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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/05 18:49:51
Subject: Drug cartels are ruining Cinco de Mayo
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Blood Angel Captain Wracked with Visions
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http://money.cnn.com/2014/05/05/investing/lime-shortage-drug-cartels/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
Don't blame your bartender this Cinco de Mayo for tossing a lemon in your Corona. Blame shadowy groups like the Knights Templar Cartel.
While the great lime shortage of 2014 was initially sparked by severe winter weather and drought conditions in Mexico, criminal organizations have used violence and extortion to exacerbate the situation. The price of a case of limes, a mainstay of margaritas, guacamole and summer beers, has more than quadrupled in recent months.
The lime shortage illustrates the close ties between the U.S. and Mexican economies and how violence south of the Rio Grande can have ripple effects on American consumers -- and not just the ones hitting the beaches in Cabo San Lucas and Cancún.
"Most people in the U.S. don't realize how highly dependent we are on Mexico for certain products. They don't understand how much our economies are intertwined. The bad things happening in Mexico do have an impact on U.S. consumers and U.S. exporters," said David Shirk, a security specialist at the Mexico Institute of the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars.
Mexico is the world's largest exporter of limes, sourcing almost all of the limes the U.S. consumes.
The ability of organized crime to impact lime prices highlights unintended consequences tied to the U.S.-led war on drugs.
The Knights Templar, which is based in the lime producing epicenter of Michoacán, is a splinter group of La Familia Michoacana, the drug cartel dismantled by law enforcement around 2011.
"Breaking up major organized crime groups into smaller pieces does not necessarily make them more manageable," said Shirk.
In recent years the group has pushed into kidnapping, human trafficking and extortion of various business owners, including those involved in lime exports.
"As it becomes more and more difficult to move drugs into the United States, all of these cartels have diversified their businesses," said Shannon O'Neil, a senior fellow for Latin American studies at the Council on Foreign Relations.
Cartel members have demanded a certain percentage of orchard owners' lime shipments, threatening to burn down their farms, rape their daughters or kill their children.
Business owners inside and outside the lime industry have recently pushed back by forming vigilante "self-defense" groups, which have battled the drug cartels in violent shootouts.
"They decided, 'We are losing our livelihood and need to defend our land.' It's very Wild West," said O'Neil.
The Mexican government has responded forcefully with a military presence and told the vigilante groups to stand down by May 10. It remains to be seen if they will do so.
"The influence of organized crime groups is extremely pervasive and affects daily life in ways that are shocking," said Shirk. "It's part of daily life in Michoacán and one of the unintended consequences of the drug war."
The violence in the region and threats from criminal organizations has made it all but impossible for the U.S. Food and Drug Administration to certify the limes that are emerging from Mexico are being grown in a sanitary way.
The fallout has jacked up prices for U.S. and Mexican consumers and businesses accustomed to celebrating Cinco de Mayo with limes in their beers, margaritas and mojitos.
A case of limes now goes for close to $100, up substantially from reports of $15 to $20 last year. The average price of a lime at the grocery store is up about a quarter from last year, according to the Department of Agriculture.
That has forced grocery stores, bars and restaurants to pass along some of the costs to consumers or eat into their profits. Even if places do get limes, they are often smaller and less juicy.
Analysts said Americans can expect price disruptions in the future due to the difficult security situation in Mexico.
For example, drug cartels have recently pushed into the country's avocado industry, although that crop hasn't been suffering from the same levels of weather induced shortages.
"I don't think organized crime groups care about limes at all. They care about making a profit," said Shirk. "Mexico's economic and security problems are our own."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/05 18:58:39
Subject: Drug cartels are ruining Cinco de Mayo
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Thanks Obama!
(in the WH, the President suddenly stands up going...thinking "what just happened")
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/05 19:03:36
Subject: Drug cartels are ruining Cinco de Mayo
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Bryan Ansell
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When life gives you lemons - Blame Obama!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/05 19:04:20
Subject: Re:Drug cartels are ruining Cinco de Mayo
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I am finding this article rather distasteful.
On one hand it is trying to explain how criminal elements in Mexico effect the supply chain of produce in the US. Okay. That is worthwhile information.
But then you have quotes like this:
In recent years the group has pushed into kidnapping, human trafficking and extortion of various business owners, including those involved in lime exports.
"As it becomes more and more difficult to move drugs into the United States, all of these cartels have diversified their businesses," said Shannon O'Neil, a senior fellow for Latin American studies at the Council on Foreign Relations.
Cartel members have demanded a certain percentage of orchard owners' lime shipments, threatening to burn down their farms, rape their daughters or kill their children.
Followed up by this:
Analysts said Americans can expect price disruptions in the future due to the difficult security situation in Mexico.
For example, drug cartels have recently pushed into the country's avocado industry, although that crop hasn't been suffering from the same levels of weather induced shortages.
"I don't think organized crime groups care about limes at all. They care about making a profit," said Shirk. "Mexico's economic and security problems are our own."
Bold emphasis mine.
Right. Okay. But not exactly the same problems are they? Me paying $0.75 for a lime instead of $0.50 is not the same as the family being threatened with rape or death if they don't give in to the cartels.
Perhaps I am being overly sensitive but this article seems to have some major blinders on in terms of what it is discussing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/05 19:11:36
Subject: Drug cartels are ruining Cinco de Mayo
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Sounds like we need to put 500% tarrifs up, to crush the cartels. Yea, the cartels.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/05 19:14:33
Subject: Drug cartels are ruining Cinco de Mayo
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The Conquerer
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Frazzled wrote:Sounds like we need to put 500% tarrifs up, to crush the cartels. Yea, the cartels.
Don't you mean roll out the tanks and Dachshund assault squads to purge Mexico of filth?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/05 19:18:29
Subject: Drug cartels are ruining Cinco de Mayo
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Grey Templar wrote: Frazzled wrote:Sounds like we need to put 500% tarrifs up, to crush the cartels. Yea, the cartels.
Don't you mean roll out the tanks and Dachshund assault squads to purge Mexico of filth?
Led by the Ghost of Black Jack Pershing! Time for Manifest Destiny II, "This time its vertical!"
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/05 19:24:17
Subject: Drug cartels are ruining Cinco de Mayo
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Frazzled wrote: Grey Templar wrote: Frazzled wrote:Sounds like we need to put 500% tarrifs up, to crush the cartels. Yea, the cartels.
Don't you mean roll out the tanks and Dachshund assault squads to purge Mexico of filth?
Led by the Ghost of Black Jack Pershing! Time for Manifest Destiny II, "This time its vertical!"
To quote something I saw online: I.....don't hate this.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/05 19:57:53
Subject: Re:Drug cartels are ruining Cinco de Mayo
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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Excellent, you will be conscripted as a "comfort civilian" for our wienie assault troops. Your duties will involve belly rubs and allowing them to hump your legs.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/05 20:03:32
Subject: Drug cartels are ruining Cinco de Mayo
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Weiner dogs do not hump legs, unless it is a distraction while the ninja wienerdogs are stealing your burgers.
All your burgers all belong to us!
(thanks I just had a nice memory of Rodney grabbing my bag of barbeque sandwiches, me chasing him and the bag around the house, while TBone very quietly and calmly ate an entire sandwich under the table).
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/06 03:39:10
Subject: Drug cartels are ruining Cinco de Mayo
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Dakka Veteran
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I can go without limes quite easily. But these cartels are affecting everything.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/06 03:54:55
Subject: Re:Drug cartels are ruining Cinco de Mayo
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Why are we not growing limes in our southern states?
Excellent, you will be conscripted as a "comfort civilian" for our wienie assault troops. Your duties will involve belly rubs and allowing them to hump your legs.
Thought Frazz was a Texan pure blooded Amerikan...caucasian, male, one each.
Didn't know he was that old of a Korean.....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/06 06:09:06
Subject: Drug cartels are ruining Cinco de Mayo
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Renegade Inquisitor de Marche
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Dark Traveller does have a point.
Contrasting having to pay a bit more for limes with having your family raped/tortured/killed is not only in poor taste but also shockingly out of touch with reality.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/06 11:07:41
Subject: Drug cartels are ruining Cinco de Mayo
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Androgynous Daemon Prince of Slaanesh
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What a bunch of tarts. They're really souring the holiday. Pucker up, a-holes, Captain America is coming to deliver a justice kick to your rear.
Ok, I'm done.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/06 13:21:59
Subject: Drug cartels are ruining Cinco de Mayo
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Member of the Ethereal Council
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purplefood wrote:Dark Traveller does have a point.
Contrasting having to pay a bit more for limes with having your family raped/tortured/killed is not only in poor taste but also shockingly out of touch with reality.
Or, White people problems
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/06 13:42:51
Subject: Drug cartels are ruining Cinco de Mayo
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Well thats a pretty bigoted statement. I see your college is starting to rub off on you.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/06 16:15:46
Subject: Drug cartels are ruining Cinco de Mayo
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Lady of the Lake
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It's the American way.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/06 17:06:42
Subject: Drug cartels are ruining Cinco de Mayo
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Dakka Veteran
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Lately the american way seems to be everyone else's way.
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