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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 19:50:31
Subject: Sisters of Battle Question
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Defending Guardian Defender
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I'm trying to finish off my sisters army and had some questions about the iconography.
Things like the Aegis defence Line and the older forge world exorcist have the Eagle Icon on them. Is that more of a Space marine type thing and would sisters tanks, units, fortifications have that icon displayed?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 19:58:41
Subject: Sisters of Battle Question
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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You mean the Aquila? Of course they'd have it The Aquila is the symbol of the Imperium and every loyal human from the PDF up to space marines and everything in between would be proud to display it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 20:01:27
Subject: Re:Sisters of Battle Question
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Defending Guardian Defender
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Thanks for such a quick answer!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 20:15:10
Subject: Sisters of Battle Question
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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The aquila is on absolutely everything the Imperium produces for any of its organizations. It's the symbol of the Imperium itself, not one of its aspects.
Of course, if you want your wall to represent a Sisters-specific site or fortification, you should add the Sororitas fleur d'lis and/or the symbol of the Order to which those Sisters belong.
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It is best to be a pessimist. You are usually right and, when you're wrong, you're pleasantly surprised. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 20:22:43
Subject: Re:Sisters of Battle Question
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Defending Guardian Defender
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what about the inquisiion symbol? I know they do work for the inquisition.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 20:22:53
Subject: Sisters of Battle Question
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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Except Black Templars, who do not (generally) wear the Aquila, IIRC.
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Pretre: OOOOHHHHH snap. That's like driving away from hitting a pedestrian.
Pacific:First person to Photoshop a GW store into the streets of Kabul wins the thread.
Selym: "Be true to thyself, play Chaos" - Jesus, Daemon Prince of Cegorach.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 20:49:39
Subject: Re:Sisters of Battle Question
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Morphing Obliterator
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Sure.
Anyway, the symbol of the Inquisition is not an I for 'Inquisition'. A big 'I' usually means 'Imperium', and it is widely used. Most imperial organizations (Administratum, Astronomican, Astra Telepathica, Arbites) have an 'I' as a symbol.
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‘Your warriors will stand down and withdraw, Curze. That is an order, not a request. (…) When this campaign is won, you and I will have words’
Rogal Dorn, just before taking the beating of his life.
from The Dark King, by Graham McNeill.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 21:04:36
Subject: Re:Sisters of Battle Question
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Defending Guardian Defender
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Thank you for clarifying... have so much to learn!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 21:16:02
Subject: Sisters of Battle Question
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Preacher of the Emperor
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You may want to consider slapping fleur de lises onto your stuff too, if you really want to Sister-up your stuff. That's the main symbol.
Not really anymore. As of the new fluff, they have no stated connection to the Ordo Hereticus, who they were formerly Chamber a Militant to. The Inquisition codex just says that the Hereticus "watches" the Sisters, among other organisations. So, from a fluff standpoint, an Inquisition symbol wouldn't really be appropriate.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 21:20:14
Subject: Sisters of Battle Question
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Hallowed Canoness
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Okay people, the correct writing is Fleur de lys. It is French.
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"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 21:25:25
Subject: Sisters of Battle Question
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Sword-Bearing Inquisitorial Crusader
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Historically correct, but the spelling changed when it was taken into the English language. Either one is grammatically correct in English.
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1400 points of EW/MW Italians (FoW)
2200 points of SoB and Inquisition (40K)
1000 points of orks (40K)
Just starting out with Ultramarines (30K)
Four 1000-2500 point forces for WHFB (RIP)
One orc team (Blood Bowl) |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 22:02:57
Subject: Sisters of Battle Question
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Hallowed Canoness
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So “fleur d'lis” and “fleur de lises” are now correct English spellings? I am surprised, but well, we make strange things to English words too  .
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"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 22:22:51
Subject: Sisters of Battle Question
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Seattle
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Basically. Of course, Joan of Arc has like forty different names, few, if any, of which are actually correct.
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It is best to be a pessimist. You are usually right and, when you're wrong, you're pleasantly surprised. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 22:41:29
Subject: Sisters of Battle Question
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Hallowed Canoness
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Jeanne d'Arc is the correct spelling  .
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"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 22:50:39
Subject: Sisters of Battle Question
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Seattle
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Yeah, but we don't use that here.
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It is best to be a pessimist. You are usually right and, when you're wrong, you're pleasantly surprised. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 22:59:18
Subject: Re:Sisters of Battle Question
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Space Marine Scout with Sniper Rifle
Lincoln, UK
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Just gotta weigh in here and state that the Sisters of Battle do not have inquisition symbols or use them as standard; they do however, use the symbol of the ecclesiarchy which is very similar only it has a sunburst shape instead of the 3 bars.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 23:13:27
Subject: Sisters of Battle Question
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Seattle
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Yep, the I itself stands for the Imperium. It's the other things that get overlaid onto it that tell you what part of the Imperium it represents. The sun-burst is the Ecclesiarchy, the Inquisition is the three bars, the scales are the Arbites, etc.
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It is best to be a pessimist. You are usually right and, when you're wrong, you're pleasantly surprised. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/21 19:01:17
Subject: Sisters of Battle Question
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Dispassionate Imperial Judge
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Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:So “fleur d'lis” and “fleur de lises” are now correct English spellings? I am surprised, but well, we make strange things to English words too  .
So, in English, 'fleur de lis' and 'fleur de lys' are used interchangeably.
But 'fleur d'lis' and 'fleur de lises' are incorrect spellings, even in English!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fleur-de-lis
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/fleur-de-lis
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/21 21:30:20
Subject: Sisters of Battle Question
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Hallowed Canoness
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Makes more sense. Thanks.
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"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/22 18:25:39
Subject: Sisters of Battle Question
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Seattle
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But 'fleur d'lis' and 'fleur de lises' are incorrect spellings, even in English!
A google search disagrees with you, indicating it is simply not a common usage, but there are several businesses with the name.
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It is best to be a pessimist. You are usually right and, when you're wrong, you're pleasantly surprised. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/22 22:08:54
Subject: Sisters of Battle Question
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Sword-Bearing Inquisitorial Crusader
Eindhoven, Netherlands
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ArbitorIan wrote:But 'fleur d'lis' and 'fleur de lises' are incorrect spellings, even in English!
If my mediocre knowledge of French gained from school lessons serves me right, the correct plural would be 'fleurs de lis' or 'fleurs de lys'. Fleur d'lis is definitely incorrect though (and illogical, as there's no vowel clash that would require ' de' or 'du' to be turned into 'd'' anyway...)
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1400 points of EW/MW Italians (FoW)
2200 points of SoB and Inquisition (40K)
1000 points of orks (40K)
Just starting out with Ultramarines (30K)
Four 1000-2500 point forces for WHFB (RIP)
One orc team (Blood Bowl) |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/22 23:40:09
Subject: Sisters of Battle Question
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Hallowed Canoness
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Brother Michael wrote:If my mediocre knowledge of French gained from school lessons serves me right, the correct plural would be 'fleurs de lis' or 'fleurs de lys'.
The last one. Correct French  .
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"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/23 01:58:35
Subject: Sisters of Battle Question
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Pragmatic Primus Commanding Cult Forces
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Moi, je aussi parle seulement un peu français, mais wouldn't 'fleur de lys' and 'fleur de lis' both be correct?
(and is seulement in the correct place, or does it go before parle or after français?)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/23 09:07:30
Subject: Sisters of Battle Question
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Sword-Bearing Inquisitorial Crusader
Eindhoven, Netherlands
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Iron_Captain wrote: Moi, je aussi parle seulement un peu français, mais wouldn't 'fleur de lys' and 'fleur de lis' both be correct?
(and is seulement in the correct place, or does it go before parle or after français?)
Je aussi causes a vowel clash
It'd be j'aussi then. But I believe you'd just use moi aussi usually. Seulement is in the right place though
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1400 points of EW/MW Italians (FoW)
2200 points of SoB and Inquisition (40K)
1000 points of orks (40K)
Just starting out with Ultramarines (30K)
Four 1000-2500 point forces for WHFB (RIP)
One orc team (Blood Bowl) |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/23 11:55:55
Subject: Re:Sisters of Battle Question
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Yellin' Yoof
London
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Anyone else notice that the sisters are becoming no longer availible on the GW website?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/23 12:04:28
Subject: Re:Sisters of Battle Question
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Sister Oh-So Repentia
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Yup.
A few models have gone 'temporarily out of stock' and then become available again, but far more have become 'no longer available' and none of those have come back into stock in the last two months. This isn't new in itself - there hasn't been a Seraphim Superior on GW UK since some time last year - but the process seems to be accelerating.
Last time I looked two special weapons were nla, along with two superiors and another seraphim. There's exactly two seraphim models available now. If anyone wonders why Sisters players still think the army might be squatted... this is why.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/23 21:31:28
Subject: Sisters of Battle Question
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Hallowed Canoness
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Brother Michael wrote:It'd be j'aussi then. But I believe you'd just use moi aussi usually. Seulement is in the right place though 
That guy is right. «Moi aussi, je parle un peu français». Do not add «seulement» here, it wont add any information and it will make it sound less natural. Alternatively «Je parle aussi un peu français» is correct too, but not the same meaning. In the first case, it means someone speaks a bit of French and you do too, in the second case you speak some language and a bit of French too.
«Fleur de lis» is apparently correct, but really «Fleur de lys» is much more usual.
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"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/25 13:23:31
Subject: Sisters of Battle Question
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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The Aquila is the imperial symbol,k the two-headed eagle. Blind to the past, looking towards the future.
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The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/26 01:22:26
Subject: Re:Sisters of Battle Question
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Hooded Inquisitorial Interrogator
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ashcroft wrote:
A few models have gone 'temporarily out of stock' and then become available again, but far more have become 'no longer available' and none of those have come back into stock in the last two months. This isn't new in itself - there hasn't been a Seraphim Superior on GW UK since some time last year - but the process seems to be accelerating.
Last time I looked two special weapons were nla, along with two superiors and another seraphim. There's exactly two seraphim models available now. If anyone wonders why Sisters players still think the army might be squatted... this is why.
I'm well past the point where I'll just scratch-build my own sisters when I want new ones. :p
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/26 09:59:38
Subject: Sisters of Battle Question
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Pragmatic Primus Commanding Cult Forces
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Melissia wrote:The Aquila is the imperial symbol,k the two-headed eagle. Blind to the past, looking towards the future.
The double-headed Aquila is supposed to represent the Byzantine emperor's power over both secular and religious matters, as well as marking him out as master of both East and West and the true Roman Emperor, as opposed to the Holy Roman Emperor, whose double headed eagle represents the Church and Kaiser ruling the Empire together. The Russian's adopted the double-headed eagle after the fall of the Byzantines, as it looks both East and West, symbolising Russia's dominion over both Europe and Asia.
The IoM just uses a double-headed eagle because it looks cool and Roman and empire-like, but it does maybe symbolise stuff.
The IoM's double-headed is blinded on one side. The blinded side looks into the future, the seeing side into the past. The blind side is better armoured. It is supposed to symbolise the fact that the future may be unforseen, but that the Imperium is well-prepared by learning from the past. That is my guess at least.
After the rise of the Imperial Cult, the eagle probably came to represent the duality of Church and State. Or maybe the Emperor and the Adeptus Terra.
Or maybe there is no symbolism at all and it just looks cool.
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