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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/14 10:49:24
Subject: What's your view on 40k?
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Devastating Dark Reaper
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Hi, as I am new to the forums I wanted to know what each people thought of 40k. Are you competitive, fluff or friendly? What's the age range of the community and what's the most popular armies on dakka. Also how do you feel about GW and the decisions they make? I want this to be a thread about how you feel about the hobby.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/14 12:25:30
Subject: What's your view on 40k?
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Repentia Mistress
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Hi Eldarplayer.
I like 40K. I think it's a great game and my gaming group always has fun playing it. I think it's difficult to define a player to be within the 3 categories as I'm sure some parts of each exist in everyone.
And whatever decisions GW makes, it doesn't really bother me. I wouldn't impose my expectations on a company I am not invested in. The only thing I dislike is the high pricing. Although they have done some rather probably irrational things, I don't get all upset by it. If their decisions are unsound, they will have to pay the consequences eventually. If their decisions are sound, it doesn't matter except to their shareholders.
So I like 40K. I have no special feelings for GW.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/14 12:33:26
Subject: Re:What's your view on 40k?
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Lord of the Fleet
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In no particular order; I dislike a lot of the decisions made by GW and think they're actively harming 40k. I'm a fluffy, competitive, and friendly player, and don't associate with one type over another. Most popular armies on Dakka would be hard to say, though there have been many polls about which armies people own/play. Guard is normally pretty high, as are marines. Age of community ranges from the young to the old and everywhere in between.
I enjoy the fluff of 40k, as well as the aesthetics and general feel of the game. Its still a fun game to play with friends, but I find myself moving away from it due to problems with pricing, balance, and quality of the rules.
I am in the middle of overhauling my Guard army, which has me more excited than I care to admit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/14 13:22:21
Subject: What's your view on 40k?
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Disclaimer: My viewpoint is skewed as I do not actively play 40k anymore, largely for the below reasons. Take my opinion as you wish. I like the background and fluff of 40k, and most of the aesthetics of the models. However, I dislike the direction that GW has taken the game; 40k for me was always a skirmish or company-level game, not massive armies, and the fact that the rules have never really changed from 3rd edition (the last real overhaul) means that you have a mass battle game using rules that were written for a company-level game; the two don't mix. I have thought about starting 40k again several times, and every time thus far some combination of the following have made me change my mind: 1) The cost to start and expand is prohibitive; I don't want to spend several hundred dollars just to be able to play normal games (I don't count Kill Team or trivial 1 HQ 2 Troop games as "normal" games). The fact that I can remember things being half the price they are now, with little change to the actual kits (to say nothing of no more metal blister packs) doesn't help. 2) The game is not balanced, and seemingly has no eye towards balance. Going with the above the absolute worst thing would be to spend a few hundred dollars on an army, buying what I think is cool or what fits my theme, only to find that I picked the wrong units and I'll get stomped in games, with my only recourse being to spend *more* money on things that I might not want (e.g. that don't fit my fluff/theme/concept) in order to win. The rules are also poorly written and while I could deal with this (I always preferred RAI over RAW) the complete lack of balance I couldn't. Adding in things like Lords of War, Escalation, Flyers and Fortifications further push the game away from what I considered 40k to be. 3) The overall attitude of GW is one of toxicity and hostility. There's been a lot of anti-GW vitriol and most of it IMO is perfectly warranted as the company seems to have no regard whatsoever for its customers and treats us like simpletons and marks to be conned out of money. Things like raising prices while cutting the number of models (see: Dire Avengers), treating local retailers with disdain, and moving things to direct-only don't help this image. Couple that with what seems like outright clueless business practices (e.g. ignorant of the internet and social media) and this veil of secrecy about everything, and it really feels cold and unwelcoming, a complete 180 from the GW that I remember. Again, take my comments with a grain of salt as I'm not exactly "current" on the game, but I think it's telling that three times I've thought about starting 40k again, and three times I've changed my mind after weighing all the options and doing some research on the state of the game and the armies that I was interested in. Especially due to point #1 (pricing), in that I don't want to spend that much money to *see* if I like the game.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/14 13:45:32
Subject: Re:What's your view on 40k?
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Cosmic Joe
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It's a fun game if you play with a small group of like-minded friends. But then you could have the same fun with much cheaper games and a company that supports the gaming community and listens to feedback.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/14 14:05:43
Subject: What's your view on 40k?
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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Welcome to Dakka!
My view on 40k is generally one of the more positive you'll find on here, I love the game, the rules, the models, the aesthetic and the background. I only play casual games, mostly with friends I've known for a long time, so we don't really have a balance issue as no one is trying to 'break' the game.
I'll always say 40k is what you make it. Take it as a bit of fun with your mates, not too seriously, and focus on telling a good story, and you'll have a great time. Taking it too seriously is generally where people become disillusioned, and I concede that at competitive levels, 40k doesn't really work, but then, it's not really meant to these days.
My opinion on GW is far less positive. I like the product they produce, but I think their pricing is unjustifiably high given the competition doing the same for half the price, their marketing strategy is terrible for the consumer even if it works for them, and on the rare occasions they do something right (like the recent Stormclaw box set), they mess it up (low availability- they'd make far more and it'd be better for us as the customer if it were available long-term).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/14 14:51:51
Subject: What's your view on 40k?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Hi, as I am new to the forums I wanted to know what each people thought of 40k.
My view of 40k is that it supports very cinematic play, and a very high degree of personal customization within your army. Whenever I play a game of 40k, I feel like it is an experience of my own making. This are very positive things, and are things that 40k does much better than other tabletop games.
Are you competitive, fluff or friendly?
All of the above. I love tournaments, I like playing fluffy narrative games, I like playing friendly game (whether teaching someone, or just playing weird lists to see what happens).
What's the age range of the community and what's the most popular armies on dakka.
The age range of the 40k skews towards the older, as they have the money to really afford to play.
There was a poll awhile back about what armies people play - I can't find it know, but the armies of the Imperium were fairly popular, as are Eldar and Chaos. I think Dark Eldar, Tau and Orks are significantly less popular.
Also how do you feel about GW and the decisions they make? I want this to be a thread about how you feel about the hobby.
My view about GW is very negative. I normally don't care about the owner of the game, but GW's actions are directly affecting me when I play the game - they continually release updates that negatively affect gameplay and player choice. Their rules are highly fragmented and expensive, so I have a very difficult time just keeping track of what's current. I would love it if someone took up the torch of making a good fan-made rule system, as it would allow me to divorce myself from GW.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/14 15:20:42
Subject: What's your view on 40k?
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Tea-Kettle of Blood
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DanielBeaver wrote:Hi, as I am new to the forums I wanted to know what each people thought of 40k.
My view of 40k is that it supports very cinematic play, and a very high degree of personal customization within your army. Whenever I play a game of 40k, I feel like it is an experience of my own making. This are very positive things, and are things that 40k does much better than other tabletop games.
In what way does 40k's move-shoot-assault mechanic supports 'cinematic' play better than a system and allows models to vault between buildings while actively dodging incoming fire, before he hacks a close by enemy mech and uses it to shoot its former controller in a hail of rail gun fire?
And how do you feel that its "an experience of your own making", when everything except the basic move of a unit is decided by random chance?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/14 15:22:51
Subject: What's your view on 40k?
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Thane of Dol Guldur
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I like 40k because its an over-the-top sci-fi game with a million different weapons and a million different special rules, with endless list building options. You never ever get the same game twice. I also understand these are the very reasons why some people dislike 40k.
The models are on the whole are awesome as well, IMO.
My gripes against 40k boil down to two main issues: 1) prices that border on indecency, and 2) DLC.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/14 15:29:44
Subject: What's your view on 40k?
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
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jasper76 wrote:I like 40k because its an over-the-top sci-fi game with a million different weapons and a million different special rules, with endless list building options. You never ever get the same game twice. I also understand these are the very reasons why some people dislike 40k. I agree to a point on this, but I think the reason some dislike 40k due to that is because the choices range from outright garbage to insanely good. So it's not really "endless list building options" since you can, quite easily, build a list with units you like that are ineffective at the game, and only a handful of choices are actually useful barring outlying circumstances.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/14 15:30:49
Subject: What's your view on 40k?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I like 40k because it doesn't suck. 30k is pretty cool, too. I am enjoying the 30k books and am working on a 30k army.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/14 15:32:28
Subject: What's your view on 40k?
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Thane of Dol Guldur
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WayneTheGame wrote:I agree to a point on this, but I think the reason some dislike 40k due to that is because the choices range from outright garbage to insanely good. So it's not really "endless list building options" since you can, quite easily, build a list with units you like that are ineffective at the game, and only a handful of choices are actually useful barring outlying circumstances.
Playing with suboptimal units can be fun. Winning with suboptimal units is always fun. However, your point is taken.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/14 15:40:13
Subject: Re:What's your view on 40k?
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Pustulating Plague Priest
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I LOVE the game. Despite the unbalance, I really enjoy the rules. The fluff for the game is some of the best I've ever seen, with a dystopian, over the top, sci-fi/ fantasy tone and with a feel that makes the fluff more free for change than others. The models (in my opinion) are ones that show a good amount of character. The rules even allow for some ridiculous events to pop out, such as giant alien snakes being annihilated by small green people.
As for GW, I'm not as positive towards them. Their models, while very good, I've found are very expensive. Their business-like feel instead of the friendlier player-oriented company (well... that's how I saw it anyway) just feels distant and gives off a feeling that they simply don't care what happens to the game. Of course, that's just my perspective.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/14 15:48:31
Subject: Re:What's your view on 40k?
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Been Around the Block
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I am a mix between competitive and friendly. I'm not an uber-competitive player who builds a new net list every year, but I do like winning. I try to find a good balance between having competition and having fun. As far as the fluff goes, I LOVE it! I find 40k to have one of the most immersive universes in wargaming. I am a huge fan of the Black Library novels, and I think they help me keep interest in the game.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/14 15:59:51
Subject: Re:What's your view on 40k?
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Pragmatic Primus Commanding Cult Forces
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I play only for fluff and nice models. Apart from Warhammer Fantasy, there is no game that allows so much freedom and has such an extensive background.
The setting is what makes 40k enjoyable. Game-wise, there are much better designed and exciting rulesets available. When I want a challenging game, I play WHFB or Dystopian Wars (I really recommend that last one).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/14 16:01:49
Subject: What's your view on 40k?
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Foxy Wildborne
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I enjoy all the aspects except the crazy imbalanced rules we've had the past 3 editions, so I made my own.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/14 16:14:13
Subject: What's your view on 40k?
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Monstrous Master Moulder
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I play for fun. I don't take the game very serious because of the imbalance. I understand why GW gave up on hosting tournaments. When I want to waste time rolling dice and hanging with some buddies it's the right game. If the game was balanced I am sure I would take it more serious like I do with other games.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/14 16:16:17
Subject: What's your view on 40k?
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My view of 40K is that GW needs to go out of business so someone else can buy the IP and make a balanced game.
Fluff, setting and models, great!
Rules, prices and GW's view on the world, terrible!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/14 16:23:21
Subject: What's your view on 40k?
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Been Around the Block
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Chute82 wrote:I play for fun. I don't take the game very serious because of the imbalance. I understand why GW gave up on hosting tournaments. When I want to waste time rolling dice and hanging with some buddies it's the right game. If the game was balanced I am sure I would take it more serious like I do with other games.
The imbalance can be annoying, but think about it this way: If you're playing against Eldar, Tau, and Chaos Daemons, you can't really lose. You're not expected to win, so, if you lose NO PROBLEM! If you win, feel great knowing you beat an overpowered army. That's just my optimistic view, feel free to disagree.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/14 16:24:42
Subject: What's your view on 40k?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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PhantomViper wrote:In what way does 40k's move-shoot-assault mechanic supports 'cinematic' play better than a system and allows models to vault between buildings while actively dodging incoming fire, before he hacks a close by enemy mech and uses it to shoot its former controller in a hail of rail gun fire?
By having very good models that are pose-able and have lots of bits (and tons of options within the rules for per-model equipment customization). That, combined with the scale of the game (it hits a sweet spot for me, with between 50-200 models on the table, with a few vehicles, monsters and big stompy robots), makes it look very cool on the table. I assume that you're referring Infinity, or some related wargame - I've been very underwhelmed by Infinity, I don't like the lack of customization, I don't like how the models just have a single pose, I don't like how small the scale is, I don't like just using one d20 all the time (I love chucking dozens of dice). W40k and WHFB just look so much cooler on the table, feel so much bigger in scale, feel so personalized (this is MY army, not just some generic dudes). I've been playing Warmahordes, Infinity and a bit of Flames of War lately... and only FoW comes close to offering the same sense of scale, and none of them offer the level of personal customization I'm used to in 40k.
And how do you feel that its "an experience of your own making", when everything except the basic move of a unit is decided by random chance?
The list-building and equipment customization combined with the modeling aspect, mostly. And every dice-based tabletop game has random chance - what's your point?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/14 16:26:34
Subject: What's your view on 40k?
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Cosmic Joe
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DanielBeaver wrote:PhantomViper wrote:In what way does 40k's move-shoot-assault mechanic supports 'cinematic' play better than a system and allows models to vault between buildings while actively dodging incoming fire, before he hacks a close by enemy mech and uses it to shoot its former controller in a hail of rail gun fire?
By having very good models that are pose-able and have lots of bits (and tons of options within the rules for per-model equipment customization). That, combined with the scale of the game (it hits a sweet spot for me, with between 50-200 models on the table, with a few vehicles, monsters and big stompy robots), makes it look very cool on the table. I assume that you're referring Infinity, or some related wargame - I've been very underwhelmed by Infinity, I don't like the lack of customization, I don't like how the models just have a single pose, I don't like how small the scale is, I don't like the fiddly d20 system (I love chucking dozens of dice). W40k and WHFB just look so much cooler on the table, feel so much bigger in scale, feel so personalized (this is MY army, not just some generic dudes). I've been playing Warmahordes, Infinity and a bit of Flames of War lately... and only FoW comes close to offering the same sense of scale, and none of them offer the level of personal customization I'm used to in 40k.
And how do you feel that its "an experience of your own making", when everything except the basic move of a unit is decided by random chance?
The list-building and equipment customization combined with the modeling aspect, mostly. And every dice-based tabletop game has random chance - what's your point?
I think he was asking how the rules make the game more cinematic.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/14 16:47:08
Subject: What's your view on 40k?
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They don't, the rules suck. But 40k is more than just a rulebook.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/14 16:48:33
Subject: What's your view on 40k?
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They don't, the rules suck. But 40k is more than just a rulebook.
Read my previous post on this.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/14 16:50:10
Subject: What's your view on 40k?
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I love 40k/GW. They make the best models imo, have amazing backstory/fluff and its a wicked fun game.
Some will cite a lack of balance but honestly the game has been unbalanced since 2nd edition. I prefer its not perfectly balanced. Frankly I'd be bored with that. I like playing uphill. I have a eldar army and I prefer my WFB Beastmen to play right now. They are terrible and its alot of fun to play them. Makes me a better player.
I am a fluff, competitive and friendly player. My favorite thing is teaching people how to play. I mean HOW. Rules, etiquette, painting and gamesmenship.
I like GW they have never done me wrong. How could they? They are a company. A company trying new things in a new age to stay in business. I like the approach they are using.
Prices... Ehh.. I look at a 1000 dollar purchase for an army like an investment. An investment of my own pleasure. I wont get my money back in a traditional sense but the enjoyment, happiness and friendships it has brought me far outweighs the money. As far as hobbies go I think its right in line. My kids video games are just as expensive, my dads motorcycle is more expensive, my brothers hunting is cheaper and my old season tickets to the Browns were waaaaaayyyyy more expensive.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/14 16:57:32
Subject: What's your view on 40k?
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40k Wargamer wrote: Chute82 wrote:I play for fun. I don't take the game very serious because of the imbalance. I understand why GW gave up on hosting tournaments. When I want to waste time rolling dice and hanging with some buddies it's the right game. If the game was balanced I am sure I would take it more serious like I do with other games.
The imbalance can be annoying, but think about it this way: If you're playing against Eldar, Tau, and Chaos Daemons, you can't really lose. You're not expected to win, so, if you lose NO PROBLEM! If you win, feel great knowing you beat an overpowered army. That's just my optimistic view, feel free to disagree.
No I agree with you 100%. My buddies play all the top tier armies and I just play my orks. They take the game way to serious and I just laugh it off. Only been to one tournament in the past few yrs where I won 1st place out of 40 people,as the most fun person to play against. Got me $80 in a gift card and a sword.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/14 17:04:06
Subject: What's your view on 40k?
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Preacher of the Emperor
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But when you stop getting that happiness then you start to feel ripped off.
My other hobby is arguably more expensive, but my friends are there and...well it's not a game so no one can ever ruin it for me (you can't mess up posing a doll in a field).
40K is, no was, a good game, back in 3rd and 4th it was the game! I dabbled in fantasy but it wasn't until 5th came along I really flipped over and went into fantasy, though I dabbled in 40k here and there, and when 6th came along I dropped it in favour of fantasy.
Now with 7th, I have no real interest in playing it. I took a gander at the rules and it is too fantasy for me...so I just continue with fantasy (though it is none to popular here so I am painting Warmachine).
I remember I was told I'd have to have a tablet to get the Sisters' codex which I scoffed at and simply said "then I'm not playing that!" (I still will get some of the models bit my GW wargaming days are over, I can't afford it anymore, and even if I could (second hand) I don't want to. It's not fun anymore.
I don't fault GW for acting like a business, I fault them for acting like a bad business.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/14 17:10:16
Subject: What's your view on 40k?
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WayneTheGame wrote:Disclaimer: My viewpoint is skewed as I do not actively play 40k anymore, largely for the below reasons. Take my opinion as you wish.
I like the background and fluff of 40k, and most of the aesthetics of the models. However, I dislike the direction that GW has taken the game; 40k for me was always a skirmish or company-level game, not massive armies, and the fact that the rules have never really changed from 3rd edition (the last real overhaul) means that you have a mass battle game using rules that were written for a company-level game; the two don't mix.
I have thought about starting 40k again several times, and every time thus far some combination of the following have made me change my mind:
1) The cost to start and expand is prohibitive; I don't want to spend several hundred dollars just to be able to play normal games (I don't count Kill Team or trivial 1 HQ 2 Troop games as "normal" games). The fact that I can remember things being half the price they are now, with little change to the actual kits (to say nothing of no more metal blister packs) doesn't help.
2) The game is not balanced, and seemingly has no eye towards balance. Going with the above the absolute worst thing would be to spend a few hundred dollars on an army, buying what I think is cool or what fits my theme, only to find that I picked the wrong units and I'll get stomped in games, with my only recourse being to spend *more* money on things that I might not want (e.g. that don't fit my fluff/theme/concept) in order to win. The rules are also poorly written and while I could deal with this (I always preferred RAI over RAW) the complete lack of balance I couldn't. Adding in things like Lords of War, Escalation, Flyers and Fortifications further push the game away from what I considered 40k to be.
3) The overall attitude of GW is one of toxicity and hostility. There's been a lot of anti- GW vitriol and most of it IMO is perfectly warranted as the company seems to have no regard whatsoever for its customers and treats us like simpletons and marks to be conned out of money. Things like raising prices while cutting the number of models (see: Dire Avengers), treating local retailers with disdain, and moving things to direct-only don't help this image. Couple that with what seems like outright clueless business practices (e.g. ignorant of the internet and social media) and this veil of secrecy about everything, and it really feels cold and unwelcoming, a complete 180 from the GW that I remember.
Again, take my comments with a grain of salt as I'm not exactly "current" on the game, but I think it's telling that three times I've thought about starting 40k again, and three times I've changed my mind after weighing all the options and doing some research on the state of the game and the armies that I was interested in. Especially due to point #1 (pricing), in that I don't want to spend that much money to *see* if I like the game.
To save typing out a lengthy post- Pretty much the above.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/14 17:16:05
Subject: What's your view on 40k?
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lobbywatson wrote:I love 40k/ GW. They make the best models imo, have amazing backstory/fluff and its a wicked fun game.
Some will cite a lack of balance but honestly the game has been unbalanced since 2nd edition. I prefer its not perfectly balanced. Frankly I'd be bored with that. I like playing uphill. I have a eldar army and I prefer my WFB Beastmen to play right now. They are terrible and its alot of fun to play them. Makes me a better player.
I am a fluff, competitive and friendly player. My favorite thing is teaching people how to play. I mean HOW. Rules, etiquette, painting and gamesmenship.
I like GW they have never done me wrong. How could they? They are a company. A company trying new things in a new age to stay in business. I like the approach they are using.
Prices... Ehh.. I look at a 1000 dollar purchase for an army like an investment. An investment of my own pleasure. I wont get my money back in a traditional sense but the enjoyment, happiness and friendships it has brought me far outweighs the money. As far as hobbies go I think its right in line. My kids video games are just as expensive, my dads motorcycle is more expensive, my brothers hunting is cheaper and my old season tickets to the Browns were waaaaaayyyyy more expensive.
I'm glad to see a positive outlook on GW for once.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/14 17:22:44
Subject: What's your view on 40k?
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Rainbow Dash wrote:I remember I was told I'd have to have a tablet to get the Sisters' codex which I scoffed at and simply said "then I'm not playing that!"...I don't fault GW for acting like a business, I fault them for acting like a bad business.
I couldn't give a hoot about GW selling digital products, but it really gripes me that they sell digital ONLY products. 40K is a game of real models on real tables with real books....at least for me and lots of people I play with. The only Sistsers player in our group bought the digital codex only to print it off. So he double-paid for it...(a) once for the file, and (b) next for the paper and ink and folder to have some semblance of an actual book.
I play 40k to get away from looking at the zombie screen.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/14 17:43:55
Subject: What's your view on 40k?
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Preacher of the Emperor
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jasper76 wrote: Rainbow Dash wrote:I remember I was told I'd have to have a tablet to get the Sisters' codex which I scoffed at and simply said "then I'm not playing that!"...I don't fault GW for acting like a business, I fault them for acting like a bad business.
I couldn't give a hoot about GW selling digital products, but it really gripes me that they sell digital ONLY products. 40K is a game of real models on real tables with real books....at least for me and lots of people I play with. The only Sistsers player in our group bought the digital codex only to print it off. So he double-paid for it...(a) once for the file, and (b) next for the paper and ink and folder to have some semblance of an actual book.
I play 40k to get away from looking at the zombie screen.
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Very true, that and they charge the same for the digital as the physical
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