curran12 wrote:
Most of them are hokum, used to push an agenda at the cost of those who actually suffered in those events.

The worst are the most disgusting kind of exploitation (9/11, Sandy Hook), the best are just funny for their goofiness (lizard people).

 poppa G wrote:

 curran12 wrote:
Most of them are hokum, used to push an agenda at the cost of those who actually suffered in those events.

The worst are the most disgusting kind of exploitation (9/11, Sandy Hook), the best are just funny for their goofiness (lizard people).

Lizard people and Chemtrails are really silly to me.

Russ Tice may sound like a gakky Pokemon, but he was much closer to a professional paranoid. Tice was an intelligence analyst for the National Security Agency, serving for decades before he decided to turn whistle-blower in 2005. And when he went, he went big -- Tice ran screaming straight to the New York Times about how the American government was invading the privacy of its citizens. They're reading your emails! They're listening in on your phone conversations!

What a loon. As if the government could ever guess your password. You used a "3" instead of an "E"! That's practically cryptomancy.

Unfortunately for Tice, this wasn't his first brush with whistle-blowing. In 2001, he suspected a co-worker of being a Chinese double agent and was so insistent that his superiors finally submitted him to an emergency psychological evaluation. They declared that his delusions of being surrounded by Asian 007s were less than concrete and downgraded his security clearance before eventually firing him altogether.

Thanks to his prior tug-of-war with NSA bigwigs, many wondered if Tice was simply spreading malicious rumors after his disgraceful firing. Add to that the fact that his allegations at the time sounded like a bad techno-thriller plot -- the NSA has a massive computer system that can sort and filter hundreds of thousands of conversations in seconds, and only Sandra Bullock can stop it! -- and Tice was difficult to take seriously. Critics said he was paranoid, and professional butt cheek Bill O'Reilly even went so far as to call for Tice to be imprisoned for his outrageous claims.

But It Turned Out ...

You know exactly how that whole NSA thing turned out: In early 2013, Edward Snowden entered stage left. Unlike Tice, who had always been careful to stick to his non-disclosure agreements while blowing on the ol' whistle, Snowden began drop-kicking secrecy left and right -- the more classified the information, the better. Snowden trucked in a massive amount of physical evidence to support his case, and his revelations proved that Tice was not only telling the truth, but had in fact merely scratched the surface. The entire concept of privacy in America would never be the same! The American public was devastated by this betrayal and displayed said devastation in their own unique way: by briefly skimming the news, deciding it was too long to read, and then going right back to tweeting about celebrity sex tapes and unsatisfying burritos.

~ Also from Cracked

 Gentleman_Jellyfish wrote:
I do find it funny that a year ago anybody who was convinced the government was doing any domestic spying was labeled as a crazy conspiracy theorist.

 poppa G wrote:
I find that a lot of them are more than likely true. The main ones for me would be ... the Sandy Hook shooting.

 d-usa wrote:
I'm amazed at the people I know that are able to consolidate the belief that the government is completely incompetent and unable to do even the most simple thing right and that the government is able to create elaborate schemes and execute them without anybody catching on to them.

 curran12 wrote:
And why is it you think the government is capable of keeping thi level of secrecy when they cannot even function normally most days? Tell me that. Tell me how the government can somehow keep information control over the "~100" people as your example says with perfect accuracy.

 TheMeanDM wrote:

 curran12 wrote:
And why is it you think the government is capable of keeping thi level of secrecy when they cannot even function normally most days? Tell me that. Tell me how the government can somehow keep information control over the "~100" people as your example says with perfect accuracy.

Why did people ever believe that their own government would never spy upon their own citizens?

Why did people ever believe that there was never such a thing as "Carnivore"?

Why for years did people believe there really was no "Area 51"?

I find it very interesting that, as someone already pointed out, people who are called "crazy" because they believe in a "conspiracy theory" aren't so crazy once the theory is proven to be correct.

 d-usa wrote:
I'm amazed at the people I know that are able to consolidate the belief that the government is completely incompetent and unable to do even the most simple thing right and that the government is able to create elaborate schemes and execute them without anybody catching on to them.

 LordofHats wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
I'm amazed at the people I know that are able to consolidate the belief that the government is completely incompetent and unable to do even the most simple thing right and that the government is able to create elaborate schemes and execute them without anybody catching on to them.

I'm amazed there are still people who think vaccine's cause autism. I'm surrounded by them.

DutchWinsAll wrote:

 poppa G wrote:
I find that a lot of them are more than likely true. The main ones for me would be ... the Sandy Hook shooting.

So you believe a few hundred to a few thousand (at least) people were paid off by the Federal govt to fake the deaths of 26 children and adults (forgetting about every other mass school shooting) to do what exactly? Fail to re-institute a gun ban that was in practice from 1994 to 2004?

Are you one of those people that needs to see pics of dead children to get off or are you just a conspiracy nut?

Please, go ahead and tell me what anyone had to gain by faking the murder of children. The only people I can see that actually gained any financial benefit from Sandy Hook was the gun industry. They saw record numbers for months after.

Because you know what, there is no conspiracy. Some POS killed a bunch of people and an inept President thought he could garner more votes by inaccurately gauging that the American populace wanted "gun control", even when every piece of legislation they passed was horribly, horribly written (NYS SAFE Act for instance). And those politicians were quickly shot down for having stupid ideas, as they should have.

Please, do tell the "conspiracy".