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https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/duststudio/dust-operation-babylon

And we're live...

It looks to be funding a new "phase" of the Dust game's narrative, essentially the entire African front of the war.

Rumor also suggests add-ons will include all the new Version 2.0 books and unit cards.

Personally i'm really excited for this. Dust has been, in its various forms, one of my absolute favorite board and miniatures games, of all time. The models are amazing and are priced hyper aggressively, with beautiful vehicles, etc... Aesthetically they've been a joy to paint, and i'm hoping this serves as a coming out party for the game as well. It lacks for a playerbase, but not because it doesn't deserve one.


Edit: Incidentally, via there forums and Paolo Parente's FB page it was confirmed that all molds are done, and it looks like they'll be fulfilling this Kickstarter with a fast 3-4 month turn-around. They've likewise said, Kickstarter allows them to roll out a huge release all at once, but these units/models are real and are coming one way or another, just slowly/staggered without crowd-funding.

I think 8 GMT translates to 3 pm EST. oh well I'll be at work. save me an early bird

Links are always good, and I have to question this game already due to your "Dust game's narrative".

Anything coming out anymore touting a "forging the narrative" theme has me on edge...

Uriels_Flame, I believe Paolo has an alternative history outlined past 2020 or something like that. currently in the story line we are still around 1947 so there is going to be lots of "Dust game narrative" coming

Gotcha.

Well, and there are comics, etc... The gameplay doesn't profess to "forge a narrative", but their is a macro fiction, as Gamingdog has said.

I'm going to jump on this, do my research on gameplay and models and sales practices and decide an the end.

I'd be willing to jump in if the price is right.

Been interested in giving Dust a spin since the original box came out some years past, but just never wanted to commit a ton of money to another game system.

If the deal is too good to pass up, I guess then now will be the time.

Unfortunately my brain is trained to expect a good deal when it comes to an established company jumping on the Kickstarter wagon.

Can't get to kickstarter from work - anyone supply a link to it yet?

So the molds are done and the stuff is coming out regardless... making this kickstarter 100% just a preorder. It's not against the letter of the rules but feels against the spirit. Eh, it's only the next step in the continuum established by other companies. I'm curious about the prices and whether they'll have any early bird offerings and what discount this will be compared with retail.

I got into Dust a while back, it seemed fun and the models were great, but personally it just wasn't for me. No one ever wanted to play it and everything was just collecting dust (pun?) so I eventually just sold it all. I dunno if I'd be into a KS unless it's some amazing deal, I already have tons of models from other campaigns that need paint and will probably never get any.

Well, from what they're saying, they're using Kickstarter to leap-frog the normal release schedule. They're saying the KS contents would be about 2 years worth of releases, slowly dripping out, without Kickstarter, versus backers being able to see all the new campaign setting minis in one lump release, and only a few months away.

Essentially, i'm of the mind that, i'm GOING to buy this all either way, so the Kickstarter just has to offer me a "deal" that meets or rather, beats my usual Miniature's Market, price.

As I said in the Dust thread, the "new" starters, if pieced out and bought at online prices, should be roughly $92 each... maybe $100 if it comes with tokens, some basic rule books, etc... Anything more, and its a non-deal.

Regarding the KS link... i'll put it up, as I said, the minute they post it . :-)

Thanks for starting this thread - and promising to keep it updated!

It is much appreciated!

I've been interested in DUST for a long time now - this may get me off the fence.

To be honest, I'm more interested in 'Warfare' then "Tactics" so, we'll see.

I find it hard to resist Weird War II stuff though!

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:

Regarding the KS link... i'll put it up, as I said, the minute they post it . :-)

Sorry - I misunderstood what you were saying then.

I thought it was set-up already!

Very interesting idea - basically giving those interested a presale event.

I like it!

There aren't any supernatural shenanigans popping up in this, are there?

When I hear Babylon mentioned with alternate history stuff, I instantly start thinking ancient advanced civilizations, spooky supernatural prophecies, magical artifacts... junk like that.

I think of Hellboy.

I think I'd love that to all be in this game!

Pulp Sci-Fi, yes, (Trained mutant gorillas, and zombies, are common-place), super-natural stuff, no.

So, a quick update...

Paolo Parente, via Facebook, just confirmed that pre-paints of all options in the Kickstarter will be an option, as will be the conventional, pre-assembled, but unpainted version.

Should be about a half-hour now?

Edit: Incidentally, before this all goes mad, or dud (depending on KS offerings), I just wanted to be open and say that I know I have a weird bias for this game. I've published some Weird War 2 fiction, and a screen-play, and this game has always scratched a really specific itch for me.

As I know I am biased, I will do my absolute best to not let my opinion cloud things (as much as possible), and will try to just drop in facts, updates, etc... as I find them. I don't want my love for a thing effecting anyone else's common sense, buying habits, etc...

Also, as a guy with a disability, my hours at the PC are occasionally limited, so anyone seeing an update i've failed to post here... I'd graciously appreciate any help. Post away! :-p

 Alpharius wrote:
I think I'd love that to all be in this game!

The models paint up fantastically!

Later tonight I'll post up some pictures of a bunch of Axis models Red Modeling painted for me.

 Alpharius wrote:
Thanks for starting this thread - and promising to keep it updated!

It is much appreciated!

I've been interested in DUST for a long time now - this may get me off the fence.

To be honest, I'm more interested in 'Warfare' then "Tactics" so, we'll see.

I find it hard to resist Weird War II stuff though!

Tactics sucks. It's boring and repetitive. Movement is very static.

Warfare was fun but sounds like they are rewriting it? Not sure what is going on there.

Well, Tactics was a board-game... so um... some static movement isn't exactly a shocker.

Warfare is still being supported, but minimally.

The new "Dust" is Dust Battlefield, which is essentially the hybrid, but this time done with Paolo Parente's blessing. It is gridless Dust Tactics, with a few advanced rules, and templates so... more what we all think of as a proper minis game.

Happily, they've killed off my most despised mechanic from Warfare, an overly restrictive FOC. Now you can use anything from your collection, in faction, and you just get various buffs for keeping certain units in FOC format (now called "Platoons")

Edit: Oh, and i'm a crappy painter, but thought i'd share, because these were a REALLY fun diversion from painting up 2000pts of 'Nids in the last three months. :-p

Axis and allies miniatures is play in a similar fashion (hex grid rather than a square) and movement was no where near as dull.

They could have done a better job with the game rules for tactics.

I thought that was supposed to have launched already?

Hurry up and get this thing live - someone!

4 minutes?

http://www.dust-tactics.com/tabid/89/g/posts/t/841/Kickstarter.aspx?p=2

Post #38 is from a vet-poster who has been spot on confirming supplemental news/rumors.

Just sharing this in case this thing doesn't launch in 3 minutes. :-p I don't wanna be Natfka'd :-p

 Piston Honda wrote:
Axis and allies miniatures is play in a similar fashion (hex grid rather than a square) and movement was no where near as dull.

They could have done a better job with the game rules for tactics.

Looking forward to the Kickstarter. I assume you are too, otherwise you wouldn't be posting here. Can we keep the merits, or lack thereof, of the rules to a different thread thanks.

UltraPrime wrote:

They could have done a better job with the game rules for tactics.

Looking forward to the Kickstarter. I assume you are too, otherwise you wouldn't be posting here. Can we keep the merits, or lack thereof, of the rules to a different thread thanks.

UltraPrime wrote:

 Piston Honda wrote:
Axis and allies miniatures is play in a similar fashion (hex grid rather than a square) and movement was no where near as dull.

They could have done a better job with the game rules for tactics.

Looking forward to the Kickstarter. I assume you are too, otherwise you wouldn't be posting here. Can we keep the merits, or lack thereof, of the rules to a different thread thanks.

It is rumored that there will be a new rule book in this kickstarter. That is what caught my interest the most.

Discussing such in comparison would not be a distraction in this thread as is the case with other kickstarter threads.

I'll let you decide if I am interested in this kickstarter as it seems you have already formed an opinion.



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Anyone aware if there is a stretch goal plan for sitting crew for the german transport like flames of war has for the sdk fz 251?

So any news on when this launches?

In about 5 minutes, we think...?