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The treeman/spirit looks more like a chaos creation than a wood elf creation to me or is it secretly a Dark elf one?

that camera work on the 1st series of pictures is just great, I mean ... it looks like somebody stuck their greasy fingers all over the lens and then took a picture of "text" and highly detailed miniatures.. yeah... this is good for them.

Heard talk of a new unit called the sisters of the thorn coming after the next week

 cyphertheory wrote:
Heard talk of a new unit called the sisters of the thorn coming after the next week

Where'd you hear that?

 Tangent wrote:

 cyphertheory wrote:
Heard talk of a new unit called the sisters of the thorn coming after the next week

Where'd you hear that?

On the (grape)vine.

 TheFireDrake wrote:
What can i say, it’s about time. Models look cool. I believe that the pictures of all the new gw kits never do the models justice. Wait until you see the sprues.

Spruce?

Not read the rest of the thread but wood Elves use high and dark magic, but with unique WE lore attributes

Man people need to leave out all these puns, they're really making me pine for some intelligent discussion.

Leaf em be. They're all just feeling a bit Grovey

*gets coat

Some Better Treemen pics

So... when, exactly, did Guillarmo del Torro start working for Games Workshop?

Why does one have a ginger beard and why is Duruthu full of fire?

It's an interesting take but maybe a bit too far into 'wood elemental' type of thing. Much better than the previous excuse for an animated tree monster.

Love it! Time to bust out my Wood Elves!

Well those confirm my initial impression

Really nice new mini but far better suited to being an elder avatar than a Treeman

which is good and bad in equal measures

New pictures only reinforcing my initial opinion. Look nothing like a tree giant but more like anything out of 40k, Eldar stuff. Far too dynamic and frail, neither representing the model's lore nor its stat values. Poor execution. Call in the proxies!

You're all bark-ing up the wrong tree(man).

This is about a strong aesthetic, this is about recognizable IP and removing the ability of 3rd parties to produce models to accompany them without clearly stepping into their 'look' and leafing themselves open to legal recourse.

I personally like the models well enough. I think what's letting them down rather strongly is the paint jobs with all the bright blues, oranges etc instead of going for muted greens and browns, which would make these models look far better imo.

I also think Raging Heroes (not) Treekin will be a great accompany to these and the Dryads.

 RandyMcStab wrote:
Man people need to leave out all these puns, they're really making me pine for some intelligent discussion.

Yea, I wood rather just discuss the products. This discussion is going way out on a limb.

So, Stag Riders and Eternal Guard/Wild Wood Rangers coming up for preorder soon?

Guess how Wood Elves and the treeman are called in the German armybook?
Wood Elves and treeman! No translation at all! Even the armybook has an English name. How lazy is that!

BTW this trend started with Astra Miltarum, where all units have the English names untranslated.

Kolbalt266 wrote:
Some Better Treemen pics

I really like this new look. It makes them less "animated trees" and more "forest spirits".

I also like that one of the Treemen(the one with the staff) might be implying that Treemen can be spellcasters.

I'm not a fan of the new Treeman look. An uprooted version of this would be much more my style.

Yeah, that's where I'm at, Alex. These are sweet 40k Eldar models, though as Orlando says.

MGS, I agree about the Raging Heroes "treekin", I think they'll see a significant increase in sales since they match this look much better than the GW treekin.

Looks like I have a new model for my Avatar of Khaine!

Thanks for the better pics. Hopefully some awesome painter will use some more muted tones and change my opinion on the Treedar.

Yeah, I agree with the general (but not unanimous) sentiment above in that the treeman looks off. He just doesn't look like a tree for me but some twisted chaos version instead. Eh, if a guy made of wood wants to no longer look like a tree but instead a mass of mutated twisted vines and use weapons made using the burnt remains of his distant relatives then so be it.

 Kroothawk wrote:
Guess how Wood Elves and the treeman are called in the German armybook?
Wood Elves and treeman! No translation at all! Even the armybook has an English name. How lazy is that!

BTW this trend started with Astra Miltarum, where all units have the English names untranslated.

Really Surprised about that. Was Walden Elfen (Wood Elves) too hard? However Baumman (Tree-man) doesn't sound like something a german would say.

 cyphertheory wrote:
Heard talk of a new unit called the sisters of the thorn coming after the next week

I wouldn't be at all surprised if GW changed their Dryad units to somethng like this: it's the same reasoning as MGS went into above, "Dryad" is a fundamentally weak IP. It's an ancient idea and basically anyone can make a tree-woman sculpt.

"Sisters of the Thorn", however, is a much more fanciful, and thus protect-able, property. These days a lot of GW's ideas only really make complete sense if you understand their corporate IP stategy.


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 Coyote81 wrote:

 Kroothawk wrote:
Guess how Wood Elves and the treeman are called in the German armybook?
Wood Elves and treeman! No translation at all! Even the armybook has an English name. How lazy is that!

BTW this trend started with Astra Miltarum, where all units have the English names untranslated.

Really Surprised about that. Was Walden Elfen (Wood Elves) too hard? However Baumman (Tree-man) doesn't sound like something a german would say.

Acrually, this may be another example of IP strategy: translating the names makes it seem the names are descriptive, that is, the unit is simply one embodiment of a general idea, rather then a trademark.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Well those confirm my initial impression

Really nice new mini but far better suited to being an elder avatar than a Treeman

which is good and bad in equal measures

That's exactly what I thought when I saw the pics.

I have the WD in hand and noticed that no-one seems to have commented on Naestra and Arahan being on the cover of the Limited Edition book. On foot too...

Also, an article mentions Araloth being able to re-roll 1's to wound when in a wood, which isn't in his specific rule set. Could this indicate that being an army wide rule similar to what we've seen with the Dark and High Elves?

 Kroothawk wrote:
Guess how Wood Elves and the treeman are called in the German armybook?
Wood Elves and treeman! No translation at all! Even the armybook has an English name. How lazy is that!

BTW this trend started with Astra Miltarum, where all units have the English names untranslated.

Was the IG codex really translated? 'Cause in French we had that with the "Astra Militarum" book