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Wondering if there are any marine chapters who have a hatred for specific chaos gods. I know there are some who specialise in rooting out chaos, but are there any, for example, that have a thing for wiping out those who follow Nurgle or Tzeentch? Say, some that would seek out certain chaos chapters that are loyal to one god? Done a bit of looking and can't really find any, so they may not exist, but there are alot of chapters.

Not really to a god but I know space wolves don't like thousand sons because of their sorcery amd pyskers so maybe they don't like tzeentch as well

 Metaljunx wrote:
Not really to a god but I know space wolves don't like thousand sons because of their sorcery amd pyskers so maybe they don't like tzeentch as well

and their history with the tsons legion.


Iron hands probably hate Slanesh for a combination of: indulgence of the flesh(they hate flesh), general sloth, fulgrim being corrupted by slanesh(Ferrus like Fulgrim for some reason), and Fulgrim and a bunch of slaneshi marines killing Ferrus and most of the Iron hands first company.

Iron Hands have been depicted as adversaries of various Slaaneshi cults and factions (not just Emp Children), although it hasn't been explicitly stated that they hate Slaanesh more than the other Chaos gods. They probably subconsciously hate what Slaanesh stands for, I'm sure, although I imagine generally any loyalist chapter finds all four of the gods detestable to the point where hating one more than the other seems pointless.

Come to think about it, a marine outright stating they hate one god more than the others almost seems kinda heretical to me because it implies the others actually have saving graces. ("Yea, those Khornates are murderors but at least they're honorable, unlike Slaanesh followers!" BLAM). ...ironically followers of Chaos actually do appreciate the "good" aspects of the loyalists in that regard (Angron saluting a Space Wolf that was fighting really well on Armegeddon or Julius sincerely thanking his foe for giving him a good time for example. I find it hard to imagine loyalists ever doing the vice versa to Chaos followers)

TiamatRoar wrote:

Come to think about it, a marine outright stating they hate one god more than the others almost seems kinda heretical to me because it implies the others actually have saving graces. ("Yea, those Khornates are murderors but at least they're honorable, unlike Slaanesh followers!" BLAM). ...ironically followers of Chaos actually do appreciate the "good" aspects of the loyalists in that regard (Angron saluting a Space Wolf that was fighting really well on Armegeddon or Julius sincerely thanking his foe for giving him a good time for example. I find it hard to imagine loyalists ever doing the vice versa to Chaos followers)

most space marines do not know the chaos gods, they only know the heretic and thus are unable to discern the difference between a foul smelling nurgle follower or a chance consumed tzeench initiate.

As for giving a salute, I can certainly see it happening. There is a different salute you give the enemy than you give your friend. It would only be given though for acts that deserve it. Dogged determination, fighting fair, or acts of valor or bravery etc. These are not often shown by the traitors, but when they are, they might be saluted or at least respected.....to a point.

It's a reasonable assumption that a follower of chaos probably committed some atrocities, or at the very least is implicit in them or supportive of them. I'm pretty sure most people who have a conscience (or at least are trying to pretend they have one) would shy away from giving a salute to someone fighting "honorably" when their cause is one of wanton murder, destruction, or worse, and/or when that person has most likely committed several atrocities in the past and is unrepentant of them. The best I think a Space Marine would be willing to give such a heretic is an honorable death, but nothing more than that. Thus while the honor would be acknowledged slightly, I don't imagine most, if not all, space marine chapters acknowledging it or any other "good" side of chaos enough to hate one Chaos god over another, when all four are so atrocious that it's almost disgusting to draw such lines.

In addition, drawing such lines probably leaves an opening to corruption that a chaos god can exploit, although admittingly I don't recall any official fluff ever doing a story on that. ......prolly cause GW almost never acknowledges the good sides of chaos THAT much in depth either, sadly.

A daemon is a daemon. Purge it with bolter and flame. Look not upon the blasphemous runes of the dark gods, for therein lies the path to madness and damnation.

A veteran space marine may know the differences between a plaguebearer and a bloodthirster and how to defeat them on the field of battle, but very few space marines would possess enough forbidden occult knowledge to know what power of damnation they are beholden to.

TiamatRoar wrote:
It's a reasonable assumption that a follower of chaos probably committed some atrocities, or at the very least is implicit in them or supportive of them. I'm pretty sure most people who have a conscience (or at least are trying to pretend they have one) would shy away from giving a salute to someone fighting "honorably" when their cause is one of wanton murder, destruction, or worse, and/or when that person has most likely committed several atrocities in the past and is unrepentant of them.

Not all chaos marines causes are wanton murder. Being chaotic, they have a million causes and a million ways to wage campains and war.

Also the loyalists arent exactly peacekeepers with rubber bullets. They often commit atrocities as well, bombarding planets into submission without taking heed civilian casualties.

Iron Hands have a particular hatred for Slaanesh.
Space Wolves have a particular hatred for Tzeentch.
Of course, they hate all Chaos Gods with a burning hatred, but some marines have a stronger dislike of the things represented by one Chaos God than those of another.
Another cause for such an even greater than normal hatred would of course be bad experiences with followers of a certain god.

Maybe Sons of Malice? Their allegiance is to Malal, a Chaos god dedicated to killing the other Chaos gods. Grey Knights might also qualify.

generally all the fluff does not say "fight the heretic" it says "HATE THE HERETIC" there's no room in the Imperium for respect for those heretics who betrayed the emperor.

 Exergy wrote:

TiamatRoar wrote:
It's a reasonable assumption that a follower of chaos probably committed some atrocities, or at the very least is implicit in them or supportive of them. I'm pretty sure most people who have a conscience (or at least are trying to pretend they have one) would shy away from giving a salute to someone fighting "honorably" when their cause is one of wanton murder, destruction, or worse, and/or when that person has most likely committed several atrocities in the past and is unrepentant of them.

Not all chaos marines causes are wanton murder. Being chaotic, they have a million causes and a million ways to wage campains and war.

Also the loyalists arent exactly peacekeepers with rubber bullets. They often commit atrocities as well, bombarding planets into submission without taking heed civilian casualties.

It's a reasonable assumption that a follower of chaos PROBABLY committed some atrocities.

Sure, not all chaos followers do, but the vast majority sure as hell do.

For the most part, going through all studio and BL fluff and then some, it is VERY clear that while the Imperium is very dark and not nice and even evil in a lot of cases, Chaos on average is waaaaay more so. The most moral and nicest chaos planets and individuals are nicer than the most evil and corrupt of the Imperium's planets and individuals, but the most evil loyalists don't even come close to the most evil chaos followers (and any that somehow do get evil enough SURPRISE turns to Chaos or gets corrupted by it), nor do the nicest chaos followers come close to the nicest loyalists. Chaos as a whole simply is less naturally prone to benevolence and more naturally leans towards atrocity. And this isn't even Imperial Propaganda considering that lots of novels and studio fluff from a Chaos perspective portrays Chaos as a whole as morally worse on average than the Imperium.

The Imperium as a whole actually does care about civilian casualties, even if certain individuals within it don't. That's why the Crimson Slaughter got excommunicated and why Inquisitor Kryptman was given the boot, and why the Flesh Tearers are constantly being censured. Chaos as a whole meanwhile would actually celebrate civilian casualties most of the time, with the only ones caring being the ones who had a stake (practical, personal, emotional, or otherwise) in the civilians that got killed.

I'd say for the most part our loyalist brothers are ignorant of the different facets of the great pantheon, preferring to wallow in their ignorance than actually know their enemy.

MarsNZ wrote:
I'd say for the most part our loyalist brothers are ignorant of the different facets of the great pantheon, preferring to wallow in their ignorance than actually know their enemy.

proably a good guess. the upper echelons proably know more, but for the rank and file "ignorance is bliss" sides harder to turn to chaos if you don't even know whom to pray to