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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/30 13:41:24
Subject: Sang Guard Boltguns as regular Boltguns?
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Violent Enforcer
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So, in a modelling sense, would it be okay to represent regular bolters on (in this case) Grey Hunters but using Angelus Bolter models? The Grey Hunters in question will not be Space Wolves in appearance. I am planning on using SW rules to represent my own custom legion and the Angelus Bolters would be modeled appropriately. I feel it would be okay considering that Sanguinary Guard are quite distinct models and it would be quite difficult to confuse them with regular infantry. What do you think?
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/04/30 13:44:22
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/30 13:53:23
Subject: Sang Guard Boltguns as regular Boltguns?
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Oberstleutnant
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That's fine, you could run full sanguinary guard models as vanguard vets or assault marines so long as the equipment is wysiwyg and it's obvious what unit is what. You just want to make sure the iconography fits together with the wolf stuff or it might look out of place, but there's definitely no rules problem.
I'm assembling a Blood Ravens army which is using a lot of Blood Angel bits from Sang Guard and Death Company kits for the basic infantry, DA vets as librarians. Using other kits to spice your stuff up is a great idea imo, genetically engineered warriors with the wealth of a million worlds lavished upon them should look good ; p
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/30 15:07:27
Subject: Sang Guard Boltguns as regular Boltguns?
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Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge
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They still look like bolters, so I don't see the problem. Just make it clear they're not merely bolt pistols. Even then, GH have both, so I don't see how there'd be much confusion. Go nuts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/30 16:10:13
Subject: Sang Guard Boltguns as regular Boltguns?
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Violent Enforcer
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Thanks, I'll probably go ahead with the idea.
Over-all I'm thinking about making all of the ranged weapons for my chapter as either wrist-mounted or shoulder-mounted as (fluff wise) they are a chapter that excels in swordsmanship and so would keep their hands free for swordplay (They will be samurai-themed).
In the past I have done conversions with combi-bolters as having a regular bolter as well as a shoulder-mounted 1shot. I quite liked the result and would like to echo the theme throughout this army. My only issue is, with having wrist-mounted weapons as regular guns (bolters, plasmaguns, meltaguns ext.) and shoulder-mounted weapons as combi 1shots, how would I/should I represent pistols?
At the moment I'm thinking of regular pistols as either being held as per usual or strapped to their armour somewhere.
In addition to my original question, Y'all could hit me with some ideas?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/01 01:25:44
Subject: Sang Guard Boltguns as regular Boltguns?
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Oberstleutnant
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Space Wolves might be a good list to run your guys with, as Grey hunters have bolters and are very good at melee, they all have close combat weapons so can be modeled holding chain swords (Chain KATANAS!! >:-) ) and have good close combat special rules. Allied Imperial guard as "ashigaru" would work well too thematically imo. There are some great samurai and ashigaru kits from Wargames Factory. The WGF ashibaru bowmen arms can be used with some hacking and modifying to hold rifles instead of bows which works well. You should also get some sashimono that you can add to your SMs if you buy some of those kits. A couple allied infantry platoons to provide troop bodies, with commissars modeled as samurai-SM's would be pretty awesome imo. Would also give access to good IG armour which is always nice.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/05/01 01:29:14
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/01 02:58:14
Subject: Sang Guard Boltguns as regular Boltguns?
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Violent Enforcer
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Yonan wrote:Space Wolves might be a good list to run your guys with, as Grey hunters have bolters and are very good at melee, they all have close combat weapons so can be modeled holding chain swords (Chain KATANAS!! >:-) ) and have good close combat special rules.
Allied Imperial guard as "ashigaru" would work well too thematically imo. There are some great samurai and ashigaru kits from Wargames Factory. The WGF ashibaru bowmen arms can be used with some hacking and modifying to hold rifles instead of bows which works well. You should also get some sashimono that you can add to your SMs if you buy some of those kits. A couple allied infantry platoons to provide troop bodies, with commissars modeled as samurai- SM's would be pretty awesome imo. Would also give access to good IG armour which is always nice.
Thanks for the input. It is certainly something for me to consider.
I've thought about all sorts of ways I could make a thematic samurai army (including CSM and GK) but SW just seem to feel right. At the moment I'm heavily exploring the possibility of Inquisitorial allies themed as a ninja( DCA, AcroFlag) and rifleman(Acolyte, GunMonkey) detachment though I will certainly look into IG.
IG would give me more ranged firepower but no fun ninja shenanigans.
If you have any other ideas feel free to share. I like hearing what other people think even if I don't necessarily follow their ideas or advice.
Peace
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/01 04:45:08
Subject: Re:Sang Guard Boltguns as regular Boltguns?
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Hellish Haemonculus
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If you want some Space Marine Samurai inspiration, you should check out this thread.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/544676.page
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/05/01 04:45:20
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/13 06:52:39
Subject: Re:Sang Guard Boltguns as regular Boltguns?
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Violent Enforcer
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I'm sooo jealous of those models
I hope to hell I can produce final results half as awesome as these. Mind you I do hope to achieve a greater level of customisation and with a more personal theme.
Back on track, I'm planning on doing all marine weapons as wrist-mounted (plasma, flamer, melta) only concern is that they'd look more like pistols.
My rationale for this is that this would free up their hands for wielding their blades, similar to grey knights.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/13 10:09:30
Subject: Sang Guard Boltguns as regular Boltguns?
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Violent Enforcer
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Your idea sounds pretty cool. This might be a bit pricey, and add a lot of converting to your project, but how about bolt pistol servo skulls for everyone with a pistol? That would definitely differentiate between the wrist mounted ones.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/13 10:35:04
Subject: Sang Guard Boltguns as regular Boltguns?
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Violent Enforcer
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That sounds pretty cool man.
My full plan was to have all combi-weapons represented as wrist-mounted bolter and a small shoulder mounted plas/melt/flam
I've done the shoulder mounting on a model before and I was very please with the results however now I'm thinking that pistols could be shoulder-mounted and the single combi-shot be, as you suggested, attached to a servo-skull or something of the equivalent (not sure if my army would have servo-skulls or something that looks unique but serves the same functions) Automatically Appended Next Post: I don't mind about adding more converting in, I live for this stuff.
unfortunately you're right about the cost :/
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/13 20:01:27
Subject: Sang Guard Boltguns as regular Boltguns?
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Morphing Obliterator
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Xendarc wrote:That sounds pretty cool man.
My full plan was to have all combi-weapons represented as wrist-mounted bolter and a small shoulder mounted plas/melt/flam
I've done the shoulder mounting on a model before and I was very please with the results however now I'm thinking that pistols could be shoulder-mounted and the single combi-shot be, as you suggested, attached to a servo-skull or something of the equivalent (not sure if my army would have servo-skulls or something that looks unique but serves the same functions)
How about using wolf or other animal skulls instead of the usual human ones for the servo skulls
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