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2014/07/14 17:29:00
Subject: Dark Eldar - Harlequin Shuriken Pistol - 7th Edition
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Hi everyone,
The current Dark Eldar Codex states to check the 40,000 rulebook for Shuriken Pistol weapon stats, but I don't think the new 7th edition book has the stats.
Didn't see anything called out in the latest FAQs either.
I've attempted some searches for the answer but I wasn't able to find anything recent to 7th edition.
Anyone know where to go from here or have a good idea to appropriately interpret the rules?
Thanks!
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2014/07/14 17:44:04
Subject: Dark Eldar - Harlequin Shuriken Pistol - 7th Edition
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Rampaging Carnifex
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That's interesting... if it isn't in the 7th edition rulebook then I'd say you must use the Eldar codex's rules for it since that is the only other place in the current rules that has a Shurikan Pistol.
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2014/07/14 17:45:22
Subject: Dark Eldar - Harlequin Shuriken Pistol - 7th Edition
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Was there any significant difference between 6th and codex?
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 Unit1126PLL wrote: Scott-S6 wrote:And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.
Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!
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2014/07/14 17:50:54
Subject: Dark Eldar - Harlequin Shuriken Pistol - 7th Edition
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Rampaging Carnifex
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I don't think the 6th rulebook had the Bladestorm special rule since that didn't come out for Eldar until the 6th Eldar codex.
So using the Eldar codex vs the 6th edition rulebook's version would be a significant buff. (giving the pistols auto-wounds with AP2 on 6s)
In this case I'd use the newer rules.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/07/14 17:52:32
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2014/07/14 17:58:10
Subject: Dark Eldar - Harlequin Shuriken Pistol - 7th Edition
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Fresh-Faced New User
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If we reference the latest Eldar codex for Shuriken Pistol stats, what is the thought regarding the Shrieker Cannon?
I ask because the Shrieker cannon is listed with Bladestorm weapons along with the Shuriken Pistol in the Eldar codex.
Continue to use the DE Codex for Shrieker (No Bladestorm) or use the stats in the Eldar codex?
Thanks for your thoughts.
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2014/07/17 02:18:56
Subject: Dark Eldar - Harlequin Shuriken Pistol - 7th Edition
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Swift Swooping Hawk
England, Sunderland, Hetton-Le-Hole
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The Shrieker Cannon has rules in the codex for it. So you go by those rules. Just like for the unit itself you go by its entry in the Dark Eldar codex if taken in a Dark Eldar detachment. You would use the entries in the Eldar codex if the unit was taken as part of an Eldar detachment.
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2014/07/17 03:46:59
Subject: Dark Eldar - Harlequin Shuriken Pistol - 7th Edition
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Killer Klaivex
Oceanside, CA
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The cannon is in the DE book, you'd use the DE rules.
The pistol has no rules at all. You're told to reference to a book that does not have the rules.
Best solution seems to be using the only current rules, the one in codex: eldar.
It's kind of silly that the units are identical, but one unit gets a rending cannon and one doesn't.
-Matt
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2014/07/18 05:05:41
Subject: Dark Eldar - Harlequin Shuriken Pistol - 7th Edition
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Deadly Dire Avenger
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Yeah I agree, use the latest rules, as the Harlequins are the same unit just in a different codex the update to shuriken weapons should apply.
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 It is the rule in war, if ten times the enemy's strength, surround them; if five times, attack them; if double, be able to divide them; if equal, engage them; if fewer, be able to evade them; if weaker, be able to avoid them. - Sun Tzu |
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2014/07/19 00:02:11
Subject: Dark Eldar - Harlequin Shuriken Pistol - 7th Edition
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Swift Swooping Hawk
England, Sunderland, Hetton-Le-Hole
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 CorpseCommander wrote:Yeah I agree, use the latest rules, as the Harlequins are the same unit just in a different codex the update to shuriken weapons should apply.
Do not use codex Eldar rules for the entire unit as there are alread rules in the DE codex. That would be like Blood Angels using rules and points costs from codex SM on overlapping units. If there are no rules in the codex or present in the BRB only then would it be acceptable to refer to a different codex for a unit or piece of wargear.
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2014/07/19 15:24:55
Subject: Dark Eldar - Harlequin Shuriken Pistol - 7th Edition
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Killer Klaivex
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 redkeyboard wrote: CorpseCommander wrote:Yeah I agree, use the latest rules, as the Harlequins are the same unit just in a different codex the update to shuriken weapons should apply.
Do not use codex Eldar rules for the entire unit as there are alread rules in the DE codex. That would be like Blood Angels using rules and points costs from codex SM on overlapping units. If there are no rules in the codex or present in the BRB only then would it be acceptable to refer to a different codex for a unit or piece of wargear.
That's not a correct comparison. Blood angles and codex space marines are different. Harlequins and Harlequins are not. The only difference is the one gun statline is updated, and the other no long has existing rules.
Harlequins are neither dark eldar nor craftworld; they do not have Battle Fate, nor do they have Power from Pain.
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