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 pretre wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:
French isn't only spoken in France you know!

Despite the best efforts of the rest of the world.

French canadian here. That codex cover looks awesome, but I will wait for a more reliable source before making it official in the main post

 the_Armyman wrote:
If they remove all of the Inquisition units and Assassins as rumored, how can they make a 104 page, hardback codex for $49.50? Either the rumors are wrong, they added SM units, or that's an expensive update to 7th.

Ik book has 64 pages and 2 unit entries. I am sure they can make 104 pages happen.

:/

Well annoyed but not surprised about the assassins

90% sure its going to be copy pasta but 10% of me hopes it will have something new and exciting to add.

slah wrote:
I´m sitting with the new WD and can confirm the cover on the regular codex

The boxes:

Spoiler:

The assassin dataslate:

 Desubot wrote:
:/

Well annoyed but not surprised about the assassins

90% sure its going to be copy pasta but 10% of me hopes it will have something new and exciting to add.

Probably, there was nothing glaring about their rules between the editions

 RedFox wrote:

slah wrote:
I´m sitting with the new WD and can confirm the cover on the regular codex

The boxes:

Spoiler:

The assassin dataslate:

 Deadshot wrote:

 RedFox wrote:

slah wrote:
I´m sitting with the new WD and can confirm the cover on the regular codex

The boxes:

Spoiler:

The assassin dataslate:

Ah, so it looks like the "Grey Knights Stormraven/Land Raider/Dreadnought" is like a "Dark Angel Bike Squad." Named for the army it is part of, not because its a new model.

A 10 man box of Grey Knights looks good, and is probably the same kit as the 5man, just doubled up. The Purifers are probably identical to the old box, same with Paladins. Models look exactly the same. Whoever said that to me a few pages back called it right.

but what about normal GK terminators !? same sprues than the Paladins? why not name it on the box for a dual kit...

Yea its a heavy bolter, thought the crusaders came with hurricane bolters

the venerable dread is either a repackage of the generic or a GK one with something extra,


but I see what looks like storm sheilds on the paladins

 WrentheFaceless wrote:

 Desubot wrote:
:/

Well annoyed but not surprised about the assassins

90% sure its going to be copy pasta but 10% of me hopes it will have something new and exciting to add.

Probably, there was nothing glaring about their rules between the editions

True but here was to hoping for a little variation between them (wargear wise)

So who wants to take bets on the price.

I say 14 US

Edit: Landraider looks like a standard lascannon one. SS paladins would be insane :/

 jetstumpy wrote:

 Deadshot wrote:

 RedFox wrote:

slah wrote:
I´m sitting with the new WD and can confirm the cover on the regular codex

The boxes:

Spoiler:

The assassin dataslate:

I know the picture is blurry, but does something look different about the Heavy Bolter turret on the Land Raider?

I dont see storm shields, one has a brotherhood banner, the one in front has the arm thats holding a daemon head

 WrentheFaceless wrote:
I dont see storm shields, one has a brotherhood banner, the one in front has the arm thats holding a daemon head

No GK but Draigo himself can take stormshields.

 WrentheFaceless wrote:
I dont see storm shields, one has a brotherhood banner, the one in front has the arm thats holding a daemon head

just on the pali to the far left front... maybe you are right hard to see.

wow... missed opportunity there if they dont release new models... although I did want more SS's so there is that discount at least

 Ferrum_Sanguinis wrote:

 WrentheFaceless wrote:
I dont see storm shields, one has a brotherhood banner, the one in front has the arm thats holding a daemon head

No GK but Draigo himself can take stormshields.

Unfortunately

After this release, I think Tyranids will be kissing the floor that their codex didn't get butchered like the GK did.

 WrentheFaceless wrote:

 Ferrum_Sanguinis wrote:

 WrentheFaceless wrote:
I dont see storm shields, one has a brotherhood banner, the one in front has the arm thats holding a daemon head

No GK but Draigo himself can take stormshields.

Unfortunately

Otherwise you'd have entire units of termies with 2++ in close combat thanks to their Nemesis Swords.

Great, looks like the previous rumors were true (as expected). My last army is gutted and now requires three sources to make one book. Because nickel and diming is good.

Oh, or are we supposed to have a positive spin on this. If its a literal unit delete/points tweak copy and paste job can we finally get some unanimous " this is getting bad" for once?

chnmmr wrote:
After this release, I think Tyranids will be kissing the floor that their codex didn't get butchered like the GK did.

So you've seen the inside of the codex? Whats in there?

 TheKbob wrote:
Great, looks like the previous rumors were true (as expected). My last army is gutted and now requires three sources to make one book. Because nickel and diming is good.

Oh, or are we supposed to have a positive spin on this. If its a literal unit delete/points tweak copy and paste job can we finally get some unanimous " this is getting bad" for once?

Will you finally actually quit then?

Because it's hidden in the glare, I was curious as to what the excessive new price gouging on the Strike Squad box is for those of us paying Canadian prices?!

At least they haven't renamed the oficio assassinorum to the astra murderatum shootybangius or some gak, thank heavens for small mercies

Experiment 626 wrote:
Because it's hidden in the glare, I was curious as to what the excessive new price gouging on the Strike Squad box is for those of us paying Canadian prices?!

The 10 man box is supposedly cheaper than the cost of two 5 man boxes now

 RedFox wrote:

Ah, so it looks like the "Grey Knights Stormraven/Land Raider/Dreadnought" is like a "Dark Angel Bike Squad." Named for the army it is part of, not because its a new model.

A 10 man box of Grey Knights looks good, and is probably the same kit as the 5man, just doubled up. The Purifers are probably identical to the old box, same with Paladins. Models look exactly the same. Whoever said that to me a few pages back called it right.

but what about normal GK terminators !? same sprues than the Paladins? why not name it on the box for a dual kit...

The way I had it explained to me is that they are doing 2 boxes per dual kit. Take this one. One box is called Paladins and has Paladins on the cover, the other is Terminators, has Terminators. That way they can pass it off as something totally different. Possibly for their webstore's filter system?

More likely, its so they can trick little Timmy into getting 2. Timmy gets a box and the Codex. Builds them as Paladins. Is told he needs Terminators instead and must buy 2 more boxes. Timmy buys 2 more and doesn't realise he could have swapped the heads (or even just had the same head, not vitally important) on his existing squad and just bought 1 box. Or he does and because he's twelve "Cool extra!"

And those models are completely identical to the old box art just with a different background. The Dreadknight one is a copy and paste of the old design, the Purifiers and Paladins are identical to their images on the back of the old boxes. Even the placement is identical. The strike squad looks like the old cover art, with more GK photoshoped in behind. The Vendread is identical to the showcase in the 5th Ed book, and the Land Raider and Raven I have definately seen before. All looks stock with a paintjob, no new kits


And goddammit! Dataslate better be easy to transfer between Android phone and Windows 8 laptop. And not expensive for 4 models. Muthafethers.

 WrentheFaceless wrote:

chnmmr wrote:
After this release, I think Tyranids will be kissing the floor that their codex didn't get butchered like the GK did.

So you've seen the inside of the codex? Whats in there?

 TheKbob wrote:
Great, looks like the previous rumors were true (as expected). My last army is gutted and now requires three sources to make one book. Because nickel and diming is good.

Oh, or are we supposed to have a positive spin on this. If its a literal unit delete/points tweak copy and paste job can we finally get some unanimous " this is getting bad" for once?

Will you finally actually quit then?

You're cute. Please, give us the positive spin. Let me know what I'm doing wrong to enjoy having my armies invalidating and costing $100 in rules alone to keep relevant? Please, tell me.

 WrentheFaceless wrote:

Experiment 626 wrote:
Because it's hidden in the glare, I was curious as to what the excessive new price gouging on the Strike Squad box is for those of us paying Canadian prices?!

The 10 man box is supposedly cheaper than the cost of two 5 man boxes now

Surprisingly it is so! I've just had a look and the image says its £37:50 Sterling, as opposed to £20:50 for the 5 man box that came out before.
Don't know about other countries though.

I understand that some Grey Knight players are upset about this, and I can really sympathize with you guys, but I'm coming back to this thread to see rumors about this army, not complaints. Assassins and Inquisition AREN'T Grey Knights, and I'm glad they're out of the codex. Can we please start a complaint thread instead of complaining in here?

Man, GW is becoming comic book-bad buy predictable with the unit removal-and-transfer to dataslate stuff.

So, if I'm low-balling the Officio Assassinorium at $10, then it costs literally twice as much to continue a Grey Knights army from the last book. Although from what I've seen so far there aren't a lot of changes in the overall rules, so then a doubling of the...subscription cost for Codex: Grey Knights with not much of a reason to make the update.

 Deadshot wrote:

More likely, its so they can trick little Timmy into getting 2. Timmy gets a box and the Codex. Builds them as Paladins. Is told he needs Terminators instead and must buy 2 more boxes. Timmy buys 2 more and doesn't realise he could have swapped the heads (or even just had the same head, not vitally important) on his existing squad and just bought 1 box. Or he does and because he's twelve "Cool extra!"

Yeah if you could stop abusing poor little Timmy by using him as a go-to straw man, that'd be just fantastic. You could lay that same "kids are going to get confused by this and that's exactly what those bastards want" claim to pretty much *any* product without an age restriction (and many with!).

Seriously, this is a rebox release with no new models and an eviscerated codex; you don't need to reach as hard as you are for a criticism, here. Plenty to be had. It sounds like a codex to avoid, and proper GK players should rightly be pretty disappointed with this treatment.

 Accolade wrote:
Man, GW is becoming comic book-bad buy predictable with the unit removal-and-transfer to dataslate stuff.

So, if I'm low-balling the Officio Assassinorium at $10, then it costs literally twice as much to continue a Grey Knights army from the last book. Although from what I've seen so far there aren't a lot of changes in the overall rules, so then a doubling of the...subscription cost for Codex: Grey Knights with not much of a reason to make the update.

To be fair, if they retcon out the atrocities of ward for the last book and add something interesting and not pants on head slowed then maybe i could see it being worth it. but i highly doubt it :(