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For those that backed duel fighters what was your experience with scale? Are happy with how that kickstarter is going?

 Cyporiean wrote:

Caballero Negro wrote:
Excuse me, can anyone tell a KS that made minis in HIPS?? not a big company like GW

Dreamforge Games, Tablescapes, Through the breach, Wild West Exodos.

Thanks looking for them

zreef wrote:
For those that backed duel fighters what was your experience with scale? Are happy with how that kickstarter is going?

Have they delivered them yet?

At any rate,

we are the scum of the earth, apparently


"I'm hoping that Scale Games produces a "troll" model. They could take a survey of the backers and make sure it's awarded to Dakkaites. Hell, I'd buy that as an add on."

zreef wrote:
For those that backed duel fighters what was your experience with scale? Are happy with how that kickstarter is going?

Does anyone have anything from it? It's looking to be 4 months behind schedule.

 cincydooley wrote:
I just backed the project so I can post in the comments section. Grab your popcorn boys.

Is your screen name the same?

 Artemis Black wrote:

zreef wrote:
For those that backed duel fighters what was your experience with scale? Are happy with how that kickstarter is going?

Does anyone have anything from it? It's looking to be 4 months behind schedule.

I do not believe so, I was more curious how they were handling the delay. Having something delayed in it of itself is not a bad thing, but how a company handles the delay can be. So I was curious how those that backed Duel Fighters felt about Scale games and handling an unforeseen hiccup in the kickstarter.

Screen cap of the kickstraq

@Zreef

Was very happy with what I got but sad it didn't get any further. Think 75mm is too much for gamers . My experience with Scale games was positive really willing to listen, change pledges and were their almost everyday answering and listening to backers. Its the reason I came back to back frontiers.

You could probably see that for yourself by just going to the campaign page. Check the last update about how the company dealt with the delay. The delay was only in the mini's as from the update below they had everything else. The only thing to do now is be patient, I'm happy to do that.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/986826251/duel-fighters/posts

LOL you wish Piston

 Piston Honda wrote:

 cincydooley wrote:
I just backed the project so I can post in the comments section. Grab your popcorn boys.

Is your screen name the same?

I figured out the confusion with this comment. The "just" in my comment doesn't mean "only". It means "just now". And no Piston, it's The Irishman there. I'm contemplating changing it so they match because the scale people are assuming I have something to hide. I don't

Yeah, it sounded like you were taunting.

Sorry to see this in such a state, especially as they seemed to be better prepared than many campaigns. If people could understand that the questions are reasonable and it's the table-flipping reactions to the questions that are causing drama it would probably give Scale more time to work things out.

 plastictrees wrote:
Yeah, it sounded like you were taunting.

Sorry to see this in such a state, especially as they seemed to be better prepared than many campaigns. If people could understand that the questions are reasonable and it's the table-flipping reactions to the questions that are causing drama it would probably give Scale more time to work things out.

I mean, aside from the fact that they had no idea what material they were going to use, then yeah. They were totes prepared

Their presentation was good, which is what I was refering to. Great art and painted minis, solid graphics.

Compared to say...Gate of Antares, which admittedly might be an unreasonably low bar.

 plastictrees wrote:
Their presentation was good, which is what I was refering to. Great art and painted minis, solid graphics.

Compared to say...Gate of Antares, which admittedly might be an unreasonably low bar.

Gates of Antares isn't a bar, it's a line in the sand.

I can understand people who are passionate about this as being angry.

But this comment I found disgusting.

"No idea.
This KS has done everything right. So the only reason for people quiting I can think of is because it is not a USA project and some US gamers do not like EU projects"

So, with some of the most notable wargames and miniature companies coming out of Europe (and New Zealand), that are purchased and loved by many American wargamers and probably count for the largest share in revenue, this project is failing because we (Americans) are Xenophobes.

Must be true.

Thank the gods Infinity is a real American game.

Have they really gone resin? I'll have to back this one now.

It's resin until £130K, at which point it becomes HIPS apparently. I love both materials, so can't say I'd have a problem with either.

I just want the thing to actually fund again - the amount of backsliding is really quite worrying! Would be particularly nice if it could reach £100K, as that'll net quite a few nice character models...

 AlexHolker wrote:

 plastictrees wrote:
Their presentation was good, which is what I was refering to. Great art and painted minis, solid graphics.

Compared to say...Gate of Antares, which admittedly might be an unreasonably low bar.

Gates of Antares isn't a bar, it's a line in the sand.

That's just the mark left by the bar that Rick Priestley picked up and took home.

Piston Honda wrote:

zreef wrote:
For those that backed duel fighters what was your experience with scale? Are happy with how that kickstarter is going?

Have they delivered them yet?

At any rate,

we are the scum of the earth, apparently


"I'm hoping that Scale Games produces a "troll" model. They could take a survey of the backers and make sure it's awarded to Dakkaites. Hell, I'd buy that as an add on."

That is neither polite nor considerate. You should report that.

gohkm wrote:Have they really gone resin? I'll have to back this one now.

Yes, 'real' resin - and the sample looks GOOD!

Update #29

Jun 12 2014
Resin production quality
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Hi all.

We hope you have the specifications provided on the material be sufficient to satisfy your curiosity. To avoid confusion we will summarize.

We will not use PVC on our miniatures
If Fallen frontiers ends its campaign with less funding to 130K pounds use resin to produce our figures (as shown in the picture)
If Fallen frontiers reaches 130K Pounds production will be done using HIPS .

Thanks all for your support!

That update should help!

Piston the guy apologised for that comment but seriously you found that comment disgusting?

Being a little dramatastic aren't we.

 Pilgrim_uk wrote:
Piston the guy apologised for that comment but seriously you found that comment disgusting?

Being a little dramatastic aren't we.

Being called a xenophobe? hardly.

Well, apparently that one guy apologized.

Actually, didn't both of them?

If so, yeah, best to forgive and move on, right?

I mean, you've seen that test resin miniature, yes?

Thanks, Alpharius.

what is the worry Kevin Johnson is alluding to about resin production? I have had some dud resin models, but if done well resin is really nice. Also they have experience in resin in their 75mm right? I not sure what the issue is. Is this just more drama people are kicking up or something legitimate that I missed?

Scroll up to read Artemis Black's summary of resin production - it isn't as easy as it sounds, apparently, and especially not in the potential volumes here...

 Alpharius wrote:
Scroll up to read Artemis Black's summary of resin production - it isn't as easy as it sounds, apparently, and especially not in the potential volumes here...

Thank you for the quick response! I just found the worries. I keep waffling on this one ... do you guys think the scenery would be usable with Infinity?

zreef wrote:
what is the worry Kevin Johnson is alluding to about resin production? I have had some dud resin models, but if done well resin is really nice. Also they have experience in resin in their 75mm right? I not sure what the issue is. Is this just more drama people are kicking up or something legitimate that I missed?

I think it has to do with he amount of resin casting this KS needs.

It is a work load. I've done a lot of it when I had to restore some art deco and Victorian era parts as masters for some local mansions. It's a pain in the ass. But assuming they are pros, and they are it should be second nature to them.

The issue arises, with the number of current backs now, how do they expect to deliver on time when their previous KS of 175 people is running late?

Personally, I tack on 3 months to every KS for their estimated deliver date.

It's up to the back to decide. Is quality worth waiting for?

It can't be any longer than relic knights, right?

Ha!

I agree with you there!

It won't be as late, and it won't be as low quality as Relic Knights - not even close!

That resin model doors look fantastic. And while the quantity is high to produce in resin, Prodos games is doing exactly that with their Aliens vs Predator campaign, at a similar price point per model (although granted the models are smaller).

I think sticking with resin is a great idea for them, and hope they fund and are able to do just that.

I've just realized that shipping to Rest of World is 18 GBP - my stars!

This might just kill it for me :(. And I don't even want the box game, just a few of the faction sets.

International post is certainly getting extremely expensive.

Anyone in Oz pledging for this? Can I piggyback my pledge on yours, and we'll split the shipping cost?

Jumped back in. I'd be quite happy with quality resin minis.