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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/27 01:25:39
Subject: Re:Mantic Dungeon Saga Kickstarter - $570k stretch goal: free Abyssal Moloch
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Haughty Harad Serpent Rider
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highlord tamburlaine wrote:I like the stumpy legs on them. If they're that good of warrior, they don't need to be in such a big rush.
If you're too unhappy with them (I won't be) just replace them with these guys(or use them in addition to, like I will), as I can't think of many more badass demons than these:
As a huge Mierce fanboy I approve but I also realize that fielding just a couple of those guys is the equivalent of the entire $100 pledge
A Mierce dungeoncrawler game would be amazing... but also cost about a thousand bucks for the models
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/27 01:31:20
Subject: Mantic Dungeon Saga Kickstarter - $570k stretch goal: free Abyssal Moloch
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[DCM]
Dankhold Troggoth
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I really like that Abyssal Moloch art! If someone is looking to part with theirs after receiving their horde 'o minis a year from now, look me up
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/27 01:44:12
Subject: Mantic Dungeon Saga Kickstarter - $570k stretch goal: free Abyssal Moloch
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Pyre Troll
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GrimDork wrote:Their explanation for only doing one or so at a time is to maintain flexibility. If they see a slump or feel that another goal next would make things go better, they can swap it out this way, whereas if they were showing 3 goals out it would be harder to change without upsetting somebody. At least I think that's what they said at some point.
i get not having like 4 or 5..but maybe like the currently and then the 1 after it
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/27 01:53:43
Subject: Re:Mantic Dungeon Saga Kickstarter - $570k stretch goal: free Abyssal Moloch
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Experienced Saurus Scar-Veteran
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Hell, a $1000 Mierce dungeon crawler? Don't tell me you wouldn't give it some serious thought! That'd be like the blinged out Cthulhu Wars end all be all of dungeon crawls. It would be GLORIOUS.
Back to Dungeon Sagas though!
We may see a few more stretches cropping up as those final days start ticking down. It wouldn't surprise me.
Tomorrow's add on is going to be the make it or break it one I think. We may see all kinds of goodies they've been holding back. I wouldn't be surprised to see some sort of optional bosses or characters.
Also, Jim Morrison's band.
I still really want some sort of bucket list of ideas they want to include in the advanced rules!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/27 03:14:13
Subject: Mantic Dungeon Saga Kickstarter - $570k stretch goal: free Abyssal Moloch
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Unstoppable Bloodthirster of Khorne
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scarletsquig wrote:I saw some Mars Attacks minis in person last weekend, happy enough with the plastic.
We're about to hit 60 minis for £60 (plus all the other stuff) with this, call it 70 if you count terrain?
Another $500k of funding and another 30 minis should hopefully bump it up to a nice 100 minis for $100 thing.
Another $500k? In how many days? Ain't gonna happen. It's not compelling enough, nor is it a crazy enough deal. Also, board game plastics.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/27 03:21:58
Subject: Mantic Dungeon Saga Kickstarter - $570k stretch goal: free Abyssal Moloch
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Near Golden Daemon Caliber
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I'm not seeing 500k, but if we they get this expansion down and the core box plumped up a bit more... with time to spare to do another, could have a cascade of pledges. Maybe not 500k, but at least 2-300k more than we have now.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/27 03:22:08
Subject: Mantic Dungeon Saga Kickstarter - $570k stretch goal: free Abyssal Moloch
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Pyre Troll
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Azazelx wrote: scarletsquig wrote:I saw some Mars Attacks minis in person last weekend, happy enough with the plastic.
We're about to hit 60 minis for £60 (plus all the other stuff) with this, call it 70 if you count terrain?
Another $500k of funding and another 30 minis should hopefully bump it up to a nice 100 minis for $100 thing.
Another $500k? In how many days? Ain't gonna happen. It's not compelling enough, nor is it a crazy enough deal. Also, board game plastics.
yea, i kinda agree, i don't see it pulling that much unless some special kind of madness happens.
maybe a few stretch goals of like super bosses
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/27 07:16:37
Subject: Re:Mantic Dungeon Saga Kickstarter - $570k stretch goal: free Abyssal Moloch
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
On an Express Elevator to Hell!!
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What was the 3850 total pledgers release going to be again? Only a few away from this now.
Also, hopefully the 'Wednesday give-away' thing will add something worthwhile.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/27 09:11:04
Subject: Re:Mantic Dungeon Saga Kickstarter - $570k stretch goal: free Abyssal Moloch
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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Pacific wrote:What was the 3850 total pledgers release going to be again? Only a few away from this now.
Also, hopefully the 'Wednesday give-away' thing will add something worthwhile.
x4 Extra scenarios for the main game for using the green skins and abyssals.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/27 13:56:09
Subject: Re:Mantic Dungeon Saga Kickstarter - $570k stretch goal: free Abyssal Moloch
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Fixture of Dakka
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angelofvengeance wrote: Pacific wrote:What was the 3850 total pledgers release going to be again? Only a few away from this now.
Also, hopefully the 'Wednesday give-away' thing will add something worthwhile.
x4 Extra scenarios for the main game for using the green skins and abyssals.
So, basically an enticement to increase your pledge for the expansions.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/27 14:12:00
Subject: Mantic Dungeon Saga Kickstarter - $570k stretch goal: free Abyssal Moloch
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Novice Knight Errant Pilot
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Could see this hitting 700-750k depends on the addons today plus like has been said many times, some big beasties like a dragon, orc wyvern and Abyssal lord.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/27 14:24:52
Subject: Mantic Dungeon Saga Kickstarter - $570k stretch goal: free Abyssal Moloch
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Pious Warrior Priest
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There's always a pledging spike whenever a new expansion gets added, if they're able to release another two expansions that will get the average pledge up to around $200 (the usual average is $225 or so).
Still think they missed a trick by not doing hard plastic dungeon builder sprues in addition to the card, would be very cool to have some nicely painted 3d textured surfaces to game on rather than card tiles which will warp eventually.
At least Dwarven Forge backers will have something to be happy about since the game is completely compatible with those tiles.
Agree that something big like Reaper's $10 dragons would really help at this point. Mars Attacks had some really nice huge pieces like the bugs and DKQ needs more girbblies.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/27 14:40:31
Subject: Re:Mantic Dungeon Saga Kickstarter - $570k stretch goal: free Abyssal Moloch
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Dakka Veteran
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CptJake wrote: angelofvengeance wrote: Pacific wrote:What was the 3850 total pledgers release going to be again? Only a few away from this now.
Also, hopefully the 'Wednesday give-away' thing will add something worthwhile.
x4 Extra scenarios for the main game for using the green skins and abyssals.
So, basically an enticement to increase your pledge for the expansions.
Weelll...that, and to give you something to do with your bonus greenskins/devils in the main pledge besides using them in custom games! They did make mention of them allowing for 'mixed forces'.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/27 17:09:16
Subject: Mantic Dungeon Saga Kickstarter - $570k stretch goal: free Abyssal Moloch
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The short legs let the heroes have a chance to escape....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/27 18:33:07
Subject: Mantic Dungeon Saga Kickstarter - $570k stretch goal: free Abyssal Moloch
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Androgynous Daemon Prince of Slaanesh
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Posting from work, hopefully somebody can do a proper quote from email, but the Add-On Wednesday and the new things they've unveiled should make this what everyone was waiting for. Summary: Character creation (with skill unlocks) Random Dungeon Generator rules Necromancer rules 2 new RESIN heroes Spiders and rodents in resin (paid) Traps (Paid) acrylic tokens (paid) Obviously I mean the first three are what people were waiting on. The rest are additions that most will take or leave.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/27 18:43:55
Subject: Mantic Dungeon Saga Kickstarter - $570k stretch goal: free Abyssal Moloch
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Pious Warrior Priest
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Ravena and Gunn aren't included in the $100 pledge as far as I can tell. They are KS exclusives that need to be bought, much like the legendary heroes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/27 18:44:37
Subject: Mantic Dungeon Saga Kickstarter - $570k stretch goal: free Abyssal Moloch
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Near Golden Daemon Caliber
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Yeah, looks like a killer update that added a lot of things people were after.
The 'free' hardcover dungeon journal at $200 is gonna break my resolve. I'm gonna really want that, and I as already up to 150 for expansions. Guess they're gonna get 200 now though I'm not sure where it's going to come from
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/27 18:47:42
Subject: Mantic Dungeon Saga Kickstarter - $570k stretch goal: free Abyssal Moloch
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Novice Knight Errant Pilot
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GrimDork wrote:Yeah, looks like a killer update that added a lot of things people were after.
The 'free' hardcover dungeon journal at $200 is gonna break my resolve. I'm gonna really want that, and I as already up to 150 for expansions. Guess they're gonna get 200 now though I'm not sure where it's going to come from 
Yeah I worked out about $250 of stuff I want, so I'll just do what I do in each mantic ks, stick in as much as I can afford now and the rest in the pm. Just split it over two months
That hardback book certainly sounds tasty now tho.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/27 18:48:05
Subject: Mantic Dungeon Saga Kickstarter - $600k stretch goal: Adventurer's companion upgraded.
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Pious Warrior Priest
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I might drop down to $1 for now, the only reason I'm in this currently is for the exclusives, and it looks like I won't be able to get them all. It's a minimum of $41 extra to the $100 pledge to get all the KS exclusive minis currently, never mind the other exclusive stuff.
There are currently 12 KS exclusive minis which I think is a little bit nuts for any campaign, why fund all that and never release it? Going to have to pass on getting them all at some point, especially at $8 a pop.. Reaper Bones does exist after all. I do find the presence of exclusives to be a draw but after a certain point it has the opposite effect if the Ks just turns into one huge pile of models that are never going to see retail release.
No other Mantic KS has had this many exclusives.. or exclusive rulebooks... or this much resin.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/27 18:58:52
Subject: Re:Mantic Dungeon Saga Kickstarter - $600k stretch goal: Adventurer's companion upgraded.
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Novice Knight Errant Pilot
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Welcome to a frantic Mantic Wednesday.
This is a pretty big update, because we want to try and avoid bombarding you with emails.
So, since we’re so close to breaking our next stretch goal, this update is going to cover:
- The Adventurer's Companion
- The next stretch goal
- Add-on Wednesday
Sound good? Just to let you know, we will not post an update when the Molochs are achieved, just to make this more manageable!
First up, let’s tackle the Adventurer’s Companion in the Dungeon Master pledge level…
The Adventurer’s Companion
The Adventurer’s Companion contains advanced rules for Dungeon Saga allowing you to build you own adventures.
The Adventurer’s Companion includes a system for .
Your heroes will start in the entranceway to catacombs or a Dwarven Hold where, upon going through the first door, the system will generate the next room or corridor. As you explore further, the Dungeon itself will open out in front of you, leaving you to explore and revel in the mystery of the great unknown. It'll be different each time you play it!
There is also the , which you can use to design your own mission. We asked Jake Thornton, Games Designer behind Dungeon Saga, to share a few of his ideas on how this might work:
“The Necromancer player will create a dungeon according to a set of given parameters, and stock it with Monsters. The Monsters used add to a core set of scenario objectives that the Heroes will choose one from randomly. That way the Necromancer doesn’t know exactly what they are up to and so cannot make it completely impossible for the adventurers.”
These missions can also include personal objectives for each hero, and can work as one-off games or game in a linked campaign.
is a section devoted to the Monsters and Minions of Mantica, which you can use miniatures from the Kings of War line to represent if you want to.
This means that you can go beyond the basic boxed game contents of Undead and add-in new and interesting enemies. Perhaps your party stumbles across a moonlit enclosure infested with Lycanthropy-inflicted beasts, or they happen upon a dungeon-raiding group of goblins and their bizarre warmachines.
Even with all this great stuff in the book, we want to make this the best possible system for tabletop miniature role-playing that we can. With that, we present our next stretch goal.
When we beat this stretch goal, we will be able to:
- Write an in-depth background section describing the Mantica setting and the races that inhabit it.
- Add a comprehensive system for building your own heroes and villains.
- Add a character pad for keeping track of your newly-designed heroes on the tabletop.
- Boost your bonus cards and counters to include new equipment and spells.
BackgroundThe Background section will focus in on a number of different settings across Mantica, such as Dolgarth, the Halpi Mountains or maybe even Ophidia, and the dungeons that rest there. This will give your adventures a setting and allow you to delve deep into the history and backstory of Kings of War in the sort of depth we’ve never achieved before.
This detailed system will add a comprehensive list of races and classes, going beyond the heroes in the box game with new types such as the Witch or Engineer (see Ravenna and Gunn in the Add-on Wednesday section!)
You’ll be able to customize your hero’s stats, choose from a selection of abilities dependent on your character’s race and class, as well as special feats. There are also progression paths for each class, so as your hero gathers experience they “level up” and acquire new feats, skills and access to new equipment and spells.
You’ll also be able to build wicked villains as well - it's not only the good who go adventuring in the dungeons!
To help you keep track of your characters, we will include blank Character Mats for you to scribble down your new adventurers, as well as keep track of their equipment, injuries, skills, and buffs. New cards and counters will assist this as well.
With these detailed sections added in, the Adventurer’s Companion becomes a truly monumental tome of role-playing goodness. So here’s what we’re going to do…
To celebrate this enormous milestone stretch goal - $600,000 is an incredible amount – we have created a . This book is only available to Kickstarter Backers with a few available to round out the print quantity. This will be available as a $30 Optional Add-on – but it will be included free with all pledges of $200 or more!*
* includes any additional items you add on in the pledge manager. Does not include shipping. This book replaces the softback Adventurer’s Companion book in your pledge.
Shiny!
Add-on Wednesday
It is the final Add-on Wednesday of the campaign!
Week 4’s theme is all about the upgrades and add-ons you requested. Because this update is so big, we’re only going to highlight a few here. There are a few more on the front page which we will feature in a separate update, and a few still to add which we'll do as we freshen up the main page.
Ravenna – Female WitchThis great new miniature depicts the Witch, cast in Collector's Edition Resin exclusively for this Kickstarter. She can be used as a Witch, Druid or female mage character.
This new Dwarf figure is cast in Collector's Edition resin exclusively for this Kickstarter. He can be used to depict the Dwarfen Engineer class in the Adventurer's Companion.
Note: Resin kits are supplied unassembled and unpainted.
NEW! Dungeon Critters
Rats and spiders, classic dungeon critters for your heroes to (probably quite easily) overcome. Still, easy XP.
Note: Resin kits are supplied unassembled and unpainted.
Don’t stand there, it’s a trap! Get 3D sculpted counters to replace your card counters. Each tile has a different trap effect sculpted underneath the tile.
Note: Resin kits are supplied unassembled and unpainted.
Acrylic Counters upgrade all the different tokens in the core game to a harder-wearing material. The exact spec won't be finalised until the boxed game has been finished - we'll keep you updated. Also included are Large and Small acrylic range rulers, for working out line of sight and range for shooting and magic.
And finally…
This is a pretty huge update full of stuff!
We hope you like the final Add-on Wednesday, please check out the front page for the full range of what’s on offer. There might be a few surprise options available on the weekend as well
As for the stretch goal, let’s break down those barriers and get the word out – 4 days to go and plenty still to come!!
Chilling Wargamers at 7pm British Summer Time, and Forja y Dezvan at 9pm. Tune in to find out more! We'll post links in the comments and our Facebook page when it's on.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/27 19:00:59
Subject: Mantic Dungeon Saga Kickstarter - $600k stretch goal: Adventurer's companion upgraded.
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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Well it looks like we're slogging our way toward $600K now. Just broke the $570K mark now so the Molochs are unlocked too. Happy days
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/27 19:10:58
Subject: Mantic Dungeon Saga Kickstarter - $600k stretch goal: Adventurer's companion upgraded.
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Near Golden Daemon Caliber
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I'm not actually sure what I really need to add to spend the gap between DM+expansions and $200, I guess hope for extra expansions. I know I want the hardcover book though.
Resin traps and critters, no thanks. Will have to double check everything to make sure though, they added a lot of goodies to nom. Doors may be a paid add-on too, its been confirmed that they will exist but I don't think as to what their material or level of inclusion is.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/27 19:15:11
Subject: Mantic Dungeon Saga Kickstarter - $600k stretch goal: Adventurer's companion upgraded.
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scarletsquig wrote:
No other Mantic KS has had this many exclusives.. or exclusive rulebooks... or this much resin.
Some of Mantic's previous issues may be causing campaigns to not perform how they'd like, and as such, they're looking for other ways to drive up totals?
Who knows though?
But it does seem a bit odd, and counter-Mantic.
I'd rather they focus on quality concerns as a way to improve campaign performance.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/27 19:16:42
Subject: Mantic Dungeon Saga Kickstarter - $600k stretch goal: Adventurer's companion upgraded.
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Pyre Troll
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GrimDork wrote:I'm not actually sure what I really need to add to spend the gap between DM+expansions and $200, I guess hope for extra expansions. I know I want the hardcover book though.
Resin traps and critters, no thanks. Will have to double check everything to make sure though, they added a lot of goodies to nom. Doors may be a paid add-on too, its been confirmed that they will exist but I don't think as to what their material or level of inclusion is.
they stated in the comments section a bit ago the doors will be a stretch goal
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/27 19:18:09
Subject: Mantic Dungeon Saga Kickstarter - $600k stretch goal: Adventurer's companion upgraded.
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Fixture of Dakka
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GrimDork wrote:I'm not actually sure what I really need to add to spend the gap between DM+expansions and $200, I guess hope for extra expansions. I know I want the hardcover book though.
100 + Orc Expansion 25 + Abyssal Expansion 25 + Legendary Heroes 25 + Heroes of Mantica 25 = 200
Job done?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/27 19:24:10
Subject: Mantic Dungeon Saga Kickstarter - $600k stretch goal: Adventurer's companion upgraded.
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Near Golden Daemon Caliber
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Nah, I don't want any resin, I've got a 2 year old daughter and would like to keep this as something I can box up carry around and play without worrying about bits snapping off.
The first half though, yes. I mean, I get the draw of legendary heroes, but it would only apply to the base party. Probably just use dudes that look meaner out of my bones2 set.
Probably more like
100 + $25galahir + $25crypts + $25 expansion 3 +$25 expansion 4
Or maybe if no expansion 4 but they add-on some big nasties or something.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/27 19:28:21
Subject: Mantic Dungeon Saga Kickstarter - $600k stretch goal: Adventurer's companion upgraded.
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Zealous Knight
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The KOW model add-ons are decent value too. Mix of mostly restic and HIPS (with some metal), so reasonably childproof.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/27 19:32:18
Subject: Mantic Dungeon Saga Kickstarter - $600k stretch goal: Adventurer's companion upgraded.
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Near Golden Daemon Caliber
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I swear someone mentioned Ronnie saying something about a big monster during his live chat/interview thing. Might be one of those "we'll never make it there but if we do'' stretchgoals though. I have a lot of the undead already and don't need the orcs. Good value though, yes! I guarantee I'll find a place to spend the money and wish I had more invested to boot
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/27 19:44:43
Subject: Mantic Dungeon Saga Kickstarter - $600k stretch goal: Adventurer's companion upgraded.
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Sniping Gŭiláng
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I went:
100+$16(2xCritters)+$15(more furniture)+$8(traps)+$5(dice bag) +$10(resin counters) +$50 (2 texpansions) + $10 shipping = $214.
The actual game is secondary for me. I'm mostly in for stuff to run RPG:s: Tiles, Furnitures and Monsters.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/27 19:46:06
Subject: Mantic Dungeon Saga Kickstarter - $600k stretch goal: Adventurer's companion upgraded.
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Zealous Knight
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Is there any way to get the basilean hero (ibrahim?) in resin yet? I can't find it so far.
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