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 Grey Templar wrote:
I have little issue with recycling. The vehicles aren't the concern. Its the actual weaponry that is a problem.

Let the local SWAT have some armored cars, but don't give them military grade ordinance.


Hey, what was that people said about the 2nd amendment being unnecessary?


Your second amendment rights mean just about nothing against military grade ordnance.
   
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 ds9lord wrote:
But on the other hand what if another Waco siege happens or a Ruby Ridge then the police seem like their in the right for having this kind of stuff around for something like that.


That's what calling in the ATF, FBI, National Guards is for. Local level police do not need that type of equipment.
   
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 Fafnir wrote:
 Grey Templar wrote:
I have little issue with recycling. The vehicles aren't the concern. Its the actual weaponry that is a problem.

Let the local SWAT have some armored cars, but don't give them military grade ordinance.


Hey, what was that people said about the 2nd amendment being unnecessary?


Your second amendment rights mean just about nothing against military grade ordnance.


Only if it doesn't allow me to have military grade ordinance myself. Which it originally did and should allow.

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That's what calling in the ATF, FBI, National Guards is for. Local level police do not need that type of equipment.



well i guess you got me their.

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Grey Templar wrote:Let the local SWAT have some armored cars, but don't give them military grade ordinance


Grey Templar wrote:Only if it doesn't allow me to have military grade ordinance myself. Which it originally did and should allow.


You keep using that word. I do not believe it means what you think it means.

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 Ouze wrote:
Grey Templar wrote:Let the local SWAT have some armored cars, but don't give them military grade ordinance


Grey Templar wrote:Only if it doesn't allow me to have military grade ordinance myself. Which it originally did and should allow.


You keep using that word. I do not believe it means what you think it means.



Well they are running around with fully automatic and select fire weapons, we the civilians are not. That would be the "military grade" he is referring to.

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That wasn't the problem, since calling our ever-militarized police department's equipment military grade is pretty accurate.

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 Grey Templar wrote:


Only if it doesn't allow me to have military grade ordinance myself. Which it originally did and should allow.


No. Just no.

I am extremely suspicious of police, and am outraged at the level of arrogance many LEO's exhibit over civilians, their abuses of pesky things like civil rights and the bodily harm they inflict and are not prosecuted for, but even then there is no way that I'd ever advocate that Americans should be allowed to poses military grade ordinance. We are having almost weekly mass shootings the last thing we need is to up the killing potential of our domestic lunatics by giving them "the good stuff" just so a percentage of our population can feel secure in their home-made bunkers waiting for their chance to fire at the government. No. Fething no.
   
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I'm somewhat surprised that the police haven't pushed to get their own ICBM's. Possibly armed with rubber tactical nukes...

   
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Ahh... you're referring to the extra I he included in the word Ordnance?

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Well, they are two completely different words with two completely different meanings, and it was a great excuse for a Princess Bride reference. I'm weak, I admit.

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 Ouze wrote:
Well, they are two completely different words with two completely different meanings, and it was a great excuse for a Princess Bride reference. I'm weak, I admit.


I'd say something about falling back to grammer nazi'ing in a debate, but since you had to go and Princess Bride it... I'll let it go.

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 DarkTraveler777 wrote:
 Grey Templar wrote:


Only if it doesn't allow me to have military grade ordinance myself. Which it originally did and should allow.


No. Just no.

I am extremely suspicious of police, and am outraged at the level of arrogance many LEO's exhibit over civilians, their abuses of pesky things like civil rights and the bodily harm they inflict and are not prosecuted for, but even then there is no way that I'd ever advocate that Americans should be allowed to poses military grade ordinance. We are having almost weekly mass shootings the last thing we need is to up the killing potential of our domestic lunatics by giving them "the good stuff" just so a percentage of our population can feel secure in their home-made bunkers waiting for their chance to fire at the government. No. Fething no.


If a person has hundreds of thousands of dollars to spend on military grade ordnance, I don't think you would need to worry about them going on any shooting rampage.... I think they would be financially and economically secure to not want to kill people on mass to get recognition.

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When was the last time a millionaire went on a mass killing spree?

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 Ninjacommando wrote:
 DarkTraveler777 wrote:
 Grey Templar wrote:


Only if it doesn't allow me to have military grade ordinance myself. Which it originally did and should allow.


No. Just no.

I am extremely suspicious of police, and am outraged at the level of arrogance many LEO's exhibit over civilians, their abuses of pesky things like civil rights and the bodily harm they inflict and are not prosecuted for, but even then there is no way that I'd ever advocate that Americans should be allowed to poses military grade ordinance. We are having almost weekly mass shootings the last thing we need is to up the killing potential of our domestic lunatics by giving them "the good stuff" just so a percentage of our population can feel secure in their home-made bunkers waiting for their chance to fire at the government. No. Fething no.


If a person has hundreds of thousands of dollars to spend on military grade ordnance, I don't think you would need to worry about them going on any shooting rampage.... I think they would be financially and economically secure to not want to kill people on mass to get recognition.


Great. So criminal organizations, corporate security, and other deep pocketed groups with agendas would be fine too, right? And they would never do anything bad with those legal toys. Right?

And the "evil" government and law enforcement agencies would then have justification for getting even scarier gear because every Tom, Dick and Captain Badass living in his silo-fort are now legitimate threats that need to be countered. Congrats! We now live in the Shadowrun universe.
   
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Wait, criminal organizations don't buy illegal weapons already?

Well color me shocked...

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 DarkTraveler777 wrote:

Great. So criminal organizations, corporate security, and other deep pocketed groups with agendas would be fine too, right? And they would never do anything bad with those legal toys. Right?

And the "evil" government and law enforcement agencies would then have justification for getting even scarier gear because every Tom, Dick and Captain Badass living in his silo-fort are now legitimate threats that need to be countered. Congrats! We now live in the Shadowrun universe.


criminal organizations


criminal


Because they follow the law?

corporate security


That already have "Military Grade" weapons? Search PMC.

If I had the money to own and maintain a M1A2 abrams, why should I not be allowed to own one? Why are you afraid of something that I own?

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 SilverMK2 wrote:
I'm somewhat surprised that the police haven't pushed to get their own ICBM's. Possibly armed with rubber tactical nukes...

Do you mind silver, I'm eating here. Have you ever tried eating and laughing at the same time. It doesn't work very well.



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 djones520 wrote:
When was the last time a millionaire went on a mass killing spree?


Whats the ratio of millionares to normal people?

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 Palindrome wrote:
 djones520 wrote:
When was the last time a millionaire went on a mass killing spree?


Whats the ratio of millionares to normal people?


We'll we're discussing the risk of citizens buying AH-64's and loading them up with Hellfires... so it's really only going to be that small segment of the population who could do that. So what does the ratio matter?

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 djones520 wrote:
 Palindrome wrote:
 djones520 wrote:
When was the last time a millionaire went on a mass killing spree?


Whats the ratio of millionares to normal people?


We'll we're discussing the risk of citizens buying AH-64's and loading them up with Hellfires... so it's really only going to be that small segment of the population who could do that. So what does the ratio matter?

Waste of taxpayers money. Cheap drone from amazon with shaped charge, lands on roof , detonates and oven roast pork. Most armoured vehicles have armoured and shaped bottoms, to control and deflect explosives. Roofs not so much. Who needs hellfires.



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 loki old fart wrote:
Cheap drone from amazon with shaped charge, lands on roof , detonates and oven roast pork.


That settles it, I'm getting BBQ for lunch.

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 Ouze wrote:
 loki old fart wrote:
Cheap drone from amazon with shaped charge, lands on roof , detonates and oven roast pork.


That settles it, I'm getting BBQ for lunch.

We have the same problem in England. The police becoming separated from the public. It used to be our police protecting us from the criminals(dixon of dock green). Then it became them and us(the miners strike). People no longer see the police as friends.



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 djones520 wrote:
So what does the ratio matter?


Its the reason why mass murders, in the traditional sense, tend not to be millionaires.

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 Palindrome wrote:
 djones520 wrote:
So what does the ratio matter?


Its the reason why mass murders, in the traditional sense, tend not to be millionaires.


Ok? Well the argument would be that mass murders would be worse because said weapons would fall into the hands of mass murderers. Well how, since these things are stupid expensive?

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