Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

Hmmm... they still didn't address exactly how marked CSM psykers generate their powers. Blue scribes got a huge buff. GKs, apparently, will be getting predators and whirlwinds in their next codex.

I'm kinda disappointed, but until an FAQ comes out for the core book I'll play as best I can.

Just looking through some random things, GK's Aegis seems to be interesting, rerolling 1's on DTW rolls.

Hilariously, it looks like Shadow in the Warp has not been addressed at all...

 Pilau Rice wrote:
The Chaos one seems to be a bit light on what has previously been FAQ'd. Can you now shoot the same Obliterator weapon consecutively, what is Lucius Lash of Torment now?

Why would you be able to fire the same weapon consecutively? The codex explicitly forbids it.

Aaaand the Burning Chariot of Tzeentch is still broken, unless there is something in the new rules that I missed.... -_-

chaos0xomega wrote:
Aaaand the Burning Chariot of Tzeentch is still broken, unless there is something in the new rules that I missed.... -_-

Chariots are Relentless now.

Samurai_Eduh wrote:Did Broodlords just become synapse creatures? Dominion gives you synapse now if you didnt alreay have it. So if that is the Tyranid primaris, Broodlords became synapse.

Only if you actually manifest Dominion. If you use the Horror, you stay non synapse. That's a neat change for Broodlords. I mean, they still are way too expensive and genestealers are still way too fragile, but it's a nice buff regardless.

a fat guy wrote:Can Orks only summon Daemons now, or am I reading it wrong?

They can also use Sanctic to banish daemons and buff. What really, really sucks, is that Orks only have access to disciplines in which they perils on ANY double, because they're not GK/CD. Fun frelling times, although, did anyone really take Weirdboyz to begin with?

Edit: Oh, and frell GW for taking away Zogwort's Curse. Why in the crap would you EVER field him now? That was pretty much all he had going for him over a regular Weirdboy.

Power Field Generators in scoring land raiders, good times.

Looks like they finally clarified how Void Shields work against blasts and templates.

I'm confused as to why they felt the need to add an extra unit to the Chaos Daemons codex. Was anyone demanding to field exalted flamers on 'foot'?

Looks like Necrons get some anti-psyker love. Gloom prisms for Spyders give a +2 bonus to DTW rolls

I am sad that my Heldrakes have been hit with the nerf bat.


Yes, I know I am defending those horrible machines, but they were all I had left..

 streamdragon wrote:

Samurai_Eduh wrote:Did Broodlords just become synapse creatures? Dominion gives you synapse now if you didnt alreay have it. So if that is the Tyranid primaris, Broodlords became synapse.

Only if you actually manifest Dominion. If you use the Horror, you stay non synapse. That's a neat change for Broodlords. I mean, they still are way too expensive and genestealers are still way too fragile, but it's a nice buff regardless.

a fat guy wrote:Can Orks only summon Daemons now, or am I reading it wrong?

They can also use Sanctic to banish daemons and buff. What really, really sucks, is that Orks only have access to disciplines in which they perils on ANY double, because they're not GK/CD. Fun frelling times, although, did anyone really take Weirdboyz to begin with?

Edit: Oh, and frell GW for taking away Zogwort's Curse. Why in the crap would you EVER field him now? That was pretty much all he had going for him over a regular Weirdboy.

It's a stopgap, we have like 2 weeks till a new codex

Hmmm...with multiple detachments allowed now, seems the Stronghold Siege War attacker and defender detachments may get some use now?

Edit: NM, they may be only for the special scenarios?

Leerjawise wrote:

 streamdragon wrote:

Samurai_Eduh wrote:Did Broodlords just become synapse creatures? Dominion gives you synapse now if you didnt alreay have it. So if that is the Tyranid primaris, Broodlords became synapse.

Only if you actually manifest Dominion. If you use the Horror, you stay non synapse. That's a neat change for Broodlords. I mean, they still are way too expensive and genestealers are still way too fragile, but it's a nice buff regardless.

a fat guy wrote:Can Orks only summon Daemons now, or am I reading it wrong?

They can also use Sanctic to banish daemons and buff. What really, really sucks, is that Orks only have access to disciplines in which they perils on ANY double, because they're not GK/CD. Fun frelling times, although, did anyone really take Weirdboyz to begin with?

Edit: Oh, and frell GW for taking away Zogwort's Curse. Why in the crap would you EVER field him now? That was pretty much all he had going for him over a regular Weirdboy.

It's a stopgap, we have like 2 weeks till a new codex

I'm aware. They couldn't let us have Zogwort's Curse for 2 weeks? All it would take is "Replace text with (insert new psychic power description format here)"!

OTOH, Orks can now summon S: D vortexes to deal with heavy armor I guess!

 welshhoppo wrote:
I am sad that my Heldrakes have been hit with the nerf bat.


Yes, I know I am defending those horrible machines, but they were all I had left..

How is it being hit with a nerf bat? Any fighter jet in real life would have a similar arc of fire.I appreciate it's a Daemon but it still has to look where it's going whilst flying lol.

The new nid 'dex is a joke, right? Just make sure

Glad we finally have a tyranid FAQ, despite it being only one page!

Also bare in mind for Zogwort, from what I've heard (see Orky rumour thread), he's actually gone completely in the new book. Not 100% certain on that but it would make sense.

Other things of note in the FAQ is that anything in the Ork dex with a bracket T value uses it instead of the base value for everything. That means T6 ork boss on bike Tankbustas now need a valid target in sight AND in range to use Glory Hogs rule, otherwise they're fine. Some units lost their Waaagh! rule. Oh and Under Ghazz's Waaagh!, Slow and Purposeful models become Relentless. Hello monster-meganobz

 Juvieus Kaine wrote:
Also bare in mind for Zogwort, from what I've heard (see Orky rumour thread), he's actually gone completely in the new book. Not 100% certain on that but it would make sense.

Other things of note is that anything in the Ork dex with a bracket T value uses it instead of the base value for everything. That means T6 ork boss on bike Tankbustas now need a valid target in sight AND in range to use Glory Hogs rule, otherwise they're fine. Some units lost their Waaagh! rule. Oh and Under Ghazz's Waaagh!, Slow and Purposeful models become Relentless. Hello monster-meganobz

Most of that was already in the FAQ, FYI. Especially the T thing. And I'm sad to see Ole Zogwort go, if/when he is indeed gone from the Codex. Holding out hope that rumor isn't true! Who doesn't love turning your opponent's big bad into an angry squig?

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 welshhoppo wrote:
I am sad that my Heldrakes have been hit with the nerf bat.


Yes, I know I am defending those horrible machines, but they were all I had left..

How is it being hit with a nerf bat? Any fighter jet in real life would have a similar arc of fire.I appreciate it's a Daemon but it still has to look where it's going whilst flying lol.

It could have been spouting the flames from its daemonic arse...

But not anymore!

This is the death of realism!

No FAQs for Inquisition? I take they're just an offshoot of GKs and I'll use their FAQ instead... But still, dammit, GW!

 streamdragon wrote:

 Juvieus Kaine wrote:
Also bare in mind for Zogwort, from what I've heard (see Orky rumour thread), he's actually gone completely in the new book. Not 100% certain on that but it would make sense.

Other things of note is that anything in the Ork dex with a bracket T value uses it instead of the base value for everything. That means T6 ork boss on bike Tankbustas now need a valid target in sight AND in range to use Glory Hogs rule, otherwise they're fine. Some units lost their Waaagh! rule. Oh and Under Ghazz's Waaagh!, Slow and Purposeful models become Relentless. Hello monster-meganobz

Most of that was already in the FAQ, FYI. Especially the T thing. And I'm sad to see Ole Zogwort go, if/when he is indeed gone from the Codex. Holding out hope that rumor isn't true! Who doesn't love turning your opponent's big bad into an angry squig?

Yeah I meant in the FAQ, made a post adjustment.

And yeah we're gonna miss Ol' Zogwort and his ability to reduce any superman into a rabid mouth on legs Assuming he goes, of course

It's amusing that some people were getting wound up about there being no FAQ updates on release of 7th. Now the holiday weekend is over *ping* there they are. Panic over lol

 Juvieus Kaine wrote:

 streamdragon wrote:

 Juvieus Kaine wrote:
Also bare in mind for Zogwort, from what I've heard (see Orky rumour thread), he's actually gone completely in the new book. Not 100% certain on that but it would make sense.

Other things of note is that anything in the Ork dex with a bracket T value uses it instead of the base value for everything. That means T6 ork boss on bike Tankbustas now need a valid target in sight AND in range to use Glory Hogs rule, otherwise they're fine. Some units lost their Waaagh! rule. Oh and Under Ghazz's Waaagh!, Slow and Purposeful models become Relentless. Hello monster-meganobz

Most of that was already in the FAQ, FYI. Especially the T thing. And I'm sad to see Ole Zogwort go, if/when he is indeed gone from the Codex. Holding out hope that rumor isn't true! Who doesn't love turning your opponent's big bad into an angry squig?

Yeah I meant in the FAQ, made a post adjustment.

And yeah we're gonna miss Ol' Zogwort and his ability to reduce any superman into a rabid mouth on legs Assuming he goes, of course

Not that I have ever used him in a fight, but considering we have a model for him, it'd be sad to see him go. I'm highly dubious that they'll remove him. It'd be a little odd with 7th Edition's new focus on Psykers to remove the only special character Psyker that we have in the new codex.

Also of note, in case you care... they FAQed Zogwart to take away his power, and give him Demonology.

They did NOT FAQ him to actually give him a Ballistic Skill (he is still Ballistic Skill 0) so he's unable to actually use any Witchfire powers.

 angelofvengeance wrote:
It's amusing that some people were getting wound up about there being no FAQ updates on release of 7th. Now the holiday weekend is over *ping* there they are. Panic over lol

A non-slowed company would have them there on day 1 so that some armies would have been playable over the weekend!

Also if it's a holiday weekend did some poor sod have to work over the weekend to finish this stuff? If no then why weren't they released earlier. It's funny how this company is so slow. In the head. With obvious things.

 streamdragon wrote:

Samurai_Eduh wrote:Did Broodlords just become synapse creatures? Dominion gives you synapse now if you didnt alreay have it. So if that is the Tyranid primaris, Broodlords became synapse.

Only if you actually manifest Dominion. If you use the Horror, you stay non synapse. That's a neat change for Broodlords. I mean, they still are way too expensive and genestealers are still way too fragile, but it's a nice buff regardless.

With psychic focus you automatically get dominion now. In fact all nid psychers do. This is actually a huge buff for nids.

BA Rhino chassis vehicles no longer fast (except Baal predator).

Wow....sucks for both my BA armies and the SW...love my RPs...

Guess its onto the psyker table for me. I haven't used any of them, then again I have been on a 40k hiatus.

I will miss my Jaws and Blood Lance...and murderous hurricane..ugh

Out of the three armies I play:

Blood Angels: Nothing earth-shattering. Losing all their powers basically renders Mephiston unplayable until there's a new book. A 250 point CC monster with no jump pack really kills his potential.

Was hoping they'd come to their senses on how stupid Dante's ax is, but oh well.

Dark Eldar: Nothing new or earth shattering.

Grey Knights: Really didn't expect Draigo would be able to roll for his powers, that's a nice surprise.

Purifiers coming default with "Cleansing flame" make them the go-to option against horde armies.

The change to the aegis makes it MUCH better than it was previously, but I was semi-hoping it would give them adamantium will (but that would probably be broken).

Murrdox wrote:

 Juvieus Kaine wrote:

 streamdragon wrote:

 Juvieus Kaine wrote:
Also bare in mind for Zogwort, from what I've heard (see Orky rumour thread), he's actually gone completely in the new book. Not 100% certain on that but it would make sense.

Other things of note is that anything in the Ork dex with a bracket T value uses it instead of the base value for everything. That means T6 ork boss on bike Tankbustas now need a valid target in sight AND in range to use Glory Hogs rule, otherwise they're fine. Some units lost their Waaagh! rule. Oh and Under Ghazz's Waaagh!, Slow and Purposeful models become Relentless. Hello monster-meganobz

Most of that was already in the FAQ, FYI. Especially the T thing. And I'm sad to see Ole Zogwort go, if/when he is indeed gone from the Codex. Holding out hope that rumor isn't true! Who doesn't love turning your opponent's big bad into an angry squig?

Yeah I meant in the FAQ, made a post adjustment.

And yeah we're gonna miss Ol' Zogwort and his ability to reduce any superman into a rabid mouth on legs Assuming he goes, of course

Not that I have ever used him in a fight, but considering we have a model for him, it'd be sad to see him go. I'm highly dubious that they'll remove him. It'd be a little odd with 7th Edition's new focus on Psykers to remove the only special character Psyker that we have in the new codex.

Also of note, in case you care... they FAQed Zogwart to take away his power, and give him Demonology.

They did NOT FAQ him to actually give him a Ballistic Skill (he is still Ballistic Skill 0) so he's unable to actually use any Witchfire powers.

Wait... there is a zogwort model? I've never seen one

 angelofvengeance wrote:
It's amusing that some people were getting wound up about there being no FAQ updates on release of 7th. Now the holiday weekend is over *ping* there they are. Panic over lol

In fairness, scheduling an update for a website in advance is about as easy a thing as Internet stuff gets, assuming they were finished by home time on Friday, they could have been scheduled to upload Saturday 0.00, when the digital rulebook also become available to download.

What annoys me about the removal of the BA and SW powers is that (and especially as GW are all about the aesthetics of the game these days) is that two of the more 'unique', marine armies are losing what makes the more unique than regular marines. Personally as a wolves player it also doesn't fit there back ground, the rune priests powers are meant to shamanistic manifestations of the planet and the wolves spirit. So I do hope that with the release of the New codex's for both armies they gain some of this back.

Looks like I'm not going to playing until the new book codex comes out (namely as I'm not willing to spend the cash on the new rule book rather than being stroppy about losing my powers)

Young Logan