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Just to clarify what I have seen mentioned here...

There is no longer the "up to half" rule for reserves? So I can reserve my entire Army again? Please tell me this is true so I can use my Elysians again.

 Salted Diamond wrote:
Just to clarify what I have seen mentioned here...

There is no longer the "up to half" rule for reserves? So I can reserve my entire Army again? Please tell me this is true so I can use my Elysians again.

Yup thats fine but remember the tabling rule atill applies


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Rending: nows always wounds on a 6 is AP 2... This is nice cus say a str 1 rending can still hurt a wraithknight

Sniper: no longer rending but str 4 againt vehicles

Interestingly. A line is missing in thr FMC that is in the flyers rule meaning that a blast or template weapon can hit them while they are swoopong if it has the skyfire prob just a missed line but at the moment deathrays can zapp hive tyrants out of the air

Celtic Strike wrote:Yeah, unlimited Detachments is not going to work for Tourneys

True, but to bad. Would be a ton of fun.

ubermosher wrote:Deep striking vehicles now count as moving at combat speed not cruising speed.

You might actually see a Deathwind Missile Launcher.

That is scoring.

 CrownAxe wrote:

 Elric Greywolf wrote:

There are USRs called "Precision Shots" and "Precision Strikes," but Characters are not labeled as having them, either in the Unit Type section or the Characters section. Hopefully it's an oversight.

Its not an oversight. This explaines the Guard heirloom pistol that gives percision strikes that only characters can get

I suspect this is also why Living Artillery Node gave Biovores Pinning aUSR they already had at the time. It was edition proofed.

A claimed building is a unit
'citadel scenery models' interesting choice of words
claimed buildings are scoring units.

you place fortifications with the rest of your army, no more large LOS blocking nonsense.

I approve

but since vertical coherence is now 6" you can legally have a unit with some models on the shield and some models off the shield. and the shield grants the invuln save to the unit. I see fun times ahead with this one And no more 'waaaaa, I can't assault it' threads

I'm still toying with the idea of a Massive Structure building being a Warlord but have not crunched the Rules seriously enough yet to say if legal.

Nope. While the building may count as a unit after it is claimed (for certain purposes) there is no way to claim a building pre-deployment which is when your warlord is selected. As hilarious as that would otherwise be.

I will still have to crunch the Rules, but I do remember something within Stronghold that made Fortifications purchased for an Army as auto-claimed but the details are fuzzy. There is likely a timing issue involved that makes them claimed on deployment, or at least after the Warlord has to be selected in any case. I'm also a little unsure about how interchangeable Scenery Pieces and Models are, it was always a gray area in the Rules to begin with and new Rules make it even harder to say for sure. Needless, lot of reading to be done this weekend to answer some of these internal questions.

However, I can't stop thinking of an Army that is nothing but buildings!
Minds been doing that a lot since the 'unglued' Detachment Rules where reviewed.

Best of luck to you with your search then. If you figure out something you think works by all means post it here or in tactics so everyone can see it for themselves.

 Neorealist wrote:
Nope. While the building may count as a unit after it is claimed (for certain purposes) there is no way to claim a building pre-deployment which is when your warlord is selected. As hilarious as that would otherwise be.

Any building purchased as fortifications is automatically claimed.

First bullet point of Claiming buildings

JinxDragon wrote:
I will still have to crunch the Rules, but I do remember something within Stronghold that made Fortifications purchased for an Army as auto-claimed but the details are fuzzy. There is likely a timing issue involved that makes them claimed on deployment, or at least after the Warlord has to be selected in any case. I'm also a little unsure about how interchangeable Scenery Pieces and Models are, it was always a gray area in the Rules to begin with and new Rules make it even harder to say for sure. Needless, lot of reading to be done this weekend to answer some of these internal questions.

However, I can't stop thinking of an Army that is nothing but buildings!
Minds been doing that a lot since the 'unglued' Detachment Rules where reviewed.

An army of buildings would lose at the end of the first game turn. "Do not include any citadel scenery models when awarding victory points or determining if a player has any units 'on the battlefield'. " so you'll need a token non scenery unit, and probably some escape hatches.

Unglued? what game are you playing? lol

if you can make the army of buildings though, you should call it Paradise Towers. Build high for happiness

 Kommissar Kel wrote:

 Neorealist wrote:
Nope. While the building may count as a unit after it is claimed (for certain purposes) there is no way to claim a building pre-deployment which is when your warlord is selected. As hilarious as that would otherwise be.

Any building purchased as fortifications is automatically claimed.

First bullet point of Claiming buildings

Sure. However this happens 'at' the start of the game. Selecting your Warlord and traits happens 'Before' the start of the game. It's a chronological thing.

SirLynchMob,
I did sort of ponder that, there will need to be a few models inside to prevent capture as well but a few Factions have Units that do not come with Characters automatically, some which are now allowed in said Buildings. Pity the Building itself is far from being a suitable candidate thanks to the timing issue, but it doesn't make the entire attempt useless. I still am going to have to think up a list which consists of nothing but Buildings, with whatever can't be spent on another Building going into the sole Unit designed to be the Warlord in charge of the entire thing.... and the sole person within the entire complex.

As for 'unglued' it is what I have started calling the Unbound Army because it lets some really insane combinations to occur.

The claimed building thing is interesting. I totally missed that, thanks

 Neorealist wrote:

 Kommissar Kel wrote:

 Neorealist wrote:
Nope. While the building may count as a unit after it is claimed (for certain purposes) there is no way to claim a building pre-deployment which is when your warlord is selected. As hilarious as that would otherwise be.

Any building purchased as fortifications is automatically claimed.

First bullet point of Claiming buildings

Sure. However this happens 'at' the start of the game. Selecting your Warlord and traits happens 'Before' the start of the game. It's a chronological thing.

When do you start the game?

I would say that as soon as you have decided on deployment zones, mission, and set up terrain you are starting the game. Then you figure out who deploys first and then you roll for warlord traits.

FMCs can now move 12'-24' wasn't it 18'-24' before?

No, it was 12-24 before.
Is it that hard to physically compare between 6th and 7th?

Units inside transports can score again.

 SlaveToDorkness wrote:
Units inside transports can score again.

Transports score without units and so does everything else.

I don´t know how I missed this topic.

Great work! Thank you very much...

 Byte wrote:

 SlaveToDorkness wrote:
Units inside transports can score again.

Transports score without units and so does everything else.

Guess it only applies to Objective Secured then.

Troop transports get Objective Secured.

No more precision strike/shots for characters (or I'm missing it)
Bikes and cav can move up ruins

You're missing where I listed the precision shot thing.

Interesting on the bikes though

Stubborn is no longer a reroll, just ignores all penalties to leadership checks.

 RFHolloway wrote:
Stubborn is no longer a reroll, just ignores all penalties to leadership checks.

... Stubborn wasn't a reroll in 6th either. And I don't think it was in 5th.

 RFHolloway wrote:
Stubborn is no longer a reroll, just ignores all penalties to leadership checks.

You must be a guard/Space army player(or often face one) The Commissar is the model that usually give them Stubborn, and also allows for rerolls after executing a model(both can be combined to basically never have to shift a unit what with the rerollable always Ld 9)

Who thought Stubborn was a re-roll? Really? Sister's characters have Stubborn too. So does Lysander. It's not that rare, or hard to read the rulebook.

Barrage also do not only hit the top level of ruins anymore