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So, I have a couple names, that I was hoping to write in French, but don't know anyone capable of doing the translation, so was looking for some advice- I'd really appreciate any such advice/checking.



The first is "Three Point Comics Games" (likely abbreviated "TPC Games"). The "Three Point" refers to three-point perspective.

So, I'm not sure if the pun of sorts translates, or if french naming structures are different, etc.




The second is "Sophisticated Marseille", referring to the Tarot de Marseille.




I've run it through automated translators, but certainly don't trust them enough for print, but what I got was:

Trois Points Comics Jeux

and

Marseille Sophistiquée or Marseille Sophistiqué (only one e at the end)

Thanks in advance...

The cities in french are all females so the Sophistiquée is correct.

Thanks! Does the Three Point Comics one also look correct?

Is Three Points Comics Games intentionally weird with the plurals?

Should it be Three Points Comics and Games (i.e. a business that sells comics and games)

Or Three Points Comic's Games (i.e. The Company Three Points Comics has made games of their comics)?


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Also, regarding the Tarot, even though cities are feminine, Tarot decks may not be. Let me dig.

It's a bit odd- we've already used Three Point Comics, and are expanding to include a game, and will likely be doing that under TPC Games (because of said problematic double plural), because we were worried that Three Point Games sounded like it could be too sport-related...

edit: also, we'd considered three point comics and games, but felt that that sounded too much like a game store than a company that made things.

Yeah, Tarot decks are masculine.

So basically, what you're saying is this:

(Le Tarot de) Marseille Sophistiqué

The parenthetical part is left out for style reasons (I'm assuming).


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 spiralingcadaver wrote:
It's a bit odd- we've already used Three Point Comics, and are expanding to include a game, and will likely be doing that under TPC Games (because of said problematic double plural), because we were worried that Three Point Games sounded like it could be too sport-related...

Okay, so it is really:

Three Points Comics' Games

The company Three Points Comics owns/manufactures some games now.

Okay, hold on.


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Jeux de Comics Troix Points

(Literally Games of Comics Three Points, french handles adjectives weird)

And by points you mean 'points of reference'?


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Disclaimer: I am not french but I took a lot of french and did some translation 10 years ago for some Quebecois. Get a second opinion.

Hmm, interesting re: the argument for masculine. (And yes, the beginning would be omitted/implied, for style.)

Also, added a note on the full title. There was also a bit of a miscommunication, we'll basically be going as TPC Games as a brand, with the acronym as a reference point to the parent company, rather than explicitly spelled out, so the label itself wouldn't have the double-plural issue.

 spiralingcadaver wrote:
There was also a bit of a miscommunication, we'll basically be going as TPC Games as a brand, with the acronym as a reference point to the parent company, rather than explicitly spelled out, so the label itself wouldn't have the double-plural issue.

Wait, so is it really:
Games that are about Three Point Comics? (In a similar way to RPGs are games that are about role-playing?)
I think that this still works for that version as well:
Jeux de Comics Troix Points

Hmm, so, do french acronyms follow the same structure, so just "Jeux de CTP"?

For points, yes, I guess it would technically be points of reference (rather than score), as in, the drawing technique:



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 pretre wrote:
Wait, so is it really:
Games that are about Three Point Comics? (In a similar way to RPGs are games that are about role-playing?)

We're not sure if we're going to expand to games in general, but at least our first project is a direct tie-in to a comic, so, yes. Also, since the French translation will only be used for this project, it would only need to be appropriate for this individual piece.

 spiralingcadaver wrote:
Hmm, so, do french acronyms follow the same structure, so just "Jeux de CTP"?

For points, yes, I guess it would technically be points of reference (rather than score), as in, the drawing technique:

Interesting. I think that may be a different word. Nope same.

Acronyms work the same in french as english. So yes, Jeux de CTP would work.

Thanks a ton! That was the last bit of info I needed before incorporating the final design elements.

You know who you should double check with is MikhailLenin. He's legitimately fluent in french.

Cool, thanks (again)- I just wrote to him.

Marseille Sophistiqué
Perfect.

Jeux de Comics Troix Points
less than perfect.

Let's see what I can do:

the TPC games
les jeux TPC

The Three Points Comics' Games
les Jeux Comics Trois Points

But it sound a bit weird since "comique" in french means funny and is pronounced "comic" so
les Jeux Comics Trois Points
sounds exactly like
"The funny games, by Three Point" , not really appropriate I suppose.

Thanks for the input! That is a bit of a tricky point...

So, since it will only appear as the acronym, would it make more sense to do Lex Jeux TPC, i.e. using the English name as the basis for the acronym. How, in general, do non-French companies' names appear in French?

Does 'comics' refer to comics books or to comedy or comical stuff in general?
The French term for a comic book is bande dessinée (usually abbreviated BD)
So I would guess that could be abbreviated as TPBD or BDTP for bande dessinée des Trois Points.
I think that if it will only appear as acronym, the English version would work as well. Stuff in France is usually in French because French people rarely speak English, but if the company name is just an acronym, it doesn't really matter of course.

Comics + graphic novels and the like.

Thanks for the advice, leaning towards using the english acronym.