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Scrap it and hang my head in shame
Split it into two documents, one being the more "Fluffy" Miriael's coven, and the other being the Fundex that Im currently making
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Codex is Here:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CbBySCeczWp7Rh0_e5oVSaKTvl_DAcDxDT9GtZaP81o/edit#
After taking into account the massive amount of negative connotation that was generated on both this site and various other 40k communities, I'm drastically changing what they are.
Since chaos sisters EXIST but are few and far between they will make up the HQs and characters of the army. Everyone else will be normal followers of chaos dressed up as them as a sick joke.
This allows for a few different things:
One, it will/can stay moderately fluffy with only a few sisters ever falling to chaos
Two, it will allow me to include non sisters characters that have been brainstormed by the various community members that have put forward ideas.
Three, it will hopefully cut down on the amount of disdain toward the codex and the ideas involved.

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Why is it that Chaos Sisters are always Slaaneshi? Given their violent nature, it really seems that Khorne would be most appropriate if they were going mono-God.

Anyway, the Touched By Slaanesh thing doesn't really make sense. Chaos Space Marines can only take the Mark of Slaanesh, so why would Chaos Sisters additionally get the Daemon special rule? It being specific to the Witch Covens would be cool (for the Daemonology buff), I guess, because Slaanesh would also have to turn them into psykers as Sisters don't have psykers.

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Yeah, I need more time to look over the crunch, but your fluff immediately turns me away because it is so ludicrously predictable and boring.

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The main reason I'm using Slaanesh is Miriael Sabathiel and her fallen sisters. While I can understand your guys' frustration, I'm trying to keep this as fluffy as possible for the sake of the hardcores(though the fact that I have the witches coven kinda spits in the face of that). The other reason I'm picking Slaanesh is because while I favor Khorne on the table, I like the aesthetics of Slaanesh more. I do appreciate the feedback though, I was worried that most people would simply pass over simply because I'm Trying to make a niche appeal codex based on a niche appeal army.


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 Frozen Ocean wrote:
Why is it that Chaos Sisters are always Slaaneshi? Given their violent nature, it really seems that Khorne would be most appropriate if they were going mono-God.

Anyway, the Touched By Slaanesh thing doesn't really make sense. Chaos Space Marines can only take the Mark of Slaanesh, so why would Chaos Sisters additionally get the Daemon special rule? It being specific to the Witch Covens would be cool (for the Daemonology buff), I guess, because Slaanesh would also have to turn them into psykers as Sisters don't have psykers.

My Idea behind Touched by Slaanesh is that the fallen sisters that have the rule are more towards Daemonettes than humans at this point, but I guess I should flavor text that in on the final compilation. And i might just drop the Witches Coven, or have them as a circumstantial thing.

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Re: Name for "Sisters Riding Seekers"
Perhaps "Death Seekers" or "Pain Seekers"? After all, Slaanesh is the Chaos God of Pain, right?


Re: Lady Soriaph
You've probably got something up your sleeve. I reckon it's going to be something a la Tank Commander and that it is an upgrade you can apply to a Penitent Engine, turning the squad into a HQ unit? From there, you could apply 1 or 2 unique weapons (since she sounds like a unique character). As for special rules, I imagine there might be some kind of buff either to her squad alone or perhaps even to all friendly units in the surrounding area? I think Zealot might be fitting, or maybe even "Daemon of Slaanesh" (Fleet, Rending and Run/Flat-out 3'' (6'' if cavalry) further). Also, I feel that having her regenerate HP with each kill seems oddly fitting for some reason.


As for other unit suggestions... Have you considered Daemonettes or Fiends as a Troop or Elite choice?
   
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mr. peasant wrote:
Re: Name for "Sisters Riding Seekers"
Perhaps "Death Seekers" or "Pain Seekers"? After all, Slaanesh is the Chaos God of Pain, right?


Re: Lady Soriaph
You've probably got something up your sleeve. I reckon it's going to be something a la Tank Commander and that it is an upgrade you can apply to a Penitent Engine, turning the squad into a HQ unit? From there, you could apply 1 or 2 unique weapons (since she sounds like a unique character). As for special rules, I imagine there might be some kind of buff either to her squad alone or perhaps even to all friendly units in the surrounding area? I think Zealot might be fitting, or maybe even "Daemon of Slaanesh" (Fleet, Rending and Run/Flat-out 3'' (6'' if cavalry) further). Also, I feel that having her regenerate HP with each kill seems oddly fitting for some reason.


As for other unit suggestions... Have you considered Daemonettes or Fiends as a Troop or Elite choice?

Well, if your playing them how I have it worded, you can take them from the Daemons codex, but if i end up taking that special rule away I don't see why not. Thanks for the name BTW, Ill definitely consider it.
On the topic of Lady Soriaph, That might be what i do. I Really like the idea of her being a bit special. What I forgot to add to the OP is that when you take her, you can take one Corruption engine for each troop choice you already have as a troop choice.



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 curran12 wrote:
Yeah, I need more time to look over the crunch, but your fluff immediately turns me away because it is so ludicrously predictable and boring.

Not much of the Crunch is done yet, im working through HQs first, then going through the modified stuff from the Sister's codex, then on to stuff that will have to be scratch made.

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Personally what would make it more palatable for me (and perhaps others) is if the only "fallen" Sister is Miriael Sabathiel.

The others are just cultists and other followers of Slaanesh who wear the armour of fallen Sororitas as a calculated insult etc?

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 Mr Morden wrote:
Personally what would make it more palatable for me (and perhaps others) is if the only "fallen" Sister is Miriael Sabathiel.

The others are just cultists and other followers of Slaanesh who wear the armour of fallen Sororitas as a calculated insult etc?

While i Know that feeling, Im making this army because im both a sisters and chaos player wand would like to paly both at the same time, with the fluff matching. I apologize if its not exactly "nice" towards your pro sisters mentality, it isnt to mine either, there are cases of fallen sisters and i think there should be rules for them

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I know how you feel, Chaco, but really wouldn't it make more sense for your Sisters to be simply decieved, rather than breaking the Sisters fluff? With the dubious exception of Sabathiel, every other source outright states that there are no fallen Sisters.

Therefore, the only way to use Sisters and Chaos together without breaking a huge part of the fluff that makes the Sisters awesome is to simply have the Sisters believe they're still loyalists.



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 Furyou Miko wrote:
I know how you feel, Chaco, but really wouldn't it make more sense for your Sisters to be simply decieved, rather than breaking the Sisters fluff? With the dubious exception of Sabathiel, every other source outright states that there are no fallen Sisters.

Therefore, the only way to use Sisters and Chaos together without breaking a huge part of the fluff that makes the Sisters awesome is to simply have the Sisters believe they're still loyalists.

Hmmm. Seems like I'm in a Damned if you do, Damned if you don't. One half of people i link this too wanted all the chaos gods, and the other half were appalled that I'm touching their favorite army.

I'm gonna have to say no, I'm still gonna make the Fallen Sisters as actual Fallen sisters. Though I might make a formation where you can take Miriael Sabathiel and a squad or two of loyalists if you guys would rather play with them that way.


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Also, "A full Mission of Sisters of Battle from the Order of the Argent Shroud vowed on Ophelia VII to capture Miriael. All of them swore themselves to Slaanesh after being overwhelmed by the unholy will of Sabathiel. These fallen Sisters now form her retinue." Se there are sisters that are truely devoted to chaos besides Miriael, or at least a canoness and a few dozen squads

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Where's that from?



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 Furyou Miko wrote:
Where's that from?

Apparently from Tales from the Dark Millennium (Anthology), "The Invitation," by Dan Abnett

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Ah. The book about the card game. Heh.



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I Added a poll to gauge on what I should do. By no means have I/ will I stop working on it, but i want to know if I should bother updating this post or most more about it here.

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There are two sets of 'fallen sisters' that I know of - one is a full order in Daemonifuge, and yes, they're taken by a keeper of secrets.

They enter through a warp portal and appear excessively daemonic in appearance - armour and bolters aside - so getting daemon of slaanesh as well as/instead of the mark doesn't seem inappropriate.

The others are from Caine's Last Stand and have been puppet-mastered by an alpha plus level telepath with no particular alignment.

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locarno24 wrote:
The others are from Caine's Last Stand and have been puppet-mastered by an alpha plus level telepath with no particular alignment.


Arguable if those in Last Stand can be considered "Fallen" - they do not have control of their minds or bodies due to the telepath and as soon as released commit suicide.

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