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Acrually, this may be another example of IP strategy: translating the names makes it seem the names are descriptive, that is, the unit is simply one embodiment of a general idea, rather then a trademark.

That's probably closer to the truth than being lazy. If gw makes everything a proper noun then it protects trademark easier.

Personnally I got the Tyranids book in English because some units names were translated awfully, and for the next books it won't matter anymore! A win-win situation!

Nice palette GW. WTH are they thinking over there? It's a block of wood, not a peacock. I can't wait to see some talented painters attack this Treeman kit with season colour schemes. That's my favorite part of Wood Elves.

Trees are not all dull and brown and grey unless you're in Skyrim.

Bright gaudy colours are very much present; and considering the general vibrant theme that GW has it makes sense that their treemen take after a more autumnal or brilliant colour scheme.

but yes it will be great to see these models in different schemes - the deer I think would look great without the bright green manes

Removed.

I am realy liking the trees ! May have to get a few for my deamons as well as my wood elves :0 I hope they are not 100$ each here :$

Also about looking like trees honestly if some of the trees around here started walking, I sure they would look mean like that :d not majestic

 Overread wrote:
Trees are not all dull and brown and grey unless you're in Skyrim.

Bright gaudy colours are very much present; and considering the general vibrant theme that GW has it makes sense that their treemen take after a more autumnal or brilliant colour scheme.

but yes it will be great to see these models in different schemes - the deer I think would look great without the bright green manes

I'm not familiar with many trees that have blue, orange and/or purple bark.

Saldiven wrote:

 Overread wrote:
Trees are not all dull and brown and grey unless you're in Skyrim.

Bright gaudy colours are very much present; and considering the general vibrant theme that GW has it makes sense that their treemen take after a more autumnal or brilliant colour scheme.

but yes it will be great to see these models in different schemes - the deer I think would look great without the bright green manes

I'm not familiar with many trees that have blue, orange and/or purple bark.

I'm not familiar with many dragons, orcs, elves or dwarves.

Saldiven wrote:

 Overread wrote:
Trees are not all dull and brown and grey unless you're in Skyrim.

Bright gaudy colours are very much present; and considering the general vibrant theme that GW has it makes sense that their treemen take after a more autumnal or brilliant colour scheme.

but yes it will be great to see these models in different schemes - the deer I think would look great without the bright green manes

I'm not familiar with many trees that have blue, orange and/or purple bark.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eucalyptus_deglupta

And what could be a more angry tree than the endangered Eucalyptus!

There's also Prunus serrula with its reddy coloured trunk.

 Overread wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eucalyptus_deglupta

And what could be a more angry tree than the endangered Eucalyptus!

"Endangered"?

 AlexHolker wrote:

 Overread wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eucalyptus_deglupta

And what could be a more angry tree than the endangered Eucalyptus!

"Endangered"?

Wait I'm mixing up Koalas and trees or something

Let's change that to slaved for the use of mankind for paper and oils! Yes trees in slavery chains!

Trees can look really weird with fungi and odd growths and strange colorations. I suppose they take up al kinds of strange metals and stuff from the ground that react with oxide and glucose and chemical stuff i dont know about.

Anyway, the models shown are clearly magical spirits in forrest aspect, and not living walking trees.

Not to mention Lichen. Which is said "Like en" for some reason.

I mean, it's not called Laikenstein...

Saldiven wrote:

 Overread wrote:
Trees are not all dull and brown and grey unless you're in Skyrim.

Bright gaudy colours are very much present; and considering the general vibrant theme that GW has it makes sense that their treemen take after a more autumnal or brilliant colour scheme.

but yes it will be great to see these models in different schemes - the deer I think would look great without the bright green manes

I'm not familiar with many trees that have blue, orange and/or purple bark.

Here's a bright red and green tree I see often in my work in the tropics. Sometimes called the Gringo Tree because it peels like a sunburned tourist.

Here are the colorful madrone and manzanita trees that can be found all over the area where I grew up

Check out the amazing color on this Japanese Coral Bark Maple tree

Blue bark is admittedly something I have never seen, but a variety of purple-red-orange type colors is not even that rare in some parts of the world.


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 Furyou Miko wrote:
Not to mention Lichen. Which is said "Like en" for some reason.

I mean, it's not called Laikenstein...

Probably because it's spelled LiechTenstein. Has nothing to do with lichen, which has a Greek word-origin.

 Buzzsaw wrote:

 Coyote81 wrote:

 Kroothawk wrote:
Guess how Wood Elves and the treeman are called in the German armybook?
Wood Elves and treeman! No translation at all! Even the armybook has an English name. How lazy is that!

BTW this trend started with Astra Miltarum, where all units have the English names untranslated.

Really Surprised about that. Was Walden Elfen (Wood Elves) too hard? However Baumman (Tree-man) doesn't sound like something a german would say.

Acrually, this may be another example of IP strategy: translating the names makes it seem the names are descriptive, that is, the unit is simply one embodiment of a general idea, rather then a trademark.

It is "Waldelfen" and "Baummensch" in the current edition.
And the new texts in German WD and rulebooks read like google-translations without a human editor fixing the difficult words.
Maybe because that's what it is. Another sign that GW has lost interest in the non-English markets (if that needs more confirmation after the closure of all non-UK HQs). Another unprovoked and unexpected way to artificially lose customers.

US GW HQ is still open.

Oryza Sativa- I don't usually think "tropics" when I think of wood elves, though (referring to one of your examples). I also am looking forward to seeing these painted in more muted / earthy tones.

Not really sure if I like that treeman model or not.

 Jehan-reznor wrote:
The treeman/spirit looks more like a chaos creation than a wood elf creation to me or is it secretly a Dark elf one?

Well it is a Daemon possessed tree, so...

No, it's not. Forest Spirits aren't daemonic in nature, they're possessed of an entirely different form of sapience derived from the genius loci of the forest itself. I guess you could say they're "daemons of athel loren", but they're not Warp-based entities.

So they "kinda" are Demon-posessed trees. Uh, I don't know any Wood Elf fluff, this surprises me.

Well, once more I have to say that model is gorgeous. I'd love to have one for Pathfinder campaigns, but I'm certain if I did that we'd start encountering hostile ents more often. DMs and strange coincidences, I guess

I absolutely love the new treeman. Pretty much the first one I've ever seen that I really liked. Really feels much more like an angry spirit rather than just an animated tree. I agree that some more muted paint schemes would be getter though.

pgmason wrote:
I absolutely love the new treeman. Pretty much the first one I've ever seen that I really liked. Really feels much more like an angry spirit rather than just an animated tree. I agree that some more muted paint schemes would be getter though.

It's miles better than the previous GW offerings... however that's not saying much, I still think it's bad compared to a lot of other visualisations of treeman type things and I still think it doesn't suit the "slow lumbering angry tree" thing that GW have been using for their Treemen. If they changed the fluff so that tree things are actually fast agile angry trees, this fits that aesthetic better, but I don't think they've done that.

I have to say I tried, but I can't like the new treeman... any idea on the size of that thing? Height and base size?

Truth is, if I'm going for an anthropomorphic treeman, I might as well go here:



I am happy they are keeping the Eternal Guard on the book, though (I got like 40 of those, and the metal ones are beautiful models) and I really want to see the wild riders and the new troops we can make with the dual kits...

That miniature looks awesome! It might be too big though...sadly.

JMMelo wrote:

Truth is, if I'm going for an anthropomorphic treeman, I might as well go here:

I'm afraid there are certain anatomical features that mean that can't be a treeman

So you think treewomen don't have what it takes to be a treeman? SEXIST!









/e: I am making a joke here and not a serious claim. Just making sure.

A clearer image of this new unit:

So those are like halberds?

Via Natfka via Lord Anathir on Warseer

"Confirmed rumour from a PDF copy"
rumours are not from me, I just copied and pasted from wargamer.au

archers are same as before except they now skirmish and all bows are glade guard longbows; re roll all ones to hit and wound

dryads still skirmish have a 6+ Ward save and can upgrade their unit champion to a treekin - tasty.

Also archers champ has a new optional rule - asrai prowess - which gives them a mini bow of Loren - 3D3 str4 shots once per game - not bad for 25 points !!! "

"Lore attribute is to either move forests or opponents take 2D6 Str 2 KB hits for all opponent units in forests. Match with shadow magic and Ouch! Also interesting on the treemen - all I'll say is Optimus Vine is not far from the truth smile.gif . Old riders are there - but you C&A. Upgrade to stag riders. monstrous Cav - 3 Str 5, move 8. MR 1 and 5+WS"

"12 points for 2Str5 AP attacks with WS5I6 for the glaive unit"