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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/14 10:00:40
Subject: The Ork Horde FoC
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Hardened Veteran Guardsman
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Hi There
Just a fairly simple clarification needed. In the new Ork dex, there is the unique FoC for them; The Ork Horde, which has extra troop & HQ options etc.
My question is, if you want to do a bound army of Orks do you HAVE to use this unique FoC or can you elect to use the standard FoC?
Thanks
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/14 10:10:56
Subject: The Ork Horde FoC
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Waaagh! Warbiker
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It is an option for orkz to use instead of the normal CAD.
It is not mandatory for a battle forged ork army to use it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/14 10:13:48
Subject: The Ork Horde FoC
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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The "how to make an army" section of the rulebook is VERY clear on this - your army is made up of detachments, examples of which are CAD and Ally. So if you have an alternative detachment for use, you CAN use it, you are not REQUIRED to use it
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/14 13:24:41
Subject: The Ork Horde FoC
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Hardened Veteran Guardsman
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Awfeel wrote:
It is an option for orkz to use instead of the normal CAD.
It is not mandatory for a battle forged ork army to use it.
Thank you.
nosferatu1001 wrote:The "how to make an army" section of the rulebook is VERY clear on this - your army is made up of detachments, examples of which are CAD and Ally. So if you have an alternative detachment for use, you CAN use it, you are not REQUIRED to use it
I had read the CODEX and the RULEBOOK but still found the issue CONFUSING, which is why I asked the QUESTION.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/15 00:59:12
Subject: Re:The Ork Horde FoC
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You can use either...but remember, if you use the CAD from BRB you get Objective Secured. If you use the chart from Ork book, you get Hammer of Wrath, but not Objective Secured.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/15 01:48:25
Subject: The Ork Horde FoC
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Diggory_x wrote:I had read the CODEX and the RULEBOOK but still found the issue CONFUSING, which is why I asked the QUESTION.
From 'Selecting Detachments' in the main rulebook (emphasis added for clarity):
You can include any number and any type of Detachments in a Battle-forged army provided you have sufficient units.
What's not clear about that?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/15 02:50:40
Subject: The Ork Horde FoC
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Waaagh! Warbiker
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What's not clear about that?
Well aren't you condescending haha. He just didn't understand man. He wanted it in laymen's. Maybe it's not his first language. Why does it matter ?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/15 05:24:44
Subject: The Ork Horde FoC
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Because when it is spelled out as clearly as that, the answer is usually that they just hadn't read it. If they have genuine confusion then it's better if they explain what they don't understand and why, which the op didn't do.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/15 08:59:04
Subject: The Ork Horde FoC
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Hardened Veteran Guardsman
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Awfeel wrote:
What's not clear about that?
Well aren't you condescending haha. He just didn't understand man. He wanted it in laymen's. Maybe it's not his first language. Why does it matter ?
Exactly this, minus the part about my primary language (I am English). I just wanted a simple answer to something I was a little confused about. I am an amateur player so sometimes the rules are not abundantly clear to me.
Thank you Awfeel for not being a dick about it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/15 09:37:30
Subject: The Ork Horde FoC
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator
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Welcome to YMDC. Don't take it personally
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/15 16:23:37
Subject: The Ork Horde FoC
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Fixture of Dakka
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Not to mention how easy it is to over-look a single sentence, particularly with Game Workshop's love of hiding Rules in odd places.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/15 18:01:23
Subject: The Ork Horde FoC
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Also... sometimes people are confused by things we can't even guess about. So while it can seem snarky (and sometimes that may be the intent) a question like that also serves a purpose.
Did the OP not see that sentence?
Is there a different rule that was creating the confusion?
Is there some interaction that the OP was confused about?
Is there some other rule misunderstanding that led to this misunderstanding?
These questions actually make *more* sense for such clearly written rules. Because it is more likely that there is some other reason that caused the confusion...
No one is calling anyone names....
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