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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/29 19:32:23
Subject: So what exactly is so important about the Black Library?
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Yes yes i know - "Black Library of Chaos" - secrets of the Eldar, etc. etc. I get the generalized section of the Fluff on it.
But well.... what exactly is the Black Library's utility to the Eldar? Its not like the "secrets of Chaos" bit has actually helped much since the Fall.
If anything - gathering all those artifacts and books together kinda puts a gigantic bullseye on the place for Chaos sorcerers like Ahriman or Radical Inquisitors.
The Library seems more like a Quarantine for Really Dangerous Things (which probably should be destroyed)... than anything else...
Or am I missing a piece of data about the place.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/29 19:54:24
Subject: So what exactly is so important about the Black Library?
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Leader of the Sept
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There is still live smallpox held in government (i.e. military) research institutions. Sometimes its deemed necessary to keep the dangerous stuff on hand in case you need it in the future.
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Please excuse any spelling errors. I use a tablet frequently and software keyboards are a pain!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/29 20:13:33
Subject: So what exactly is so important about the Black Library?
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Keeper of the Holy Orb of Antioch
avoiding the lorax on Crion
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The most comprehensive library of information on everything about chaos.
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Sgt. Vanden - OOC Hey, that was your doing. I didn't choose to fly in the "Dongerprise'.
"May the odds be ever in your favour"
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
I have no clue how Dakka's moderation work. I expect it involves throwing a lot of d100 and looking at many random tables.
FudgeDumper - It could be that you are just so uncomfortable with the idea of your chapters primarch having his way with a docile tyranid spore cyst, that you must deny they have any feelings at all. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/29 20:15:19
Subject: Re:So what exactly is so important about the Black Library?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Also, Ahriman can try getting in all he wants. If Cegorach says no, he's not getting in. And the best Harlequins are at least on par with the likes of Lelith Hesperax.
Space clowns are scary yo.
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Midnightdeathblade wrote:Think of a daemon incursion like a fart you don't quite trust... you could either toot a little puff of air, bellow a great effluvium, or utterly sh*t your pants and cry as it floods down your leg.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/29 20:25:58
Subject: So what exactly is so important about the Black Library?
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Keeper of the Holy Orb of Antioch
avoiding the lorax on Crion
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+ the guardians I believe as well, elite guards of the library.
They will not let that fall to chaos at any price.
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Sgt. Vanden - OOC Hey, that was your doing. I didn't choose to fly in the "Dongerprise'.
"May the odds be ever in your favour"
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
I have no clue how Dakka's moderation work. I expect it involves throwing a lot of d100 and looking at many random tables.
FudgeDumper - It could be that you are just so uncomfortable with the idea of your chapters primarch having his way with a docile tyranid spore cyst, that you must deny they have any feelings at all. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/29 20:33:20
Subject: So what exactly is so important about the Black Library?
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Fixture of Dakka
Temple Prime
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jhe90 wrote:+ the guardians I believe as well, elite guards of the library.
They will not let that fall to chaos at any price.
Honestly, most Chaos Lords wouldn't get two steps before they got slaughtered.
And given Abaddon's performance against Eldrad and the far less defended Seer council of Ulthwe, I'd say even he would get sent packing.
If Cegorach gets involved...well the Chaos Gods are going to have to find a new champion.
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Midnightdeathblade wrote:Think of a daemon incursion like a fart you don't quite trust... you could either toot a little puff of air, bellow a great effluvium, or utterly sh*t your pants and cry as it floods down your leg.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/29 20:37:39
Subject: So what exactly is so important about the Black Library?
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Ancient Venerable Dark Angels Dreadnought
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Surprisingly, it's actually pretty useful to have a large source of information to educate and aid in combating the eldritch abomination gods that at trying to devour the universe and claim the souls of every living thing. Shocking really. It makes one also question why America would ever wish to spy on Soviet nuke programs during the Cold War, or why China conducts corporate espionage on powerful foreign businesses.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/29 20:39:32
Subject: Re:So what exactly is so important about the Black Library?
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Stitch Counter
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I don't see what the big deal is with the Black Library, you can download it all using the app store without even having to enter the webway
Personally I think the Black Library is just Slaanesh's porn collection that his older brother Cegorach stole and hid away until he plays nice
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Thousand Sons: 3850pts / Space Marines Deathwatch 5000pts / Dark Eldar Webway Corsairs 2000pts / Scrapheap Challenged Orks 1500pts / Black Death 1500pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/29 20:58:05
Subject: Re:So what exactly is so important about the Black Library?
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Morphing Obliterator
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Information is power.
Wulfmar wrote:I don't see what the big deal is with the Black Library, you can download it all using the app store without even having to enter the webway
Personally I think the Black Library is just Slaanesh's porn collection that his older brother Cegorach stole and hid away until he plays nice
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‘Your warriors will stand down and withdraw, Curze. That is an order, not a request. (…) When this campaign is won, you and I will have words’
Rogal Dorn, just before taking the beating of his life.
from The Dark King, by Graham McNeill.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/29 21:30:02
Subject: So what exactly is so important about the Black Library?
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Keeper of the Holy Orb of Antioch
avoiding the lorax on Crion
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Kain wrote:jhe90 wrote:+ the guardians I believe as well, elite guards of the library.
They will not let that fall to chaos at any price.
Honestly, most Chaos Lords wouldn't get two steps before they got slaughtered.
And given Abaddon's performance against Eldrad and the far less defended Seer council of Ulthwe, I'd say even he would get sent packing.
If Cegorach gets involved...well the Chaos Gods are going to have to find a new champion.
If a eldar god gets involved, they may not be chaos god power but you have picked a very powerful enemy to take on. Weakened but very deadly force.
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Sgt. Vanden - OOC Hey, that was your doing. I didn't choose to fly in the "Dongerprise'.
"May the odds be ever in your favour"
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
I have no clue how Dakka's moderation work. I expect it involves throwing a lot of d100 and looking at many random tables.
FudgeDumper - It could be that you are just so uncomfortable with the idea of your chapters primarch having his way with a docile tyranid spore cyst, that you must deny they have any feelings at all. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/30 03:59:44
Subject: So what exactly is so important about the Black Library?
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Plus, I really doubt any of the "gods" really have any power to directly interfere, and if the webway is an exception... well, Cegorach's gonna have a rough go, since Slaanesh alone could kill him...if only he could get his hands on the slippery little bastard!
Let alone his 3 older, less flamboyant brothers...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/30 04:37:14
Subject: So what exactly is so important about the Black Library?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Fos Kenos wrote:Plus, I really doubt any of the "gods" really have any power to directly interfere, and if the webway is an exception... well, Cegorach's gonna have a rough go, since Slaanesh alone could kill him...if only he could get his hands on the slippery little bastard!
Let alone his 3 older, less flamboyant brothers...
Cegorach repeatedly humiliates Slaanesh.
And none of the other gods really like each other enough to help each other out unless there is a direct threat to their existence.
If Slaanesh is going to fail epically, Khorne's reaction would likely to be to take a lawn chair and cheer the other guy on.
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Midnightdeathblade wrote:Think of a daemon incursion like a fart you don't quite trust... you could either toot a little puff of air, bellow a great effluvium, or utterly sh*t your pants and cry as it floods down your leg.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/30 08:46:26
Subject: So what exactly is so important about the Black Library?
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Alluring Sorcerer of Slaanesh
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Kain wrote:jhe90 wrote:+ the guardians I believe as well, elite guards of the library.
They will not let that fall to chaos at any price.
Honestly, most Chaos Lords wouldn't get two steps before they got slaughtered.
And given Abaddon's performance against Eldrad and the far less defended Seer council of Ulthwe, I'd say even he would get sent packing.
If Cegorach gets involved...well the Chaos Gods are going to have to find a new champion.
Makes you wonder how Draco and his ragtag bunch were able to get.
Cegorach wanted them in?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/30 09:10:52
Subject: So what exactly is so important about the Black Library?
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Fixture of Dakka
Temple Prime
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Pilau Rice wrote: Kain wrote:jhe90 wrote:+ the guardians I believe as well, elite guards of the library.
They will not let that fall to chaos at any price.
Honestly, most Chaos Lords wouldn't get two steps before they got slaughtered.
And given Abaddon's performance against Eldrad and the far less defended Seer council of Ulthwe, I'd say even he would get sent packing.
If Cegorach gets involved...well the Chaos Gods are going to have to find a new champion.
Makes you wonder how Draco and his ragtag bunch were able to get.
Cegorach wanted them in?
The inquisitor?
The Harlequins specifically allowed him in.
The Harlequins don't really mind working with humans (and presumably other species who won't shoot them on sight) as long as they share a common enemy or they feel a lesson can be taught to them. Hence why they do their dances on Imperial Worlds (and the Imperials let them since they don't bother anyone) as well as Eldar ones.
The Space Clowns are scary and weird.
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Midnightdeathblade wrote:Think of a daemon incursion like a fart you don't quite trust... you could either toot a little puff of air, bellow a great effluvium, or utterly sh*t your pants and cry as it floods down your leg.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/30 09:58:16
Subject: So what exactly is so important about the Black Library?
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Alluring Sorcerer of Slaanesh
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Kain wrote:
The inquisitor?
The Harlequins specifically allowed him in.
The Harlequins don't really mind working with humans (and presumably other species who won't shoot them on sight) as long as they share a common enemy or they feel a lesson can be taught to them. Hence why they do their dances on Imperial Worlds (and the Imperials let them since they don't bother anyone) as well as Eldar ones.
The Space Clowns are scary and weird.
It's been awhile since I read it .. but they let him in  I  because he stole the Rhana Dhandra from the Library and used it to warm his house with. That must have some effect as to their outlook on humans.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/30 10:04:14
Subject: So what exactly is so important about the Black Library?
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Fixture of Dakka
Temple Prime
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Pilau Rice wrote: Kain wrote:
The inquisitor?
The Harlequins specifically allowed him in.
The Harlequins don't really mind working with humans (and presumably other species who won't shoot them on sight) as long as they share a common enemy or they feel a lesson can be taught to them. Hence why they do their dances on Imperial Worlds (and the Imperials let them since they don't bother anyone) as well as Eldar ones.
The Space Clowns are scary and weird.
It's been awhile since I read it .. but they let him in  I  because he stole the Rhana Dhandra from the Library and used it to warm his house with. That must have some effect as to their outlook on humans.
There is probably some purpose behind allowing him to take the book, given that the Harlequins have powerful seers of their own.
The Harlequins are about as tolerant and kind (in times of peace) a group as you will ever find in 40k.
They're legitimately nice people from what I've seen who still hold onto the power of love...well laughter/happiness really.
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Midnightdeathblade wrote:Think of a daemon incursion like a fart you don't quite trust... you could either toot a little puff of air, bellow a great effluvium, or utterly sh*t your pants and cry as it floods down your leg.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/30 10:42:59
Subject: So what exactly is so important about the Black Library?
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
The best State-Texas
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That's a lot of intreasting fluff I did not know about the Harelquins.
I'm curious of a modern day reaction to the Necrons. I think the BL has a lot of information about the War in Heaven in it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/30 11:00:50
Subject: So what exactly is so important about the Black Library?
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Fixture of Dakka
Temple Prime
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Sasori wrote:That's a lot of intreasting fluff I did not know about the Harelquins.
I'm curious of a modern day reaction to the Necrons. I think the BL has a lot of information about the War in Heaven in it.
The Harlequins will deploy to face the Necrons as readily as they will Chaos or the Tyranids. There can be no peace with the ancient foe (or soulless ones as they are often called in the Eldar lexicon) and the Eldar predict that unless something is changed; first Chaos will break out of the eye and bring war to the galaxy before eventually burning itself out as the Tyranids reduce the galaxy to a lifeless desert, and then the Necrons will rule an empire of dust until the stars die.
Obviously, they do not want this to happen.
Harlequins were a major component of Farseer Taldeer's strikes intended to silence Necron tomb worlds before they could emerge after all.
In any case, the Black Library essentially contains all the knowledge gathered by the Harlequins and others who have taken up residence there. Virtually all of the Eldar's gathered histories and lore can be found there.
So much knowledge that Ahriman believes it could make him the fifth god of Chaos, and he's not wrong.
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Midnightdeathblade wrote:Think of a daemon incursion like a fart you don't quite trust... you could either toot a little puff of air, bellow a great effluvium, or utterly sh*t your pants and cry as it floods down your leg.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/30 14:04:47
Subject: Re:So what exactly is so important about the Black Library?
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Norn Queen
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I recall reading the BL also contains the location of every webway gate/passage/entrance/exit and general map of the Webway.
Eldar do not anyone getting access to that in any shape or form.
Let alone being able to wipe every Craftworld and Commorragh off the map, it would also allow an enemy force to effectively teleport anywhere in the universe assuming a gate was there.
Think Iconian gateways.....
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Contagion_%28episode%29
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