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 Kanluwen wrote:
 Murdius Maximus wrote:
Just seeing the results from yesterday's press releases at E3, and I have to say that Microsoft dropped the ball again this year. While I love the fact that they are emphasizing the indie market, they were certainly lacking in the exclusive department. They showed Halo and Fable which are nice, but I felt that Sony really upstaged them again with exclusives. Now, I am a bit perturbed at the fact that there were so many remakes, but the list is strong.

Microsoft Exclusives
----------------
Halo 5
Fable Legends


Sony Exclusives
-----------------
Ratchet and Clank
Grim Fandango
Order: 1886 (or something like that, I don't remember the year lol)
No Man's Sky
The Last of Us remastered
Landing the Destiny Beta
Diablo 3 Exclusive content
Exclusive Batman Scarecrow missions
Little Big Planet 3
Blood Bourne

Now granted the dust hasn't quite settled yet, and Microsoft may surely have some more tricks up it's sleeve, but I feel very safe in backing the PS4 for the new generation.

What do you guys think?

Sony didn't "land the Destiny beta". They get it earlier than the other platforms. Oh noes! They also have an alpha that starts this weekend, but that requires you to sign up for it.
Little Big Planet was never going to be anything but a Sony exclusive.
Bloodbourne was nothing but a cinematic trailer.
Last of Us was going to be a Sony exclusive.
Batman Scarecrow missions are likely going to be timed exclusive or just so boring that it wouldn't matter anyways.
Diablo 3 exclusive content is a wash as it's basically reskinned monsters.
Order: 1886 actually looks interesting but as an exclusive it seems to be a bit weird.
Ratchet and Clank and Grim Fandango are relying upon fanfondness.

Add to it that you left off Microsoft getting a slew of "premiere content first on Xbox One" for some big name titles(Dragon Age: Inquisition, Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare, Tom Clancy's The Division) and I have to wonder if you actually did pay attention.

It's also worth mentioning that Microsoft was showing off a mixture of first and third party titles while most of what Sony showed off yesterday was first party.


First off, I wasn't attacking either side just giving my opinion so drop the attitude. It is evident that you are Microsoft fanboy and if I upset you that was not the intention. But clearly by what you said you prove my point. Sony had more first party (exclusive) content than Xbox. Which is what really matters at the moment as far as the console wars go. Maybe you should pay attention




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Did you seriously play any Fable game all the way through in less than two hours?

   
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 Murdius Maximus wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
 Murdius Maximus wrote:
Just seeing the results from yesterday's press releases at E3, and I have to say that Microsoft dropped the ball again this year. While I love the fact that they are emphasizing the indie market, they were certainly lacking in the exclusive department. They showed Halo and Fable which are nice, but I felt that Sony really upstaged them again with exclusives. Now, I am a bit perturbed at the fact that there were so many remakes, but the list is strong.

Microsoft Exclusives
----------------
Halo 5
Fable Legends


Sony Exclusives
-----------------
Ratchet and Clank
Grim Fandango
Order: 1886 (or something like that, I don't remember the year lol)
No Man's Sky
The Last of Us remastered
Landing the Destiny Beta
Diablo 3 Exclusive content
Exclusive Batman Scarecrow missions
Little Big Planet 3
Blood Bourne

Now granted the dust hasn't quite settled yet, and Microsoft may surely have some more tricks up it's sleeve, but I feel very safe in backing the PS4 for the new generation.

What do you guys think?

Sony didn't "land the Destiny beta". They get it earlier than the other platforms. Oh noes! They also have an alpha that starts this weekend, but that requires you to sign up for it.
Little Big Planet was never going to be anything but a Sony exclusive.
Bloodbourne was nothing but a cinematic trailer.
Last of Us was going to be a Sony exclusive.
Batman Scarecrow missions are likely going to be timed exclusive or just so boring that it wouldn't matter anyways.
Diablo 3 exclusive content is a wash as it's basically reskinned monsters.
Order: 1886 actually looks interesting but as an exclusive it seems to be a bit weird.
Ratchet and Clank and Grim Fandango are relying upon fanfondness.

Add to it that you left off Microsoft getting a slew of "premiere content first on Xbox One" for some big name titles(Dragon Age: Inquisition, Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare, Tom Clancy's The Division) and I have to wonder if you actually did pay attention.

It's also worth mentioning that Microsoft was showing off a mixture of first and third party titles while most of what Sony showed off yesterday was first party.


First off, I wasn't attacking either side just giving my opinion so drop the attitude.

Seriously? Look at your title and then try that again.

It is evident that you are Microsoft fanboy and if I upset you that was not the intention. But clearly by what you said you prove my point. Sony had more first party (exclusive) content than Xbox. Which is what really matters at the moment as far as the console wars go. Maybe you should pay attention

I don't think you understand what "exclusive content" is.
   
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I will say that I forgot about the Halo remastered edition coming out. It actually seems like a solid product, but as much as I love, love, love Halo, the series is pretty stale for me. 4 wasn't a big improvement and the story, to me, was largely forgettable.

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 Manchu wrote:
Did you seriously play any Fable game all the way through in less than two hours?


Fable 1 was less than 10 hours start to finish, and I levelled up plenty in it.

For 2, I remember a lot of back and forth running from town to town. I can't recall the exact time, but there's no way it was more than a 20 hour campaign.

And 3 (the one I think did the best of Fable), that was probably around...hmmm mid 20s for hours. But a good portion of those hours were spent grinding gold in jobs or having property pay off so I could not have all the kingdom slaughtered by shoggoths.

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There you go, hours of play. And the truth is I had some fun playing them. Yes, by the end I was very bitter about them but I did have fun, which explains why I keep buying them even despite thinking they are ultimately a disappointing line of games.

   
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 Kanluwen wrote:
 Murdius Maximus wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
 Murdius Maximus wrote:
Just seeing the results from yesterday's press releases at E3, and I have to say that Microsoft dropped the ball again this year. While I love the fact that they are emphasizing the indie market, they were certainly lacking in the exclusive department. They showed Halo and Fable which are nice, but I felt that Sony really upstaged them again with exclusives. Now, I am a bit perturbed at the fact that there were so many remakes, but the list is strong.

Microsoft Exclusives
----------------
Halo 5
Fable Legends


Sony Exclusives
-----------------
Ratchet and Clank
Grim Fandango
Order: 1886 (or something like that, I don't remember the year lol)
No Man's Sky
The Last of Us remastered
Landing the Destiny Beta
Diablo 3 Exclusive content
Exclusive Batman Scarecrow missions
Little Big Planet 3
Blood Bourne

Now granted the dust hasn't quite settled yet, and Microsoft may surely have some more tricks up it's sleeve, but I feel very safe in backing the PS4 for the new generation.

What do you guys think?

Sony didn't "land the Destiny beta". They get it earlier than the other platforms. Oh noes! They also have an alpha that starts this weekend, but that requires you to sign up for it.
Little Big Planet was never going to be anything but a Sony exclusive.
Bloodbourne was nothing but a cinematic trailer.
Last of Us was going to be a Sony exclusive.
Batman Scarecrow missions are likely going to be timed exclusive or just so boring that it wouldn't matter anyways.
Diablo 3 exclusive content is a wash as it's basically reskinned monsters.
Order: 1886 actually looks interesting but as an exclusive it seems to be a bit weird.
Ratchet and Clank and Grim Fandango are relying upon fanfondness.

Add to it that you left off Microsoft getting a slew of "premiere content first on Xbox One" for some big name titles(Dragon Age: Inquisition, Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare, Tom Clancy's The Division) and I have to wonder if you actually did pay attention.

It's also worth mentioning that Microsoft was showing off a mixture of first and third party titles while most of what Sony showed off yesterday was first party.


First off, I wasn't attacking either side just giving my opinion so drop the attitude.

Seriously? Look at your title and then try that again.

It is evident that you are Microsoft fanboy and if I upset you that was not the intention. But clearly by what you said you prove my point. Sony had more first party (exclusive) content than Xbox. Which is what really matters at the moment as far as the console wars go. Maybe you should pay attention

I don't think you understand what "exclusive content" is.


Yeah. So I'm seeing that being, shall we say, rude and condescending, is your way to win an argument. Good job. Calm down there little buddy.

The title of my thread is my opinion, but I never once said that Xbox 1 Sucks, or that PS4 is the best. I merely said I was glad I'm backing the PS4 and that my opinion is they had the better show with better games coming out.

As far as exclusive goes...just stop, you're making yourself look worse

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 Manchu wrote:
There you go, hours of play. And the truth is I had some fun playing them. Yes, by the end I was very bitter about them but I did have fun, which explains why I keep buying them even despite thinking they are ultimately a disappointing line of games.


I yield the semantic point. Yes, I did get plural hours of play out of Fable.

That said, for the sprawling RPG worlds that they inflated themselves up to me, I am left seriously chafed. I paid full price for games that I could have beaten in a weekend and have zero replay value. That isn't ambition, no matter how big they talk it up to be.

To use your analogy, just because the first bite of a sandwich is good doesn't mean it is a good sandwich when it is awful by the end. And that you paid full price for a finger sandwich.

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I am not surprised at all.

But to be honest. :/ I agree with everyone here who says PC's are cheaper and more fun. Plus its more enjoyable, as it costs 60$ for a game on consoles. How much do I pay on the computer? 20$ for a game :/ I just wait for sales, because console games rarely go on sale.

And yes PC is the best.


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Grim Fandango eh? I wonder if it's a sequel, prequel, or remake?

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 Manchu wrote:
There you go, hours of play. And the truth is I had some fun playing them. Yes, by the end I was very bitter about them but I did have fun, which explains why I keep buying them even despite thinking they are ultimately a disappointing line of games.


I have to agree with this. I did, in fact, have a lot of fun playing the first two games. The third one didn't feel like Fable to me. I agree with the poster who said that most of the game was a gold-grind, but I invested heavy in real estate and had no trouble there. I would just park it in a corner somewhere, and leave the game on overnight for a few days and BAMF. But what killed it for me was the crashes and game ending saves. They took too long to patch it, and just when the DLC was headed in the right direction, they abandoned it. didn't work for me personally...

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What does it say about a game that " park it in a corner somewhere, and leave the game on overnight for a few days" is the best way to deal with it?

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Again, no argument here about the Fable games being ultimately disappointing. My original point is that they have ambition, and specifically not that they live up to it. Everyone of them has been much less than hyped BUT they still stand out.

   
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 curran12 wrote:
What does it say about a game that " park it in a corner somewhere, and leave the game on overnight for a few days" is the best way to deal with it?


yeah...don't have anything to refute that with lol! But it was an ambitious game, and honestly, they did sport some of the best graphics of the generation! And hey, it is the only game ever that you can literally fart in someones face, then kill them, then say you were sorry to guards and they'd let you go

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 Melissia wrote:
Grim Fandango eh? I wonder if it's a sequel, prequel, or remake?

Remake. And "exclusive to the PS3 and PS4 console"...so probably getting a PC release as well.
   
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So does anyone figure the delay in announcing FO4 has to do with the console turnover?

I mean, I am assuming a delay in announcing FO4. It has been 3 1/2 years since Skyrim was announced.

   
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 Kanluwen wrote:

Remake. And "exclusive to the PS3 and PS4 console"...so probably getting a PC release as well.


it is. Tim Schafer would probably self combust if it wasn't. It will probably find its way to the X box as well.

Besides the original is a PC exclusive


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 Manchu wrote:
So does anyone figure the delay in announcing FO4 has to do with the console turnover?
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I assume that they are either unhappy with how it is progressing and restarted it or they are creating a new engine. It will turn up eventually.

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Fallout will definitely make a return. I think that enough demand is there for it, but I agree it is probably a new engine for it. Plus don't those games take forever to make? I mean on new hardware and and whatnot I would wonder if they would have to start from scratch to make one?

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 Manchu wrote:
So does anyone figure the delay in announcing FO4 has to do with the console turnover?

I mean, I am assuming a delay in announcing FO4. It has been 3 1/2 years since Skyrim was announced.

Bethesda's actually having money troubles.
   
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 Kanluwen wrote:
 Manchu wrote:
So does anyone figure the delay in announcing FO4 has to do with the console turnover?

I mean, I am assuming a delay in announcing FO4. It has been 3 1/2 years since Skyrim was announced.

Bethesda's actually having money troubles.



Source?


Also, how is no one interested in No Man's Sky? It just looks completely fething amazing.



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Agree. Source?

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 Murdius Maximus wrote:
I mean on new hardware and and whatnot I would wonder if they would have to start from scratch to make one?


Its not new hardware, the next gen consoles are simply highly specialised PCs, just like the last ones.

No man's Sky looks suspiciously like a Spore FPS/arcade flight sim and we all know how Spore turned out..... It may be good but the game play featured in that trailer did not inspire me with confidence.

RegalPhantom wrote:
If your fluff doesn't fit, change your fluff until it does
The prefect example of someone missing the point.
Do not underestimate the Squats. They survived for millenia cut off from the Imperium and assailed on all sides. Their determination and resilience is an example to us all.
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Its just a shame that they couldn't fight off Andy Chambers.
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Perhaps the Eldar Scrolls Online is a source of their money worries?

I'd really rather have another Eldar Scrolls game than Fallout 4. Fallout has a cool setting but the combat was poor. While Skyrim's combat is hardly masterful it's fun enough to keep you going through your playthroughs.

Co-op option for the next Eldar Scrolls game please.

   
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 Medium of Death wrote:
Perhaps the Eldar Scrolls Online is a source of their money worries?

I'd really rather have another Eldar Scrolls game than Fallout 4. Fallout has a cool setting but the combat was poor. While Skyrim's combat is hardly masterful it's fun enough to keep you going through your playthroughs.

Co-op option for the next Eldar Scrolls game please.


...wait what. Excuse me, but as a huge Skyrim fan myself, the "battle system" in Skyrim is utter garbage. At its best times. Fallout and its VATS system are leagues ahead of Skyrim combat-wise.

   
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 Palindrome wrote:
 Murdius Maximus wrote:
I mean on new hardware and and whatnot I would wonder if they would have to start from scratch to make one?


Its not new hardware, the next gen consoles are simply highly specialised PCs, just like the last ones.

No man's Sky looks suspiciously like a Spore FPS/arcade flight sim and we all know how Spore turned out..... It may be good but the game play featured in that trailer did not inspire me with confidence.


It's coming to PC as well as PS4. Imagine if the game is moddable.

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Both systems have been mediocre since their respective launches, and this year's E3 changes none of that. In the end, neither system offers much that you can't get in better quality on PC. Bloodborne might be enough to get me to buy a PS4, but that's more because I'm a hardcore From Software/Souls Series devotee.

Nintendo, on the other hand, has been running circles around the competition with their offerings this year.
   
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To me Skyrim's combat, while basic is certainly more visceral. The VATS system is good but combat outwith VATS just feels weak.

   
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Yeah... all of those 'franchise' hits leave me cold.

I actually may buy a WII U simply to play mario kart 8 and then give it to a random kid on the bus simply because mario kart is so amazing.

And did someone say new legend of Zelda?



None of the franchises for xbox or sony seem to have this type of impact on the market.


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