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I'm starting to find this getting a bit confusing, as to what is in Dungeon Master and what isn't.

So, as far as I can tell, Kapoka and Arianya are free in the Dungeon Master pledge, while Ravenna and Gunn aren't?

Additionally, the 'Dungeon Critters' and 'Traps' sets also don't have any direct equivalents in Dungeon Master? - Except possibly card counters for the traps?

Also, what is the 'Hall of the Heroes' tile set mentioned in the Black Fortress update #46?

I think they meant Halls of Dolgarth or whatever. It's the $25 add-on where you're buying most/all of the tiles from the core game again. Now that and the black fortress also include the $15 dollar scenery pack.

Ravenna and Gunn are currently only in resin and there's only a few resin things in the DM pledge, think a couple of heroes at the bottom maybe?

When in doubt, the big graphic on the main page tells you what's in the main pledge, and any add on which is for resin of any kind of token or counter comes on cardboard in the base pledge. Any kind of resin mini, compare it against the main image - if the name is in both, you get a PVC in the base pledge and a resin in the add on, if you don't see the name in both than it's only in resin - so you're right about Ravena and Gunn.

Basically just stick to the images, and if you really aren't sure don't pledge the extra money now, because the pledge manager will clear up any questions or ambiguities and you lose nothing by waiting - we don't even lose all that much as a group either, because Mantic still keeps unlocking stretch goals with extra pledge manager funds

...and read the fine print! Most of it is good. Like... I missed that the hardback was FREE with a $200 pledge!

Now when's that next update? We're already 10K towards it and don't know what it is! Okay, it's doors, but tell us. And stop underestimating your projects!

EDIT: Wait -- when did they add the Army Painter set? That's a good price, too!!!

Nice to see the undead Hydra unlocked (and other stuff), really hope Mantic consider giving it KoW rules at some point, I'd love a big center piece model for the undead army I'm building.

And something even bigger is coming....

I guess I should add my guaranteed extra $100 to make it a total $200 and help speed things up. I'm getting at least $200 in stuff, but I'm looking higher so far. I think some things will hit in the survey at the latest possible moment.

If they do go ahead with a third expansion, I'm more than likely going to be getting that upgrade to a hardcover as well.

I do hope they consider letting us add on softcovers in the pledge manager. I like to have one to browse at my own perusal, and one that can get all ratty from being tossed in the game box and passed around the table all night long.

New add-on, highly considering this one, about $55 worth of abyssal dwarfs for 30 bucks. Sure you gotta wait a year but whatever I'm patient.

800k stretch (35k to fund) Plastic doors!

Also available as a $5 add-on, and also come with the two tile packs Halls of Dolgarth and the Black something or another.

Something about a Tyrant of Halpi, but needing "legendary heroes" first. Wonder if that's the boardgame plastic legendary heroes. I'll add for those too. Other thing sounds like it may be big.

Starting to think no 3rd expansion unless we go to ludicrous speed tomorrow.

Nice, hard plastic doors at last. If they can achieve the same detailed design as the photos than they'll surely sell by the bucket load, considering how the Deadzone scenery went I have a good deal of faith in Mantic on this one.

Chaos Dwarfs - Still with the 'premium plastic'?



Still not tempted, and surprised at how well the one is doing!

I'm just hoping there will be enough plastic doors for the available options in the kits.

Well shoot. Guess they'll be getting me for at least one extra tile set. Not bad for $25- doors, tiles, and scenery? Not too bad of deal at all.

I didn't get in on the original KoW campaign, and I would still really like me some golems.

It's either the Greenskin pack with the mincer and war trombone, or the Golems and gargoyles. What say you Dakka?

I will most certainly be adding those legendary heroes- I doubt they'll offer them for free. I could be wrong though.

I like those Golems. I may have to recalc my pledge and add.

Yeah thats a pretty good point Compel, theres not real mention of how many doors you need or get, we can just assume the picture is right (?), luckily the sets are cheap at least.

(providing we don't need 10 of them )

Not to spam post, but were officially in the last 24 hours, very exciting, hope we unlock one last big beast.

The Tyrant of Halpi could certainly be such a beast! Or a regular man-sized dude, dunno at this point

I think the update says something about amount of doors not finalized at the moment.

I assume they'll include enough doors to do any of the basic missions. I'm hoping they do open and closed doors like heroquest had.

I'm also holding out hope that they upgrade the scenery and doors to be hard plastic. They'll already have 5000+ sets spoken for, and they're about as simple to make in hard plastic as anything (might even end up closer to 10,000 sets when it's all said and done).

I also hope that after this they just do a $100k stretch for a third expansion, all completed with bonus minis in the main set.

So this worth kickstarting as a board game for board game nights or should I wait for retail? Not to interested in the resin since I have a lot of reaper bones still to paint as well as Zombicide and Sedition Wars.

Probably? The base pledge is getting pretty packed with extras now, all of which should have at least a couple of scenarios, and the advanced rules will allow you to take it further--if you want.

The expansions also look like a decent value for the money, 19 models each with the tiles cards etc plus scenarios.


I'm sure the retail box will be spiffy too though, and will come at a reasonable discount from r/etailers.

So decide if you want more stuff for the money, or to be able to wait and see production minis and know *exactly* what you're getting into once it hits retail. I know tying up the money for a whole year has some people edgy about it.

Absolutely. While I'm not seeing as many mini's as Reaper, Zombicide, or Myth, I'm seeing a lot of gaming content (scenarios, campaigns, AI, coop, level advancement) here. I wish this was around instead of picking up D&D 4th edition! If you don't already have a dungeoncrawler boardgame (I'm fine with Descent 2nd edition with the coop campaign), this is pretty much it. The basegame and three expansions will be $175, then buy $25 of other stuff (is there any game content I'm missing?) and get a free hardcover of the rules and dungeon journal. OTOH, If the game's not going to hit the table very much, retail should do. MSRP *still* has not been set yet. I'm specuguessing $75 MSRP, and $50 OLGS, based on Mars Attacks. Anyone know better?

They haven't released any of the RRP info yet.

Big obstacle to a 3rd expansion is designer time. Jake must be tapped out by now. They would need to bring in more people to avoid a half baked product.

Wonder if one of those golums would be a good blood bowl CD big guy?

The dwarfs look like a half hearted attempt at a third expansion - them, the rules, the new tiles - tis almost an expansion I guess.

We're shaping up for a good final day! I'm in for $260ish. EB +3exp +acrylics +dice +bag +couple resins. The absolute minimum, it might go up a little during pledge manager -_-

Well, I went for 225$ for my final pledge. Gets me both expansions, the first set of epic characters, and the two tile extensions.

Pretty happy with that!

The_Real_Chris wrote:

Wonder if one of those golums would be a good blood bowl CD big guy?

Too big I reckon, they actually come on a 50mm base

Can I pledge $1 and then change my pledge to Dungeon Master in the pledge manager?

The sculptor (Sylvain Quirion) of a lot of the mini's has posted photos of loads of the greens he did for the project over on frothers

http://frothersunite.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=49378

I've copies over a few, but have a look over there for more

We're past the $810k mark.

Can we have a Mod update the OP please? Seems Scarletsquig is busy lol.

Mymearan wrote:
Can I pledge $1 and then change my pledge to Dungeon Master in the pledge manager?

Yes you can

NTRabbit wrote:

Mymearan wrote:
Can I pledge $1 and then change my pledge to Dungeon Master in the pledge manager?

Yes you can

While you can, it's a bit of a jerk move, if you're planning to spend the money, pledge it, and help get to the next stretch goal.

On a personal note, I'm quite excided by this game, I'd not been interested, then a friend sent me a link and I got hooked.
I've gone Dungeon Master with $100 extra so I get the hardback, some expansions, and dice/rulers etc.
I missed out on Deadzone due to finances, and I'm not missing out on this.