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sturguard wrote:
Malthor do you have the Lone Wolves entry handy?

Not at the moment, but ask away anyway, maybe I remember what you want to know^^

I think Armor of Russ is 35 points, Helmet is 20 or 25, I am not sure, and unless it is a misprint in the German codex it lets you reroll all to hit rolls, not only for shooting which comes in pretty handy for me and my tendency to roll only crap in CC

I am wanting to find out if Lone Wolves take up an elite slot if other units are taken. Someone had said something along the lines of "you can take a Lone Wolf free of FOC requirements for every unit of GHs, or BCs or WG" I just wanted to find out if there is any accuracy in that rumor.
Thanks.

 Mr Morden wrote:

 pretre wrote:
So apparently drop pods are a fast attack choice... Which mean battle brother squads in drop pods...

Finlaly a way to have the Sisters in Drop Pods

Or grey knights, oh glorius drop pods for my grey knights !!! Finally. I could go primary wolves jsut to get 3 fas attack pods tbh.

Posted on the other thread:

"You get one Lone Wolf per Grey Hunter or Wolf Guard Pack."

sturguard wrote:
I am wanting to find out if Lone Wolves take up an elite slot if other units are taken. Someone had said something along the lines of "you can take a Lone Wolf free of FOC requirements for every unit of GHs, or BCs or WG" I just wanted to find out if there is any accuracy in that rumor.
Thanks.

EDIT:

Yup, that's true

Drop Pods compete with Thunderwolves. Just saying. Can't see pure SW using Pods in the FA slots.

 Deadshot wrote:
Drop Pods compete with Thunderwolves. Just saying. Can't see pure SW using Pods in the FA slots.

That actually goes back to what I was saying, it makes complete sense for SW drop pod armies. In all drop list you won't use any FA slot normally. Now you have something to take, and it allows you to put WGTDA in them.

Though personally, new Deathwolf+TWC+outflank sounds like it would be a lot more fun, even in a drop list.

Harald Deathwolf with 6 TWC sounds like overkill. If you made it to combat you wreck face.

I personally just want to have Harald lead a squad vs Ork Burnas, Eldar Fire Dragons or a Sisters flamer squad.

The cool bit about TWC is that they get a pack leader now so he can eat challenges (give him a SS) instead of your non-EW character.

Waiting to see the exact rules for Pods in the FA. If you can put allies in those, Sisters just got a new boost.

 Uriels_Flame wrote:
Waiting to see the exact rules for Pods in the FA. If you can put allies in those, Sisters just got a new boost.

Very much this. I could definitely see a SW / Sisters ally army.

SW Primary with 2 FA Pods and a bunch of troop pods
SOB Allies with a Dominion Squad and a Retributor Squad (HF).

Muhahahahah

Pray tell me brothers, what of Ragnar? I haven't seen anything on him.

Yeah, since they can give other armies pods, sw have made themselves the pod masters. I can't see running any other codex as main if you like dp lists.

Tyranids lose their pods, sw find extras. Poor Tyranids.

 Bulldogging wrote:
Yeah, since they can give other armies pods, sw have made themselves the pod masters. I can't see running any other codex as main if you like dp lists.

Tyranids lose their pods, sw find extras. Poor Tyranids.

Please stop with the feeling sorry for nids posts. I can't take much more sympathy, I might do a cry!!!

So can the Wolves use more than one Relic on a single character - many Codexes can't?

All I can see now it a Wolf Lord trying to lure some Sisters into the Pod just before the battle with Candy.

 Bulldogging wrote:

 Deadshot wrote:
Drop Pods compete with Thunderwolves. Just saying. Can't see pure SW using Pods in the FA slots.

That actually goes back to what I was saying, it makes complete sense for SW drop pod armies. In all drop list you won't use any FA slot normally. Now you have something to take, and it allows you to put WGTDA in them.

Though personally, new Deathwolf+TWC+outflank sounds like it would be a lot more fun, even in a drop list.

I still don't understand why people want to outflank TWC units. You go from a turn 2 charge to a turn 3 at best. Its not as if they are fragile units.

Im not seeing the rule... you pulling my leg on this one?

Reljcs say only 1 of each can be chosen per army ... so leaves it open. I suppose you could use all 6 ?

Ragnar can reroll 1 failed save per assault phase.

Great axe is S x2 and AP2 and MC! Not unweildly but dread only.

 Anpu42 wrote:
All I can see now it a Wolf Lord trying to lure some Sisters into the Pod just before the battle with Candy.

Even space women crave chocolate

 Red Corsair wrote:

 Bulldogging wrote:

 Deadshot wrote:
Drop Pods compete with Thunderwolves. Just saying. Can't see pure SW using Pods in the FA slots.

That actually goes back to what I was saying, it makes complete sense for SW drop pod armies. In all drop list you won't use any FA slot normally. Now you have something to take, and it allows you to put WGTDA in them.

Though personally, new Deathwolf+TWC+outflank sounds like it would be a lot more fun, even in a drop list.

I still don't understand why people want to outflank TWC units. You go from a turn 2 charge to a turn 3 at best. Its not as if they are fragile units.

Depends on deployment, who you're fighting, and who goes first, like all matches. Against some armies, and some placement, they are just cannon fodder. While durable, they aren't that hard for some armies to kill.

Some matches you can absolutely just run them across the table, others, not so much.

I agree in general though, I hate reserves.

Well anyone that can dust them in 1-2 turns will still be able to after they outflank. No assault from reserve ruined this tactic. I just don't see why you would ever place 500+ points of assault into reserve ever to be honest.

In larger games outflanking TWC can cause Chaos coming in your opponent's backfield. if you can time it right you can put a serious squeeze of a key unit.

Example: A Riptide has been causing you trouble, now all of a sudden he has a choice of the Grey Hunters with Plasma Guns that just podded next to him or the TWC with Harald behind him. he know he cant bee assaulted, but next turn he will be unless he kills off both of them. If he fails to kill off the TWC will get to him next turn unless he runs.

 Anpu42 wrote:
In larger games outflanking TWC can cause Chaos coming in your opponent's backfield. if you can time it right you can put a serious squeeze of a key unit.

Example: A Riptide has been causing you trouble, now all of a sudden he has a choice of the Grey Hunters with Plasma Guns that just podded next to him or the TWC with Harald behind him. he know he cant bee assaulted, but next turn he will be unless he kills off both of them. If he fails to kill off the TWC will get to him next turn unless he runs.

The same is true if they are on the board though, but instead you're having this conversation on turn 1.

I'm with Red Corsair, an absolute waste reserving a unit like that. You're not even guaranteed they'll arrive on turn 2. Most boards have loads of cover, use that and you're in combat turn two normally. And beating said riptides face in.

 Khaine's Wrath wrote:
I'm with Red Corsair, an absolute waste reserving a unit like that. You're not even guaranteed they'll arrive on turn 2. Most boards have loads of cover, use that and you're in combat turn two normally. And beating said riptides face in.

F Cover. We have cheap storm shields!

 Anpu42 wrote:
All I can see now it a Wolf Lord trying to lure some Sisters into the Pod just before the battle with Candy.

Damnit, now I need to buy a new drop pod.

 Lansirill wrote:

 Anpu42 wrote:
All I can see now it a Wolf Lord trying to lure some Sisters into the Pod just before the battle with Candy.

Damnit, now I need to buy a new drop pod.

I've run really successful SW/SOB teamups in 6th edition. This drop pod thing means I may do it again in 7th.

HQ
Bjorn fellhand (Hellfrost cannon, drop pod, locator beacon)

Rune priest

Troops
5 Grey hunters (plasma gun, drop pod)
5 Grey hunters (plasma gun, drop pod)
10 Grey hunters (2 meltaguns, wolf guard combimelta, drop pod)
10 Grey hunters (2 plasma guns, wolf guard combiplasma, wolf banner drop pod)

Elite
Venerable dread (Axe+shield, extra armour, drop pod)
Murderfang (drop pod)
Venerable dread (extra armour, drop pod)
Lone wolf (terminator, powerfist, combimelta)
Lone wolf (terminator, powerfist, combimelta)
Lone wolf (terminator, powerfist, combimelta)
Lone wolf (terminator, powerfist, combimelta)

Heavy support
Vindicator
Vindicator

I dont have codex but have been looking around for rumors, this should be a pretty decent 1850-ish list, might be 1900-something but it probably need some tuning anyway

 pretre wrote:

 Anpu42 wrote:
In larger games outflanking TWC can cause Chaos coming in your opponent's backfield. if you can time it right you can put a serious squeeze of a key unit.

Example: A Riptide has been causing you trouble, now all of a sudden he has a choice of the Grey Hunters with Plasma Guns that just podded next to him or the TWC with Harald behind him. he know he cant bee assaulted, but next turn he will be unless he kills off both of them. If he fails to kill off the TWC will get to him next turn unless he runs.

The same is true if they are on the board though, but instead you're having this conversation on turn 1.

Not completely true.
You could spend 3 turns chasing the one riptide while his army blast the TWC trying to get close.
>Just knowing that the TWC is going to outflank him as some point will also force him to keep that into consideration during deployment. To keep his important units safe he will have to keep all of his units bunched up near the center of the board making it easier concentrate fire on them.
>It also keeps them save from 1st turn fire.
>Lets say you come in late, he now have an untouched Deathstar to contend with.

Outflanking in not about getting your units into Melee, it is about forcing him to be on the defensive and making him do what YOU want him to do.

SlyasR wrote:
HQ
Bjorn fellhand (Hellfrost cannon, drop pod, locator beacon)

Rune priest

Troops
5 Grey hunters (plasma gun, drop pod)
5 Grey hunters (plasma gun, drop pod)
10 Grey hunters (2 meltaguns, wolf guard combimelta, drop pod)
10 Grey hunters (2 plasma guns, wolf guard combiplasma, wolf banner drop pod)

Elite
Venerable dread (Axe+shield, extra armour, drop pod)
Murderfang (drop pod)
Venerable dread (extra armour, drop pod)
Lone wolf (terminator, powerfist, combimelta)
Lone wolf (terminator, powerfist, combimelta)
Lone wolf (terminator, powerfist, combimelta)
Lone wolf (terminator, powerfist, combimelta)

Heavy support
Vindicator
Vindicator

I dont have codex but have been looking around for rumors, this should be a pretty decent 1850-ish list, might be 1900-something but it probably need some tuning anyway

Not sure why you'd want the vindicators in there... You could swap them out for allied pods or just more of your own pods.


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 Anpu42 wrote:
Not completely true.
You could spend 3 turns chasing the one riptide while his army blast the TWC trying to get close.

What? When does that ever happen? If your TWC are alive, you're charging something turn 2, even if it isn't the riptide. Then you consolidate off them and rinse repeat.

Outflanking in not about getting your units into Melee, it is about forcing him to be on the defensive and making him do what YOU want him to do.

WHile I agree, I don't agree that a big TWC is the unit for that. Them being on the board takes a lot of fire off the rest of your army and gives you a turn 2 assault.