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I think that thematically and visually, there is enough to adequately represent the various flavours of the Legions.

The issue is, it often comes at the expense of gameplay, and so, once again, we return to the continual bugbear with all things 40K - balance.

Sure, Legion Terminators etc would be nice additions, but if a player could represent a 1K Sons or Emperors Children warband on the tabletop without them, and still have a playable force with a few list options, I don't expect the call for them would be as strong as it is.

I actually think transposing the 30K Legion rules and units into 40K, and using a little restraint with some of the wackier wargear options and unit choices is about the best, most fluffy and playable way of doing CSM right now, just a shame players won't necessarily always be playing in an environment where that is possible.

In this hobby I am a pure collector and my faction is Chaos Space Marines. I also have several proto-armies from Warhammer and Warhammer 40,000.

My Chaos Space Marine Army is roughly 32,000 points and is about 1/3rd complete, however and i'll give GW credit for giving us some pretty cool stuff, but that said, I really don't care about where I get my get my God Specific units such as 3rd party manufacturers.

Why, because I ain't gonna be playing in a GW store, with 3rd party Khornate, Nurgle, Slaaneshii and Tzeentchian troops, that will eventually fill out my units, unless GW make God specific plastic troops, i'll go to others to do the job.

However it does not matter with Chaos, just imagine how utterly frustrating it must be to be a Sisters of Battle player, those poor buggers have ignored for decades.

Also there is the matter of conversion, if you are creative you can convert anything, at the mo' I am converting a Space Marine Champion into a Dark Apostle, and it looks good.

Some however are just lazy and want everything handed to them on a silver plate.

 Achaylus72 wrote:
In this hobby I am a pure collector and my faction is Chaos Space Marines. I also have several proto-armies from Warhammer and Warhammer 40,000.

My Chaos Space Marine Army is roughly 32,000 points and is about 1/3rd complete, however and i'll give GW credit for giving us some pretty cool stuff, but that said, I really don't care about where I get my get my God Specific units such as 3rd party manufacturers.

Why, because I ain't gonna be playing in a GW store, with 3rd party Khornate, Nurgle, Slaaneshii and Tzeentchian troops, that will eventually fill out my units, unless GW make God specific plastic troops, i'll go to others to do the job.

However it does not matter with Chaos, just imagine how utterly frustrating it must be to be a Sisters of Battle player, those poor buggers have ignored for decades.

Also there is the matter of conversion, if you are creative you can convert anything, at the mo' I am converting a Space Marine Champion into a Dark Apostle, and it looks good.

Some however are just lazy and want everything handed to them on a silver plate.

That they have, but their role is filled by Tzeentch Chaos Marines since 3E, at least Sisters have been Viable compared to Thousand Sons!

 azreal13 wrote:
I think that thematically and visually, there is enough to adequately represent the various flavours of the Legions.

The issue is, it often comes at the expense of gameplay, and so, once again, we return to the continual bugbear with all things 40K - balance.

Sure, Legion Terminators etc would be nice additions, but if a player could represent a 1K Sons or Emperors Children warband on the tabletop without them, and still have a playable force with a few list options, I don't expect the call for them would be as strong as it is.

I actually think transposing the 30K Legion rules and units into 40K, and using a little restraint with some of the wackier wargear options and unit choices is about the best, most fluffy and playable way of doing CSM right now, just a shame players won't necessarily always be playing in an environment where that is possible.

I think one of the best things FW has managed to do is introduce some of these preheresy units with their distinct character that have clear pre-chaos slants. Take Destroyer squads... it is so easy to imagine Chaos fielding another jump pack units in that vein, replacing rad missiles and phosphox bombs for something produced in the eye of terror. That's before you even touch on any of the legion specific units. I'm hoping as the heresy era books move on to late heresy, FW will have more units its willing to carry over into 40k like they did with some of the Relic vehicles in the IA updates.