compared to this new model.
2014/04/22 00:16:54
Subject: Re:Wood Elves in May (first pics in first post)
The new hero looks okay.
Took me a while but now I like Treeman and Ancient Treeman. Durthu looks silly though with sword and metal claws.
Treemen look more like thorn elementals than treeman though:
It;s finally happening! And it's beautiful! I personally never liked the old treeman, he looked far to dopey and dimwitted (he had his tongue out FFS!) but these guys look suitably more magic in aspect then a tree with a face. I don't care about the rules, no matter what, i WILL be picking up a Treeman. They are. Just. Too. Pritty.
2014/04/22 00:57:48
Subject: Wood Elves in May (first pics in first post)
"You're a shadow dancer, dancing for money, any ol music will do."
That's all I can think of seeing those pics.
I thought they would get away from the whole "we dance on poles" theme, but apparently not.
I miss my Dracha army...
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2014/04/22 00:58:30
Subject: Wood Elves in May (first pics in first post)
I have to admit, they're growing on me quite a bit. Particularly once I rotated the normal treeman pic to be upright. He's got some vines or something coming out of his hand on the left of the pic... pretty cool!
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2014/04/22 01:17:48
Subject: Wood Elves in May (first pics in first post)
Yeah, I really like that base level Treeman. The branch antlers are pretty great. I think this kit is pretty great, honestly. I'll be happy to see that across the table!
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2014/04/22 02:11:35
Subject: Wood Elves in May (first pics in first post)
I think that would probably look like a sword covered in branches, rather than a branch that is sharp enough to act as a sword, though. Still, you're right, Dryads are an amazing source for "wood elfing" many things
2014/04/22 02:58:15
Subject: Wood Elves in May (first pics in first post)
Excited to see the rest of the new stuff. I was never a huge fan of the old Treeman model and I think this one is great... but I'd personally go with a more uniform wood color as it looks a bit too busy as others have pointed out. I think it would look great with some leaves on as well using some of the model bush/tree foliage stuff I slap on bases. Be nice to see some new Treekin although that seems unlikely in the rumor mill.
2014/04/22 04:08:40
Subject: Wood Elves in May (first pics in first post)
Love love love the Treeman and Ancient. The forest spirits, Dryads and Treeman, are now some of my favorite in the game. Makes me want to pick up some Wood Elves. Maybe if the new edition adds allies it would make sense for my High Elves?
I think the Treeman would look a lot better if they didn't paint it so horridly. It's like they couldn't decide what they wanted to do with it. Yellows, browns, blues, orange, green; too many colors.
My first though was "A thorny Wraithknight." I'll like to see some better pics before I make a decision but so far I'm not impressed. That said, the old Treeman is also ugly as all hell.
Uriels_Flame wrote: "You're a shadow dancer, dancing for money, any ol music will do."
That's all I can think of seeing those pics.
I thought they would get away from the whole "we dance on poles" theme, but apparently not.
I miss my Dracha army...
That model is just an old one. I have an unpainted one kicking around somewhere.
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jah-joshua wrote: i'm all for the new look... i like that the Treeman looks dynamic, and scary... i hated the old Treeman...
new Hero is very cool... it better be plastic... it would be a good piece to paint for competition...
cheers jah
The old Treeman just looked terrible, there was no "man" to it and not really much "tree" either, it was just a pile of twisted branches.
The new one looks from the pictures like it's dancing which I don't like either. I just want something that looks like a giant lumbering tree dude, is that too much to ask? But we'll see, the pictures aren't great.
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2014/04/22 06:49:40
Subject: Re:Wood Elves in May (first pics in first post)
I like the new treemen, but I think I'm sticking to my original plans:
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2014/04/22 06:58:20
Subject: Wood Elves in May (first pics in first post)
jah-joshua wrote: i'm all for the new look...
i like that the Treeman looks dynamic, and scary...
i hated the old Treeman...
new Hero is very cool...
it better be plastic...
it would be a good piece to paint for competition...
cheers
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