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 ClockworkZion wrote:
Lastly I'd up the ornateness of the Eviscarator. Maybe incorporating the Aquila into it so the casing looks like a wing, or maybe the Ecclesiarchy symbol, or an ornate casing of some kind (like those panels that come in the Immolator kit). It just strikes me as something that should really be eye catching and possibly come in several different designs as they sound like the sort of things that should look like pieces of art.

I dunno, I think I like the Eviscerators being kinda plain. Suits the idea that they're penitents who have left their Order and are seeking redemption. It also makes a nice little contrast to the usual ornateness of the rest of the Sisters.

 Furyou Miko wrote:
Perhaps... perhaps not.

I don't get to play the mysterious trickster often, so I might be getting a little free with my information. >>

Can you give an approximate timescale of the Centurion art commission and release?

 Troike wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Lastly I'd up the ornateness of the Eviscarator. Maybe incorporating the Aquila into it so the casing looks like a wing, or maybe the Ecclesiarchy symbol, or an ornate casing of some kind (like those panels that come in the Immolator kit). It just strikes me as something that should really be eye catching and possibly come in several different designs as they sound like the sort of things that should look like pieces of art.

I dunno, I think I like the Eviscerators being kinda plain. Suits the idea that they're penitents who have left their Order and are seeking redemption. It also makes a nice little contrast to the usual ornateness of the rest of the Sisters.

Eviscerators aren't only used by the Repentia though (or at least they didn't used to be), so the ornateness makes sense. Plus it adds something visually catching on a model dressed in rags.

I think they should just be completely naked, posed with their arms reaching high into the air.

Their private parts should be covered by swirls of fire, because family friendly.

 BlaxicanX wrote:
I think they should just be completely naked, posed with their arms reaching high into the air.

Their private parts should be covered by swirls of fire, because family friendly.

Yeah, how about no.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Eviscerators aren't only used by the Repentia though (or at least they didn't used to be), so the ornateness makes sense. Plus it adds something visually catching on a model dressed in rags.

Though that's not to say that the Repentia can't be using different looking ones to other Imperial forces.

I just think that a more simplistic desing suits them better, so as to emphasise how apart they are from the other Sisters. I also think that their geneal look is already eye-catching enough, in how it gets across the idea of them being penitents as well as how different they look to the rest of the army.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 BlaxicanX wrote:
I think they should just be completely naked, posed with their arms reaching high into the air.

Their private parts should be covered by swirls of fire, because family friendly.

Yeah, how about no.

My idea's better than your idea m8. Everyone would buy a flaming, naked penitent.

 BlaxicanX wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 BlaxicanX wrote:
I think they should just be completely naked, posed with their arms reaching high into the air.

Their private parts should be covered by swirls of fire, because family friendly.

Yeah, how about no.

My idea's better than your idea m8. Everyone would buy a flaming, naked penitent.

And I'd have to bathe in bleach to remove the taint of ever associating myself with such an army.

Honestly I wouldn't care what the penitent looked like if GW finally gave sisters a full update.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 BlaxicanX wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 BlaxicanX wrote:
I think they should just be completely naked, posed with their arms reaching high into the air.

Their private parts should be covered by swirls of fire, because family friendly.

Yeah, how about no.

My idea's better than your idea m8. Everyone would buy a flaming, naked penitent.

And I'd have to bathe in bleach to remove the taint of ever associating myself with such an army.

Sounds like you're jealous you didn't come up with it first.

 BlaxicanX wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 BlaxicanX wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 BlaxicanX wrote:
I think they should just be completely naked, posed with their arms reaching high into the air.

Their private parts should be covered by swirls of fire, because family friendly.

Yeah, how about no.

My idea's better than your idea m8. Everyone would buy a flaming, naked penitent.

And I'd have to bathe in bleach to remove the taint of ever associating myself with such an army.

Sounds like you're jealous you didn't come up with it first.

No, I'm really not. I don't play Sisters because of the sex appeal or the boobs or because they're girls. I play them because I like their concept as an army and it's something that plays and feels different on the table from other armies. I mean the only other close range shooting army that falls under the "almost everything is 24" or less" is Grey Knights and they can brings some pretty decent toys to make them better in close combat.

Plus hoards of power armor is always fun to me.

What is the concept of the army that you enjoy?

I like the Joan of Arc feel that the army has.

Yeah, Joan of Arc, albeit minus the... lack of ever killing anyone or actual fighting.

 BlaxicanX wrote:
What is the concept of the army that you enjoy?

A parody of Catholosism mixed with Faith so strong it allows them to keep fighting through wounds that would kill a normal person. Their Holy Trinity being 3 kinds of weapons and the possibility that their religious devotion might be fueling the Emperor to becoming a kind of power of Chaos in his own right also adds to it.

And I'm sure someone could explain it better, but basically take a Space Marine. Now strip out all the modifications, hypno-theraphy, and fear supression. But leave the same level of badassery and you have an army of normal humans who are agueably even more badass than the Marines themselves just because they don't need all that extra stuff to get gak done. Just Faith and a Bolt Gun.

"Faith is my armour"

"Zeal is my weapon"

"Prayer shields my mind"

Woe be to the heretic, the witch and the mutant for we are the Adepta Sororitas the Emperors Brides and it is our scared duty to purge the taint, the rot and the weak from Humanity. We bring light to those who have faith and death to apostates who threaten the domain of man. We will never falter in our duty. We will never stop. We will succeed for we serve the Emperor and he is with us.

Seriously who doesn't like an army made up of crazy female navy seals nuns who evangelize with the barrel of a gun. They are such zealots and extremists that they get their arm blown off by a lascannon only to keep pushing forward because they are so insane and dogmatic to care. I also like duality of them being seen as pious and pure by Imperials citizens but in realty they are a major form of social control who suppress humanity.

 BlaxicanX wrote:
I think they should just be completely naked, posed with their arms reaching high into the air.

Their private parts should be covered by swirls of fire, because family friendly.

No. No swirl of fire, because that makes no freaking sense, and seriously, why cares about family friendly on models that are supposed to be nightmare fuel! Having them naked is not a problem though if they are sufficiently repulsive and horrible that they do not feel sexy. For instance, I would rather they have naked but ugly/flat unsexy breasts than the big, full, only slightly covered in a tantalizing way that they have now.
Also needs more horrible self-mutilations.
Basically, I would like them to look more like in the artwork I posted above:

Let the kingdom of the death guy design the new SOB that would get the locals riled even more!

No. Not Potts.Too many pin-ups and blatant pandering to let him anywhere near the Sisters. However, he could do very fine for Chaos monsters, as long as he stays out of mortal champions and too humanoid daemons. His monster are neat.

Sexualised male models.

Space Marine Scouts (they don't wear cups...)

Marbo (take a look at them pythons!)

Astorath (forget nipple armour, can you say abdominal clenches? Yes you can!)

While we're at it, just take a look at Jarran Kell's chin! No-one's got a swell chin like Jarran.

The difference is that most of the fanbase isn't really equipped to recognise sexualisation in male miniatures. :p

I just wish people could get over it. 40k is sexy. Can we move on please?

Edit: Oh, and I forgot to answer. The turnaround on the boxes for the Centurians was about 6 months.

I like the simplicity of the Eviscerator, and wouldn't object to Oxy's vision of the Repentia. Heck, you don't need some ridicusilly 'swirl of fire'. Parchment nailed over the naughty bits is just fine. Then again, I don't believe that nudity is any more sinful or un-12A than tearing people apart with a giant chainsaw, so...

Laurell Hamilton may have been full of gak (we all know she really just wanted to sell more books) when she said she was including sex in her books because not doing so was hypocritical when she had people dying everywhere, but the words themselves have merit.

 Furyou Miko wrote:
Space Marine Scouts (they don't wear cups...)

What do you mean they do not wear cups ? If you are speaking about their groins, it is clearly painted as some kind of solid piece of armor on the official paintjob :
http://www.games-workshop.com/en-SE/Space-Marine-Scouts
I am not sure about what you mean.

 Furyou Miko wrote:
Marbo (take a look at them pythons!)

Not sure about what you mean either. What do you mean by python? Is that some English, or British slang that I do not know?

 Furyou Miko wrote:
Astorath (forget nipple armour, can you say abdominal clenches? Yes you can!)

Okay, I give you that most of the Blood Angel-specific miniatures are quite sexualized . I forgot about them.

 Furyou Miko wrote:
The difference is that most of the fanbase isn't really equipped to recognise sexualisation in male miniatures. :p

Well, let us be honest, it is not as obvious and blatant as with many female miniature (except for the BA). There is no nipple armor (except BA ) or nipple piercing or ass windows, but there is boob-plate and chainmail bikini. And 40k is relatively light on them, but other miniatures…

 Furyou Miko wrote:
I like the simplicity of the Eviscerator, and wouldn't object to Oxy's vision of the Repentia. Heck, you don't need some ridicusilly 'swirl of fire'. Parchment nailed over the naughty bits is just fine.

Then can even do the same stupid Barbie Doll anatomy as they did with the Exalted C'tan, since they seem to think it is okay. And before someone tells me the C'tan is some magical being that is not human, let me mention that :
- horses are not magical being but usually get the barbie doll anatomy treatment, to a general indifference (or they are all female or something), and
- some magical being that is not human having exactly the same body shape as a muscled human male except for the dangling bit is just every bit as stupid as “Repentia do not have vaginas because MIRACLE FROM THE EMPEROR.”. If you are willing to accept one explanation, just accept the other too .

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

Not sure about what you mean either. What do you mean by python? Is that some English, or British slang that I do not know?

Pythons are usually slang for referring to one's muscular arms



I think the Scouts part was more of a joke, implying they are just 'naturally gifted' rather than wearing cups.

Not entirely sure that it really equates the way Furyou Miko says, as i think it is a bit of a case of False Equivalence between the Cheese Cake vs Beef Cake, as they are both predominately male fantasies (Lust and Power respectively.)
That said, I agree with the parchment over plain nudity. It breaks up the model, allows for a visible sign of the Protection of the Emperor in the form of scrolls (dammit i am not tattooing every damn Repentia all over their bodies)

I also agree that there should be a Repentia Class Evisorator that is nice and plain, good and sturdy and can be picked up off the battlefield after they die, and then a mastercrafted version, I do like the idea of the Aquilla wing, that are given to honoured members of the Ecc like priests and such.

If Sisters of Battle looked more like the artwork they'd be the best looking 40k army. They're the most grimdark people in grimdarkland.

Penitents should be emaciated, bleeding from self inflicted wounds and burns, disrobed, and have religious iconography and texts nailed into their skin. Like the artwork. They're self tortured fanatics on their last mission. They should be like Lone Wolves, you should benefit from them dying.

They look better with more believably sized swords though. Again like in the art.

I would argue that the Bloodwrack Medusa has demonstrated that GW is still not opposed to limited amounts of feminine nudity. They redesigned the Daemonettes because they legitimately did not intend them to be sexy or feminine, but instead scary demon hermaphrodites. Likewise Dark Elf Witches are deliberately clothed. Penitents may or may not be.

I have to agree if sisters looked anything like there artwork they would be an amazing looking army. I hope they get a codex soon but I still don't understand, are they not the militant arm of ordo hereticus. Games Workshop could include them in an inquisition book along with ordo malleus and the grey knights and ordo xenos and deathwatch. That would be an amazing codex. Each inquisitor opens up whatever options for there order. Lots of models and lots of versatility plus would be a blast to field for narratives. This would give sisters a huge bump to being used more as well.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
No. Not Potts.Too many pin-ups and blatant pandering to let him anywhere near the Sisters. However, he could do very fine for Chaos monsters, as long as he stays out of mortal champions and too humanoid daemons. His monster are neat.

It would still be better than if GW got Pegaso to do the SOB miniatures

 Vain wrote:
Not entirely sure that it really equates the way Furyou Miko says, as i think it is a bit of a case of False Equivalence between the Cheese Cake vs Beef Cake, as they are both predominately male fantasies (Lust and Power respectively.)

Yeah, if muscled was sexy, Hulk (the green guy that transform into Bruce Banner sometime, not Hoggan) would be known as a sex symbol.

 Vain wrote:
That said, I agree with the parchment over plain nudity.

Depends on how it is done. If done wrong, it can actually draw the eye toward the private parts and therefore make miniatures more sexy rather than less sexy. I would not want that.

Thazar wrote:
but I still don't understand, are they not the militant arm of ordo hereticus. Games Workshop could include them in an inquisition book along with ordo malleus and the grey knights and ordo xenos and deathwatch.

That was an excuse that GW pulled out of its hat when they wanted to make one codex per Ordo, during the Inquisitor (the game) craze. It does not bring anything valuable to their fluff, and being merged with specialist marines will just diminish them, as just “Space Marines with a gimmick”…

 sing your life wrote:
It would still be better than if GW got Pegaso to do the SOB miniatures

Who is this guy?

Don't know about you, but I'd love the sisters to be distinctly female. Not necessary chainmail-bikini-naked, but obviously female and good looking too, for that whole bolter-bitches-style. Might be a reason to start a new army for me if they do that.
Power-armored dudes just dont have the same appeal as some fanatic boob-plated pyromaniacs.

What I dislike is the idea of people moaning about some of the sisters models potentially looking sexy.
Jesus christ, if they are female, they might be sexy. What does it matter?
Some of them might be ugly as hell.. who cares?
Just so long as they look bad ass enought to smite everything in their path, it doesn't matter.


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Anyway, I'm fed up of reading 8 pages of the same tosh.
The key thing is wether or not we're going to see sisters any time soon.
I for one, bloody hope so!

 Mij'aan wrote:
What I dislike is the idea of people moaning about some of the sisters models potentially looking sexy.
Jesus christ, if they are female, they might be sexy. What does it matter?
Some of them might be ugly as hell.. who cares?
Just so long as they look bad ass enought to smite everything in their path, it doesn't matter.

I don't care if they end up looking a bit like eye candy as long as we're not delving into "intentional pinup" territory. The second Sisters start sticking their ass out or trying to emphasize their chests and look seductive is when the army becomes an attempt to get horny kids to buy them and a clear design that the devs aren't taking them even somewhat seriously anymore.

So yeah, sexy is fine as long as it doesn't go into needlessly pandering territory.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 sing your life wrote:
It would still be better than if GW got Pegaso to do the SOB miniatures

Who is this guy?

They're a Large-scale company, it seems like their female models having covered genitals is the exception, not the rule.