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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/25 18:39:58
Subject: Can a vendetta carrying allied dark angels scout squad outflank?
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Hardened Veteran Guardsman
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It's not a dedicated transport..... does this make all the difference?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/25 19:03:45
Subject: Can a vendetta carrying allied dark angels scout squad outflank?
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Fixture of Dakka
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It does. The Scout Special Rule has a section detailing what happens if the Unit is inside a Transport. This section starts with the words, If a unit with this special rule is deployed inside a Dedicated Transport, indicating that this section is only applicable to Dedicated Transports and it is within this section that Permission to Re-deploy a Transport is found. Therefore Vehicles which lack the Dedicated Transport Rule are unable to make use of Scout Re-deployment unless they have the Rule themselves. This is the same for the Infiltration Special Rule, it can only be conferred if the Unit is inside it's own Dedicated Transport.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2014/06/25 19:08:20
8th made it so I can no longer sway Tau onto the side of Chaos, but they will eventually turn aside from their idea of the Greater Good to embrace the Greatest of pleasures. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/25 21:58:55
Subject: Can a vendetta carrying allied dark angels scout squad outflank?
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Preacher of the Emperor
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Inside ANY dedicated transport, not just their own, but a dedicated transport nonetheless.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/25 21:59:38
Subject: Can a vendetta carrying allied dark angels scout squad outflank?
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But what if the vendetta is trying really, really hard?
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"Bringer of death, speak your name, For you are my life, and the foe's death." - Litany of the Lasgun
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/25 22:20:59
Subject: Can a vendetta carrying allied dark angels scout squad outflank?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Deviantduck,
Would be a useful loophole if the Vendetta selected to fill some sort of 'Dedicated Transport' slot on the Detachment's Force Organization Chart.
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8th made it so I can no longer sway Tau onto the side of Chaos, but they will eventually turn aside from their idea of the Greater Good to embrace the Greatest of pleasures. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/25 22:22:09
Subject: Can a vendetta carrying allied dark angels scout squad outflank?
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Confessor Of Sins
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I just have to say how much i really like this rule !
It is just the perfect argument !
lol Automatically Appended Next Post: JinxDragon wrote:Deviantduck,
Would be a useful loophole if the Vendetta selected to fill some sort of 'Dedicated Transport' slot on the Detachment's Force Organization Chart.
Not sure i get it?
Vendettas can be Dedicated Transports for Inquisition codex Warbands.
But the rules for DT say that the unit that "bought" the DT is the only one allowed to deploy inside.
Surely there is no way for another unit to be in a DT unless it's their own?
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/06/25 22:25:07
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Roronoa Zoro wrote:When the world shoves you around, you just gotta stand up and shove back. It's not like somebody's gonna save you if you start babbling excuses. - Bring on the hardship. It's preferred in a path of carnage. Manchu wrote:
It's like you take a Space Marine and say "what could make him cooler?" Instead of adding more super-genetic-psycho-organic modification, you take it all away. You have a regular human left in power armor and all the armies of hell at the gates. And she doesn't even flinch. Pure. Badass. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/25 22:49:45
Subject: Can a vendetta carrying allied dark angels scout squad outflank?
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Fixture of Dakka
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I am making am assumption based on Deviantduck's "not just their own" post that an argument would be forth coming that the Vendetta in this scenario could Scout. I concluded the only way that would be possible is if it some how retained the Dedicated Transport title if purchased from some Codex or Supplement with an Army List stating they are Dedicated Transports. My post was to pre-empt that argument by pointing out that there is no legal way to select any Unit from the "Dedicated Transport" section as a non-Dedicated version, as there are simply is no slots which they would then fill. Therefore it is irrelevant they could be purchased as a Dedicated Transport elsewhere, as the Vendetta in this scenario clearly is not one.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2014/06/25 22:55:51
8th made it so I can no longer sway Tau onto the side of Chaos, but they will eventually turn aside from their idea of the Greater Good to embrace the Greatest of pleasures. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/26 09:52:40
Subject: Can a vendetta carrying allied dark angels scout squad outflank?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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JinxDragon wrote:I am making am assumption based on Deviantduck's "not just their own" post that an argument would be forth coming that the Vendetta in this scenario could Scout. I concluded the only way that would be possible is if it some how retained the Dedicated Transport title if purchased from some Codex or Supplement with an Army List stating they are Dedicated Transports. My post was to pre-empt that argument by pointing out that there is no legal way to select any Unit from the "Dedicated Transport" section as a non-Dedicated version, as there are simply is no slots which they would then fill.
Therefore it is irrelevant they could be purchased as a Dedicated Transport elsewhere, as the Vendetta in this scenario clearly is not one.
And even if you could somehow buy a 'dedicated transport' without a unit it was dedicated too, you would not be able to deploy any units inside said transport, because units may only start the game embarked on a dedicated transport if it is there own.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/26 11:44:22
Subject: Can a vendetta carrying allied dark angels scout squad outflank?
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Cosmic Joe
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So just toss a character in there who has outflank, hell there\s warlord traits that can do that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/26 15:19:40
Subject: Can a vendetta carrying allied dark angels scout squad outflank?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Chanceafs,
That was problem number 2... in short, I can't see any way to get that Vendetta to flank using Scout even if it wishes it very very hard.
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8th made it so I can no longer sway Tau onto the side of Chaos, but they will eventually turn aside from their idea of the Greater Good to embrace the Greatest of pleasures. |
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