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Did anyone else notice supplemental Codexes are considered the same "Faction" as their main Codexes, and can therefore be mixed into a single detachment?

Would this AM list that uses MT as troops another user made be legal?

HQ
Pask, 2 Vanquishers, lascannons - 290
Tank Commander, 2 Executioners, plasma sponsons - 400

TROOP
Scions, 2 melta - 90
Scions, 2 melta - 90
Scions, 2 melta - 90
10 Scions, 2 plasma - 160
10 Scions - 130
10 Scions - 130

HEAVY SUPPORT
2 Wyverns - 130
Manticore - 170
Manticore - 170

Everything is legal.

Yep, it sure looks like that is completely okay.

Supplements count as being the same faction as their parent codex, and the combined arms detachment just has a restriction about having to include units from the same faction.

Except that MT codex isn't a supplement, it's listed as another codex.

Pg 118, second paragraph under Factions says "In the case of older publications, the Faction of all the units described in the codex is the same as the codex's title." So the faction for Scions as Troop choices is Militarum Tempestus, not Astra Militarum.

This does lead to some interesting mixes with SM as it looks like you can mix Clan Raukaan and standard Iron Hands units in the same detachment, same for Sentinels of Terra and standard Imperial Fists.

 CrashCanuck wrote:
Except that MT codex isn't a supplement, it's listed as another codex.

Pg 118, second paragraph under Factions says "In the case of older publications, the Faction of all the units described in the codex is the same as the codex's title." So the faction for Scions as Troop choices is Militarum Tempestus, not Astra Militarum.

This does lead to some interesting mixes with SM as it looks like you can mix Clan Raukaan and standard Iron Hands units in the same detachment, same for Sentinels of Terra and standard Imperial Fists.

Hmmm, very good point.

I wonder why MT wasn't listed as a separate faction in the new rulebook?

Probably the same reason Legion of the Damned isn't and they have their own codex as well.

 CrashCanuck wrote:
Except that MT codex isn't a supplement, it's listed as another codex.

Pg 118, second paragraph under Factions says "In the case of older publications, the Faction of all the units described in the codex is the same as the codex's title." So the faction for Scions as Troop choices is Militarum Tempestus, not Astra Militarum.

This does lead to some interesting mixes with SM as it looks like you can mix Clan Raukaan and standard Iron Hands units in the same detachment, same for Sentinels of Terra and standard Imperial Fists.

Thank you, i saw this, and wondered the same thing. GW has a separate secion for the MT, so it's definitely a standalone codex

Yeah but if I handed out a copy of Farsight Enclaves and a copy of Legion of the Damned to a player and denied him access to the GW website, how the heck would he know which one is a standalone codex and which one merely a supplement?

Arguably the Farsight Enclaves looks far more like a standalone than the LotD and just using GW shopping cart army sections on their website to judge which are standalone and which are supplements is a bit weird, if you ask me.

 Sir Arun wrote:
Yeah but if I handed out a copy of Farsight Enclaves and a copy of Legion of the Damned to a player and denied him access to the GW website, how the heck would he know which one is a standalone codex and which one merely a supplement?

Arguably the Farsight Enclaves looks far more like a standalone than the LotD.

The big difference is that the supplements say they are supplements on them, AND They actually reference the parent codex in their 'rules'.

Codexes are completely stand-alone. If they have all the rules for the units/weapons/etc, in them and don't reference a parent codex, then they're a standalone codex and their own faction.

I'm the OP for the army list (in the other forum), and I suspect the same thing. Farsight Enclaves says it's a Supplement on the cover; Militarum Tempestus is labeled as a Codex. I think I had the wrong of it.

pick minimal troops in Pask's CAD and get another CAD with MT

Yeah, I can. I was excited about skipping Vets entirely and potentially deep striking all my troops.