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Its not just the shape- it's the "Wehrkind Spongy Factor" (TM). Certain bones models have features that are really soft for whatever reason. He did a thorough review of this effect previously, along with a video- I'll find the link for it later, unless someone beats me to it.

Also in the video, he says his username, and I bet almost everyone has been saying it wrong before now

I just imagined it was german with a bit of wordplay for "Damned Child"

Here's the video:

"This video does not exist." is all I'm seeing now...

 Alpharius wrote:
"This video does not exist." is all I'm seeing now...

me too, I want to watch the video [But I can't]

Ah, sorry about that! Fixed now (I had manually tried to memorize the YouTube link and posted that from my phone... was off by one letter).

Also he says his username about two seconds into the video, so at least hit play for that

Basement Dweller might be the first person to guess it correctly My usernames used to give my old WoW guild fits, especially the bad literal translations into Cantonese. Good times

I think you'll find your storm giant's sword isn't too bad RiTides. I had the same thing with flaccid blade there and after some hot water and stretching it is good now. Still moves out of the way if you touch it, but goes back to where it should.

I win ze internetz!

I hear cats

 Piston Honda wrote:
I hear cats

INCOMING

Hehe yea, High Chancellor Pudding Cup had a lot to say about Bones and their quality.

Cat interruption happens right at 4:30 . I especially like how you completely ignore it and attempt to soldier on in your scientific analysis of the "WSF"...

Spend a little time here and ignoring my super needy cats becomes kind of second nature Pudding isn't so bad, but Rogies... good lord, banshees read about him on the internet for pointers.

Bones is my second-favorite medium right now. It's easy to work with in terms of cleaning and painting (no need to prime it!), and it's cheap enough to warrant impulse-buying half a dozen minis. It's also an excellent medium for beginners. I've introduced two nephews to miniature painting with Bones minis, and they loved the experience.

Are some of the Bones sculpts kind of crappy? Yeah. Turns out most of Reaper's sculpts are kind of crappy. Just don't buy those ones.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Are some of the Bones sculpts kind of crappy? Yeah. Turns out most of Reaper's sculpts are kind of crappy. Just don't buy those ones.

This is good advice.

But I come to you now, brothers, with a tale of victory!

Draekerys is at a close (in about 4 hours) and I have gazed upon its temptations, tempered my purchasing impulse, and, thanks to a great fortitude afforded by our fellowship, have not pledged!

Rejoice! This beast rears up at full height, its massive weight beared, eyes blazing hatred -- at least I think they're eyes -- and with a death roar is laid low by the Knights Plastic, succumbing to not-yet-dulled blades and heavy rorschach-esque shields.

I congratulate you on your restraint, brother. I wish Drakerys all the best as they attempt to tame this beast... may the fingers of their backers be spared.

Soooo, has anyone got their Relic Knights pledges yet? A buddy and I split a Gotta Get Em All + extras and we're kind of dreading the arrival. I get that white PVC type things don't photograph well. Bones are actually a bit better in person, so its pretty much impossible to tell what's going on from the previews.

Three of the local gamers received theirs. Wehrkind is one of them, and gave his initial impressions here in the Relic Knights thread. It is definitely a mixed bag, some good, some bad.

Another of the locals got his, was excited by it, then posted this later after I shared our logo with the local group:

Yeah, after building all day, I think I want to join the Knights of Restic as well.

Ow.

Still, I know he and the other local gamer got together to play it yesterday, and liked some of the models... so like I said, a mixed bag of results.

Another had this to say after seeing our coat of arms:

Wow...that's quite a logo. It really tells a story.

Our message spreads, brothers!

For me, Relic (Restic!) Knight is mixed, but more good than bad.

Quality is improved over, say, Sedition Wars and much of what Mantic puts out, but it is still a less desirable material.

Overall, I put Relic Knights just into a 'good' rating, with the standard caveats that go with restic, Privateer Press, etc. models.

 Alpharius wrote:
For me, Relic (Restic!) Knight is mixed, but more good than bad.

Quality is improved over, say, Sedition Wars and much of what Mantic puts out, but it is still a less desirable material.

Overall, I put Relic Knights just into a 'good' rating, with the standard caveats that go with restic, Privateer Press, etc. models.

I believe that's a perfect fit for Relic Knights. It's "good", not "poor" or "great", but "good".

I dunno, I am pretty irritated at all the mold lines that go through the cheek bones of model's faces in a ring. The heads are tiny, then they have a mold line ring right around the middle of the face, a line about 20% the size of the face. That makes me a little irritated.

My love of neat little models and hoarding is losing to my desire to sell them and get something better.

It seems the vanguard has returned, having fought a losing battle. I am neither proud nor shamed for not having fought in this particular fight, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't happy to have been spared the anguish... and the added layer of grey basement filler

Thank you brothers for your honest tales.

@Wehrkind: Oh dear... 20% of the face is not really acceptable. Don't know whether to laugh or cry.

@RiTides So more people are seeing the light

Not sure if this is the place, but does anybody here know what material Rackham used for their pre-painted plastics? I was painting some up last night, and I compared to some restic I am also currently working on, it is a much better material. Particularly without the paint. The Wolfen army box came basically just primed, and the detail and edges all look good. It is also easy to scrape. Just curious.

To keep with the spirit of the topic, the army fell off my restic knight (Mantic paladin) again. I'm not sure I have the will power to re-attach it again. I have found that the material is nearly impossible to keep glued.

Have you tried executing another restic mini for failure in front of your paladin?

I spent 20 or 30 minutes scraping and oh so carefully slicing the mold lines on a relic knights mini.

Primed it.

Missed quite a bit.

This is sedition wars all over again.

I also went a little crazy by yelling at the miniature.




this sums it up

Ho, brothers of the Blade and Bleeding Thumbs. I come to you with a problem, and one that must be solved without the aid of fire, tempting a solution as it may be.

This eve, after months of on-and-off looking, I found a single baggie containing a trio of Mantic's Basiliean Elohi. Not the rest of them - not yet - they are still missing in limbo. But these three, I opened up and began to clean them, using my newly-aquired titanium scalpel. After some time, I managed to get the torsos cleaned to my satisfaction, and the wings to a workable level.

But the arms! The Heads!

The heads are like that of a pin, and so I shall not use these... pinheads on my models. I shall replace them with something else. Perhaps cut-down Sanguinary Guard heads - their masks will serve to hide the shame of the bodies they will be mounted on.

The arms - I attempted to clean one, then another. But the injection port is in the armpit, in a section of the shoulder under an indented piece of armour. A nightmare to clean, and not really possible to do a good job easily. The weapons! Flaming swords - in theory at least. But again, softly detailed, sad things with poor wrist plugs that do not fit the arms well at all.

So - my dilemma. I do want to use these figures. Or at least salvage the torsos and wings. This can be done. The heads shall be replaced by those of better angels. Leaving me with the last problem, and the reason I come here to seek suggestions from my brothers-in-arms. What shall I use to replace the arms and weapons of these things? They are the last pieces I need to offer these fallen restic angels some hope at redemption from their shamefully negative roots. My criteria is simple but broad - they must be hard plastic, ideally fantasy, from the shoulder down, armoured and reasonably available for a price that is not ridiculous - and they must fit the Elohi reasonably well - and so swords of power and chain would be a poor choice, as would corroded blades or those dripping with skulls. If it comes to it, at an extreme, I am willing to buy an entire WFB box to do this, as long as I can still use the rest of the box.

Swords, greatswords, hammers, 2-handed hammers, shields, halberds.. I am flexible, and in fact think mixed weapons could add some real interest. I will need to be able to equip at least 9-15 of these figures eventually (when I find the others) though...



If I am successful in this quest - this redemption - this trial, I shall make an offering of the failed heads and weapons to Vulcan and Hephaestus, and video their fiery demise - which I will then place on YouTube.

How big are these?

Man sized? Ogre Sized? Demon Prince Sized?

They're tall, but their proportions are odd. I think "human-sized" WFB models would (probably) work okay. A space marine arm looks fine, for example. (And if I had a ton of SM arms with weapons that looked like medieval weapons rather than power weapons, I might have used those.)

I took a dodgy scale comparison pic with some models that were to hand. The Basilean Elohi are definitely tall and with fairly slim proportions. A Space Marine comes up to their shoudlers.


edit: Added scale comparison for some heads from various ranges I had in my bits drawers. Can take better shots of any if they pique your interest. Have fireforge infantry and knights, wood elf archers, dark elves, dreamforge and maybe some others if you want any of those too but they're on sprue so didn't want to do it unless you were interested.

Dear Brothers of the demoralised hobby time sucking device known as restic.

I have a small affliction with restic, mainly from PPs lines, my hatred of the mold lines and material leads me to leave large divots out of the shoulders of my warjacks in my haste to get out of the preparation area. I suggest this course of action as it is very theraputic(?).

I suggest that a 'dodgy scale' as obliquely suggested by yonan be put in place to guide others away from the things that have caused us the most pain.