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I really hope this is just maybe a kit release and not a full release there are plenty of other armies needing updating more especially my beloved blood angels, and my space wolves both of which require updating far more than dark eldar.

Good points.

There were these rumors earlier:

the Haemonculi will be a big focus of the new book as the Wraiths were with the Eldar. There is a possibility of the models being a WD release initially. The Wrack kit doubles as a entirely new unit that focuses on chemical weapons.

The Bane have even more exaggerated proportions that looks like it can rip a Dreadnought to shreads bare handed, very cool.

So the incubi double kit (assuming it's a double kit) could be something haemonculi related...


Also on Faeit (yeah I know the source sucks) were some earlier rumors like these:

via an anonymous source on Faeit 212
The following new Haemonculi will be unleashed upon us all:

1) "Bane" type unit. Bigger than a Grotesque but smaller than a Talos.
May be a new character.
2) New Plastic Wracks (5 per box, dual kit). Includes all weapon upgrades.
3) New Plastic Grotesques (3 per box). Includes all weapon upgrades.
4) Plastic Clampack Haemonculus.

No mention of incubi in the earlier rumors...

And where's the DE lord of war or giant kit? If these rumors are accurate, the "Bane" wouldn't be big enough as the Talos isn't all that large...

I think it more likely that the Incubi will be a double kit with some kind of ranged variant--or possibly something like the Bullgryn, with some kind of shield and melee weapon wielding bodyguard unit for an Archon?

I could see the Wracks coming as a double kit with the standard Wracks and a Spewing Wrack.

Also interesting thought:
What if the supplement is for a "Corsair Fleet" and Incubi double kit is actually for something like the Bladesworn from IA11?

I'd really like to see plastic Incubi, which means that IF we do get them they will be a terrible duel kit like the shadow warriors or 3 to a biz with barely any options like mega nobs.

Fool me twice shame on you GW, fool me three times shame on me!

Right now the price listed for them isn't too horrible, unless they're a 5/model kit.

 Kanluwen wrote:
I think it more likely that the Incubi will be a double kit with some kind of ranged variant--or possibly something like the Bullgryn, with some kind of shield and melee weapon wielding bodyguard unit for an Archon?

Incubi already serve as bodyguards with the current equipment. The ranged variant/Haemonculi unit is more likely.

 Kanluwen wrote:
Right now the price listed for them isn't too horrible, unless they're a 5/model kit.

They obviously are.

Given that they are Elites, probably a 5 model kit. :(

 Kanluwen wrote:
Right now the price listed for them isn't too horrible, unless they're a 5/model kit.

I think it's a reasonable assumption that they will be 5 models/kit.

Maybe they'll give a dual kit incubi inspiring names!! Like Incubi/Ancubi

It isn't impossible that the new Incubi is a 3 man kit if it has full duality....

Min 3 person squad size in Elite units isn't unheard of (and IIRC is already legal for Incubi..)

Yeah but unless they change the size of the models, I doubt it'll be a three-person box. The Grotesque box makes sense as an Ogryn-style 3-model box.

Oh sweet lord cheesus a new dex so soon??

Perhaps the Incubi will have more weapon options instead of just their two handed weapon

A five person box would make more sense.

I'd start hoping this was true, but as an old-school DE fan, I know not to get my hopes up.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Yeah but unless they change the size of the models, I doubt it'll be a three-person box. The Grotesque box makes sense as an Ogryn-style 3-model box.

Really?

You're here basically every day, you see what goes on, and you post that?

MANZ are £38 for 3, I have no issue believing that this rumour could reflect a smaller 3 man box with a lot of options at this price. I honestly don't think that's the likely outcome, but I have no trouble contemplating the possibility.

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
Perhaps the Incubi will have more weapon options instead of just their two handed weapon

What else would you give them? a S+1 AP2 weapon on a WS/I 5 model with 2 attacks is pretty boss.

Unless you get the option of giving the whole unit Demiklaives....

 azreal13 wrote:
It isn't impossible that the new Incubi is a 3 man kit if it has full duality....

Min 3 person squad size in Elite units isn't unheard of (and IIRC is already legal for Incubi..)

No way this happens

 azreal13 wrote:
MANZ are £38 for 3...

And are on big bases. Incubi are not.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 azreal13 wrote:
MANZ are £38 for 3...

And are on big bases. Incubi are not.

And their rumoured price is almost half that of the MANZ.

I'm still not saying it's what I think will happen, but it amuses me people are responding with "nah, they wouldn't" when they continuously demonstrate that they absolutely will, wont do it gently and do it smiling.

At least this has a reliable source.

They better start pumping out some special character models, or the DE are going to loose nearly their entire HQ selection when the book comes out.

Not really. It's a case of what's more likely.

What's more likey:

1. The current FineCost box of 5 Incubi gets replaced by a box of 5 plastic Incubi.
2. The current FineCost box of 5 Incubi gets replaced by a box of 3 Incubi, and the Incubi are changed in size/changed significantly to justify the smaller model count?

Or the kit is dualised with a hitherto unknown unit, and the huge number of extra bits, many of which will be redundant once the kit is built, used to justify the higher price per model.

EDIT

Most new plastic infantry kit for some time have been dual build, or had loads of alternate bits, at least that I can recall.

5 man, elite, units are at a higher price point (thinking Sternguard, Witch Elves etc)

So this either makes it a "pure" 5 man kit, with just the basics, which would be a real step back in time for GW, or it's a dual/multi option kit with fewer bodies.

I wouldn't like to speculate which is more likely right now.

EDIT 2

Actually, after posting, I remembered the IG Stormtroopers box, so I guess a 5 man box with a million ultimately useless bits at this price isn't without precedent, so I expect that's what it'll be.

 A Town Called Malus wrote:

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
Perhaps the Incubi will have more weapon options instead of just their two handed weapon

What else would you give them? a S+1 AP2 weapon on a WS/I 5 model with 2 attacks is pretty boss.

Unless you get the option of giving the whole unit Demiklaives....

That was my line of thinking, I couldn't remember the name of their weapons Last time I played was 3rd Edition

$30 for 5 incubi isn't really that bad. That's what price they were when they originally came out in metal back in 2010. $45 for five Finecast models is a fething joke, so if the plastic sculpts are just as good (or the same) then that's a huge improvement over what's available now.

$81 for the bomber however is just plain stupid. It would have to be a massive kit indeed to justify that price, but I'm imagining it won't be much bigger than a heldrake. Honestly I don't think it'll be much bigger than the razorwing. The razorwing was about $40 at release, the Eldar flyer is comparable in size (even kinda looks the same) and costs a whopping $65, so $80+ seems like the "logical" progression if you're assuming GW is bumping the price up every year.

 azreal13 wrote:

Actually, after posting, I remembered the IG Stormtroopers box, so I guess a 5 man box with a million ultimately useless bits at this price isn't without precedent, so I expect that's what it'll be.

The price that Father Gabe listed is $29.75.

The Scions are $35 per box.

Maybe they'll actually make Wracks/ Grotesques a viable option.

Currently there are far far too many cheaper and better units to take. I love their concept, but you can deal a lot more damage taking other units.

natfka wrote:I would expect that an $81 Voidraven would be a massive model.

I wouldn't.

I added this to the ongoing DE rumors thread.

I'm gonna be so happy if this is true. I had already read the Grotesques/Wracks info. I don't know if this new rumours can give more weight to the previous ones, but I hope at least one of the kits will be true. Any of them will be welcome.

My predictions:

Incubi: 2 handed weapon and one handed weapons with a few special weapon options ala Wyches/WG.

Wracks: Same sort of idea.

Grotesques: As now and 'bane' style mini.

Bomber.

Bigger Talos style thing ?

They'll drop 2 special characters and nerf some gak (haywire and reavers most likely)