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 Reecius wrote:
Yeah, Formations are different than Data Slates.

Ah! It was further down the page, I see:

1 Formation, which will take the place of the Allied Detachment if chosen.

Got it, thanks

But aren't formations called "formation data slates"? I thought they were still dataslates, so didn't think to look further once I saw them mentioned under the CAD heading. Hopefully my confusion helps illustrate what someone else may have and thanks for clarifying for me.

So....The LOW are just giant vehicles or MC. Nothing too bad

By limiting the CAD to 1 and still allowing formations, you basically just allowing some armies to have access to 2 CAD and denying it to others. How is this not making specific allowances? It should be all or nothing 1 CAD and 1 Ally or 2 CAD (one can be a formation).

@RiTies

Yeah, good point, it is a bit confusing now with all the new ways of looking at making armies.

@Magc8Ball

Yeah, once per detachment is still covered. So, you can have one Exarch in your CAD no matter how many sources you draw on.

@Hot Sizzle

Yeah, I think the LoW will be a lot of fun, actually. They will all be giving up VPs as you destroy them, too, so they are a bit of a liability.

@deevil

Not everyone will be happy with every aspect of the format. That is 7th in a nutshell, though. Everyone is going to have to accept that compromise is inherent in this edition.

We are trying to stay as close to the book as we can. Not every faction has formations yet, but, those that do can essentially "ally" with themselves, yes. I assume more formations will be coming out for other factions in time.

Most of the Formations have "tax" units anyway, or honestly aren't that good. Those that are good (mostly Nids and Tau) are fine IMO as those armies have few (if any) ally options. Plus, Formations are very rigid and do not allow for much flexibility and often cost a lot of points. We have found them to be fine for competitive play so far. I honestly do not feel that it is unfair at all, it is just different.


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Holy smokes, already 25% full!

Anyone have a coupon code for this event?

25%?
I am going to have to be there tommorow


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 Reecius wrote:


@Hot Sizzle

Yeah, I think the LoW will be a lot of fun, actually. They will all be giving up VPs as you destroy them, too, so they are a bit of a liability.



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Holy smokes, already 25% full!

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That is why, the ones you chose are nothing but giant versions of vehicles, the baneblads are just giant Russes.
Although I know my bikes are gonna have Meltabombs now.
Still, Im sad the manta isnt on this list :(

@Blackmoor

$65 is very reasonable, good sir! haha

@Hot Sauce

Considering the Manta costs more points than we are allowing for the event, I think that would have been a tad difficult to do, lol! But, yeah, a Manta would be fun.

And grab dem tickets!! Wowzers, we're already approaching 1/3 full!

Does Israel have a Manta? I'd let him use that thing as his whole army if he wanted, haha!

 Zagman wrote:
Wow, looks really good. If I could swing a trip to SoCal this year I totally would.

It is being in No Cal like always, but I get what you meant.

They need to punch up the when and where a little bit.

Bay Area Open

When?
July 26th and 27th

Where?
88 S 4th St
San Jose, CA 95112
https://www.google.com/maps/place/88+S+4th+St/@37.3364664,-121.8862606,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x808fccbc14a4f8cf:0x33bb873b1611f107

5 Miles from San Jose Airport

Hotel Accommodations

Closest Single bed:
The only hotel close (.4 miles away) that has rooms for under $150 is the Four Points San Jose for $119 for a single king bed (no double beds available)
http://www.fourpointssanjosedowntown.com/

Closest/Cheapest Double Bed:
Hotel Elan 2.1 Miles away $85
http://www.hotelelansanjose.com/

http://www.frontlinegaming.org/community/bay-area-open-warhammer-40000-friendly-event/

40K Friendly Rules and Tickets Up!

And yeah, thanks Allan!

I like you LOW list. I'm intrigued by the Fellblade. I really like that tank. The damage potential is astounding and the fluff behind it is pretty good to.

The Typhoon Siege Tank, though not allowed in the BAO, is my favorite LOW tank for looks. It looks mean, it looks intimidating and if it can't shoot you down it will run you over to finish you off.

The Fellblade is a beast! I think it is too cheap for what you get, but, the equalizer in my mind is that you give up VPs as it gets damaged. I think it should be about 50-75pts more.

The Typhon is super cool but we decided on a blanket ban on any LoW with a large, ignores cover weapons. Those are the ones that really upset people, when they just pick up models by the handful with no save or recourse. We decided to kind of ease our way in with the LoW since our attendees do want them, but with some restrictions.

Oh! Do you get the option to roll on the Escalation Warlord Traits if your opponent has a LOW as well?

 Reecius wrote:
The Fellblade is a beast! I think it is too cheap for what you get, but, the equalizer in my mind is that you give up VPs as it gets damaged. I think it should be about 50-75pts more.

The Typhon is super cool but we decided on a blanket ban on any LoW with a large, ignores cover weapons. Those are the ones that really upset people, when they just pick up models by the handful with no save or recourse. We decided to kind of ease our way in with the LoW since our attendees do want them, but with some restrictions.

But the Deathstrike is still allowed?

Well, the Deathstrike is 12/12/10 with 3HP and a randomly firing single use gun...prooooooobably nothing game breaking there.

 tomjoad wrote:
Well, the Deathstrike is 12/12/10 with 3HP and a randomly firing single use gun...prooooooobably nothing game breaking there.

Agreed. It is pretty hard to try and equate the Deathstrike to a Superheavy...

To be fair, we're also talking about a 160pt unit, if we're tallking about the same points investment as many of these superheavies, you could buy 3-4 Deathstrikes

@Magc8Ball

Yes! Thanks for the reminder, I totally forgot to add that.

@Hot Sauce

Deathstrike is definitely in, and not a worry =P

@Thread

Over 1/3 of the main events tickets are already sold!! Don't wait!

Whoever is gonna be on Table 64, look out! I just bought my ticket!

 Brothererekose wrote:
Whoever is gonna be on Table 64, look out! I just bought my ticket!

Lol

I bought my ticket right away.

Normally I hold off because there is always plenty of space and time to buy them at a latter date.

Lost in the fine print is that there are only 128 spaces at this event this time to I had to act.

I didn't try to hide that, but yes, it is important to know that space is limited and we are already pushing 60 and tickets have only been up for sale for two days now! So yeah, this event is almost certainly going to sell out.

Bought my ticket! looking forward to it. The venue looks awesome! Looking to get some practice games in with the GE people.

I got mine too. Now I just need to get my army READY!!!!!
I wonder If I can paint a small IG thing by then........about 40 guardsmen and tanks

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
I got mine too. Now I just need to get my army READY!!!!!
I wonder If I can paint a small IG thing by then........about 40 guardsmen and tanks

I have 8 guardsmen, two heavy weapon platforms, and...uh, a vendetta and 8 tanks (two of which is haven't even bought yet) to go? Why am I wasting time on this forum? Gottagettowork!

World Eaters should get a special faction bonus, just 'cause.

Pumped for the event, now! It is going to be good fun.

@Whitedragon

I know, right? The, "You're a Boss!" award for just being awesome!

But in the Friendly event we're doing, you could make a pretty bitchin Khorne army! And, you wouldn't have to worry about getting creamed in every game against some uber crazy stuff.


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Haha, some of the 40K Friendly Lists coming in are so cool! Definitely going to be some fun games!

 Reecius wrote:
Haha, some of the 40K Friendly Lists coming in are so cool! Definitely going to be some fun games!

For those of us who are going to be at each others' throats in the Championship rtt (Allan, you're the appetizer before I make Jy2 my main course , with a side of that Goat-Guy ) Reece, wouldja mind posting some of those lists for the friendly rounds?

I nearly went that route, but decided:
1. I'm used to the cut-throat Champ environment
2. It's two more games of 40k.
3. Even though I read the friendly page rules, I still couldn't grasp what such a list would look like. I guess I've played too long at GE's tourney scene.

I have to say, Im excited for 1850. It gives me alot of freedom in making my list

How many seats are available for the friendly out of curiosity?