Ahtman wrote:

 Jihadin wrote:
MRAP?
MATV?
Four wheel light armored vehicle? (MRAT)

Crunch Wrap?
Club Wrap?
It's a wrap?
Gangster Rap?

 Easy E wrote:
From the OP:



Okay, it just looks like a fancy Humvee. Either way, why? If you need something beyond squad cars/SUV/Mobile Command center then mobilize the National Guard.

 Jihadin wrote:
Its not an uparmor I know that

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

 Jihadin wrote:
Its not an uparmor I know that

It looks a bit like an MATV or one of the other "small MRAP" type of vehicle. Actually come to think of it... I've seen something that looks almost exactly the same (only I saw this from the rear at a range), and it was a Marine transport of some armored variety

 Jihadin wrote:
If the NG are mobilized what laws do they fall under?

 Kilkrazy wrote:

 Hordini wrote:
Has there been any research done on how often police are actually able to tell the race of the person driving the vehicle before they pull them over?

Yes.

It is not pure random chance that black drivers get stopped a lot more often than white drivers, and it isn't because white people are genetically or culturally superior at driving.

 Jihadin wrote:

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

 Jihadin wrote:
Its not an uparmor I know that

It looks a bit like an MATV or one of the other "small MRAP" type of vehicle. Actually come to think of it... I've seen something that looks almost exactly the same (only I saw this from the rear at a range), and it was a Marine transport of some armored variety

Not armored though. Going by its not that low to ground

 The Hedge Knight wrote:
People are complaining about police overreach with the APC (which makes complete sense seeing as cars have already been destroyed) and in response they want the national guard to be mobilized in order to bring order to these protests.

I'm really glad DakkaDakka doesn't run the world O.o

 The Hedge Knight wrote:
People are complaining about police overreach with the APC (which makes complete sense seeing as cars have already been destroyed) and in response they want the national guard to be mobilized in order to bring order to these protests.

 Ouze wrote:

 The Hedge Knight wrote:
People are complaining about police overreach with the APC (which makes complete sense seeing as cars have already been destroyed) and in response they want the national guard to be mobilized in order to bring order to these protests.

There is absolutely a role for the National Guard in the event of uncontrollable riots. The events we have seen here have not, and hopefully will not, rise to that level.

However, I see no hypocrisy between those stances. The National Guard serve to restore order - not enforce the law, restore order - when it's beyond the control of law enforcement to do so, and only in the most extreme of circumstances, whereby police officers with their stupid tacticool outfits, surplus army tanks, and occupying invader mentality are a giant, different and I'd say bigger - certainly more omnipresent - problem.

 d-usa wrote:
Reports of police arresting reporters today?

The #STL SWAT team has weapons drawn in #Ferguson at a protest in broad daylight with media attending pic.twitter.com/z6zIVuCM6D

— FOX2now (@FOX2now) August 13, 2014

 whembly wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
Reports of police arresting reporters today?

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?

Google-fu'ed:
http://www.thenewscommenter.com/news/video-marching-protesters-meet-police-road-block-aug-12-1040pm-ferguson/163168



This is going to be a media gak storm.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
We got snipers.

The #STL SWAT team has weapons drawn in #Ferguson at a protest in broad daylight with media attending pic.twitter.com/z6zIVuCM6D

— FOX2now (@FOX2now) August 13, 2014

Automatically Appended Next Post:
/unserious time
Dude picks up active tear gas can to throw it back to the police WHILE holding a bag of chips:

Dude!

/unserious time off

Something made the riot police believe that it wasn't a peaceful protest tonight... so, they're gassing the whole area. Pictures should be coming soon...

 whembly wrote:
Man... I really, REALLY hope the investigate wraps up soon.

o.O

Protestors tried to light up a moltov cocktail:

 whembly wrote:

/unserious time
Dude picks up active tear gas can to throw it back to the police WHILE holding a bag of chips:

Dude!

/unserious time off

 SlaveToDorkness wrote:
That happened when all the cigars and liquor disappeared from the Quick Mart.

 whembly wrote:
Sheesh...

Shots fired and folks running:

 Jihadin wrote:

.....they were not getting shot at...

 whembly wrote:

 Jihadin wrote:

.....they were not getting shot at...

Huh?

Tear Gas canister landed in front of them. They were not getting shot at

EDIT:
http://www.cnn.com/video/standard.html?/video/bestoftv/2014/08/14/cnn-tonight-piaget-crenshaw-eyewitnesses.cnn&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rss%2Fcnn_topstories+%28RSS%3A+Top+Stories%29&video_referrer=
If this is corroborated... the officer may be looking at a murder charge.

 whembly wrote:

Dude picks up active tear gas can to throw it back to the police WHILE holding a bag of chips:
.

In Ferguson, Washington Post reporter Wesley Lowery gives account of his arrest

FERGUSON, Mo. — For the past week in Ferguson, reporters have been using the McDonald’s a few blocks from the scene of Michael Brown’s shooting as a staging area. Demonstrations have blown up each night nearby. But inside there’s WiFi and outlets, so it’s common for reporters to gather there.

That was the case Wednesday. My phone was just about to die, so as I charged it, I used the time to respond to people on Twitter and do a little bit of a Q&A since I wasn’t out there covering the protests.

As I sat there, many armed officers came in — some who were dressed as normal officers, others who were dressed with more gear.

Initially, both Ryan Reilly of the Huffington Post and I were asked for identification. I was wearing my lanyard, but Ryan asked why he had to show his ID. They didn’t press the point, but one added that if we called 911, no one would answer.

Then they walked away. Moments later, the police reemerged, telling us that we had to leave. I pulled my phone out and began recording video.

An officer with a large weapon came up to me and said, “Stop recording.”

I said, “Officer, do I not have the right to record you?”

He backed off but told me to hurry up. So I gathered my notebook and pens with one hand while recording him with the other hand.

As I exited, I saw Ryan to my left, having a similar argument with two officers. I recorded him, too, and that angered the officer. As I made my way toward the door, the officers gave me conflicting information.

One instructed me to exit to my left. As I turned left, another officer emerged, blocking my path.

“Go another way,” he said.

As I turned, my backpack, which was slung over one shoulder, began to slip. I said, “Officers, let me just gather my bag.” As I did, one of them said, “Okay, let’s take him.”

Multiple officers grabbed me. I tried to turn my back to them to assist them in arresting me. I dropped the things from my hands.

“My hands are behind my back,” I said. “I’m not resisting. I’m not resisting.” At which point one officer said: “You’re resisting. Stop resisting.”

That was when I was most afraid — more afraid than of the tear gas and rubber bullets.

As they took me into custody, the officers slammed me into a soda machine, at one point setting off the Coke dispenser. They put plastic cuffs on me, then they led me out the door.

I could see Ryan still talking to an officer. I said: “Ryan, tweet that they’re arresting me, tweet that they’re arresting me.”

He didn’t have an opportunity, because he was arrested as well.

The officers led us outside to a police van. Inside, there was a large man sitting on the floor between the two benches. He began screaming: “I can’t breathe! Call a paramedic! Call a paramedic!”

Ryan and I asked the officers if they intended to help the man. They said he was fine. The screaming went on for the 10 to 15 minutes we stood outside the van.

“I’m going to die!” he screamed. “I’m going to die! I can’t breathe! I’m going to die!”

Eventually a police car arrived. A woman — with a collar identifying her as a member of the clergy — sat in the back. Ryan and I crammed in next to her, and we took the three-minute ride to the Ferguson Police Department. The woman sang hymns throughout the ride.

During this time, we asked the officers for badge numbers. We asked to speak to a supervising officer. We asked why we were being detained. We were told: trespassing in a McDonald’s.

“I hope you’re happy with yourself,” one officer told me. And I responded: “This story’s going to get out there. It’s going to be on the front page of The Washington Post tomorrow.”

And he said, “Yeah, well, you’re going to be in my jail cell tonight.”

Once at the station, we were processed, our pockets emptied. No mug shots. They removed our restraints and put us in a holding cell. Ryan was able to get ahold of his dad. I called my mom, but I couldn’t get through. I couldn’t remember any phone numbers.

We were in there for what felt like 10 or 15 minutes. Then the processing officer came in.

“Who’s media?” he asked.

We said we were. And the officer said we were both free to go. We asked to speak to a commanding officer. We asked to see an arrest report. No report, the officer told us, and no, they wouldn’t provide any names.

I asked if there would ever be a report. He came back with a case number and said a report would be available in a week or two.

“The chief thought he was doing you two a favor,” he said.

The Ferguson Police Department did not immediately respond to a request for comment on Lowery’s detention.

The following is a statement on the incident from Washington Post Executive Editor Martin D. Baron:

Wesley has briefed us on what occurred, and there was absolutely no justification for his
arrest.

He was illegally instructed to stop taking video of officers. Then he followed officers’ instructions to leave a McDonald’s — and after contradictory instructions on how to exit, he was slammed against a soda machine and then handcuffed. That behavior was wholly unwarranted and an assault on the freedom of the press to cover the news. The physical risk to Wesley himself is obvious and outrageous.

After being placed in a holding cell, he was released with no charges and no explanation. He was denied information about the names and badge numbers of those who arrested him.

We are relieved that Wesley is going to be OK. We are appalled by the conduct of police officers involved.

#Ferguson crowd threw rocks, bottles, Molotov cocktails, saw a gun, right before this stepped off pic.twitter.com/qNngeVLtVL

— David Carson (@PDPJ) August 14, 2014

Officers just drew rifles at 3 cars attempting to come near QuickTrip. Screamed "Stop your vehicle" w/ pointed guns pic.twitter.com/GsAHYEy52Q

— Yamiche Alcindor (@Yamiche) August 14, 2014

Huge cloud of gas over Ferguson. #MikeBrown #Ferguson pic.twitter.com/brp31qO9y0

— Robert Cohen (@kodacohen) August 14, 2014

Police copter circling over, every entrance to street blocked with multiple vehicles., tear gas flowing into neighboring street.

— Jamelle Bouie (@jbouie) August 14, 2014

 Ouze wrote:

 whembly wrote:

Dude picks up active tear gas can to throw it back to the police WHILE holding a bag of chips:
.

This is a great, great piece of photojournalism.

Spoiler:

There's an interesting story here.

In Ferguson, Washington Post reporter Wesley Lowery gives account of his arrest

FERGUSON, Mo. — For the past week in Ferguson, reporters have been using the McDonald’s a few blocks from the scene of Michael Brown’s shooting as a staging area. Demonstrations have blown up each night nearby. But inside there’s WiFi and outlets, so it’s common for reporters to gather there.

That was the case Wednesday. My phone was just about to die, so as I charged it, I used the time to respond to people on Twitter and do a little bit of a Q&A since I wasn’t out there covering the protests.

As I sat there, many armed officers came in — some who were dressed as normal officers, others who were dressed with more gear.

Initially, both Ryan Reilly of the Huffington Post and I were asked for identification. I was wearing my lanyard, but Ryan asked why he had to show his ID. They didn’t press the point, but one added that if we called 911, no one would answer.

Then they walked away. Moments later, the police reemerged, telling us that we had to leave. I pulled my phone out and began recording video.

An officer with a large weapon came up to me and said, “Stop recording.”

I said, “Officer, do I not have the right to record you?”

He backed off but told me to hurry up. So I gathered my notebook and pens with one hand while recording him with the other hand.

As I exited, I saw Ryan to my left, having a similar argument with two officers. I recorded him, too, and that angered the officer. As I made my way toward the door, the officers gave me conflicting information.

One instructed me to exit to my left. As I turned left, another officer emerged, blocking my path.

“Go another way,” he said.

As I turned, my backpack, which was slung over one shoulder, began to slip. I said, “Officers, let me just gather my bag.” As I did, one of them said, “Okay, let’s take him.”

Multiple officers grabbed me. I tried to turn my back to them to assist them in arresting me. I dropped the things from my hands.

“My hands are behind my back,” I said. “I’m not resisting. I’m not resisting.” At which point one officer said: “You’re resisting. Stop resisting.”

That was when I was most afraid — more afraid than of the tear gas and rubber bullets.

As they took me into custody, the officers slammed me into a soda machine, at one point setting off the Coke dispenser. They put plastic cuffs on me, then they led me out the door.

I could see Ryan still talking to an officer. I said: “Ryan, tweet that they’re arresting me, tweet that they’re arresting me.”

He didn’t have an opportunity, because he was arrested as well.

The officers led us outside to a police van. Inside, there was a large man sitting on the floor between the two benches. He began screaming: “I can’t breathe! Call a paramedic! Call a paramedic!”

Ryan and I asked the officers if they intended to help the man. They said he was fine. The screaming went on for the 10 to 15 minutes we stood outside the van.

“I’m going to die!” he screamed. “I’m going to die! I can’t breathe! I’m going to die!”

Eventually a police car arrived. A woman — with a collar identifying her as a member of the clergy — sat in the back. Ryan and I crammed in next to her, and we took the three-minute ride to the Ferguson Police Department. The woman sang hymns throughout the ride.

During this time, we asked the officers for badge numbers. We asked to speak to a supervising officer. We asked why we were being detained. We were told: trespassing in a McDonald’s.

“I hope you’re happy with yourself,” one officer told me. And I responded: “This story’s going to get out there. It’s going to be on the front page of The Washington Post tomorrow.”

And he said, “Yeah, well, you’re going to be in my jail cell tonight.”

Once at the station, we were processed, our pockets emptied. No mug shots. They removed our restraints and put us in a holding cell. Ryan was able to get ahold of his dad. I called my mom, but I couldn’t get through. I couldn’t remember any phone numbers.

We were in there for what felt like 10 or 15 minutes. Then the processing officer came in.

“Who’s media?” he asked.

We said we were. And the officer said we were both free to go. We asked to speak to a commanding officer. We asked to see an arrest report. No report, the officer told us, and no, they wouldn’t provide any names.

I asked if there would ever be a report. He came back with a case number and said a report would be available in a week or two.

“The chief thought he was doing you two a favor,” he said.

The Ferguson Police Department did not immediately respond to a request for comment on Lowery’s detention.

The following is a statement on the incident from Washington Post Executive Editor Martin D. Baron:

Wesley has briefed us on what occurred, and there was absolutely no justification for his
arrest.

He was illegally instructed to stop taking video of officers. Then he followed officers’ instructions to leave a McDonald’s — and after contradictory instructions on how to exit, he was slammed against a soda machine and then handcuffed. That behavior was wholly unwarranted and an assault on the freedom of the press to cover the news. The physical risk to Wesley himself is obvious and outrageous.

After being placed in a holding cell, he was released with no charges and no explanation. He was denied information about the names and badge numbers of those who arrested him.

We are relieved that Wesley is going to be OK. We are appalled by the conduct of police officers involved.

This was the preferred MO for various political conventions of fairly recent - roust undesirables, hold them, then release them without charge.

Here’s the story with video. First, from what I observed in the video, the dude wasn’t leaving. Whether he could record or whether he could stay are two separate issues he seems to be conflating for a story. He says he was packing up, maybe he was, but I’m not sure I believe his amazing skill at keeping that hand cam mostly steady and straight while doing so. Not only that, but this from KSDK’s Leisa Zigmann:

Why weren’t other media arrested? You don’t have to agree with police orders to move, but they can and they will detain you, unfairly or not, and not charge you. Legally, you have every right to record the police so long as you’re not interfering with them. Maybe what police thought these two reporters were doing was interference, I don’t know, but that other media members weren’t arrested stands out. Were they roughed up? Or escorted out? Were there witnesses? The camera doesn’t record any of the “assault” they say happened. Not saying that it didn’t, but just that it isn’t in the footage. Was it a case of officers behaving badly? My friend Mary Katharine Hamm made this point:

It does seem weird that these guys were sent to cover the story about 18 year-old Mike Brown and ended up putting themselves on the front page of their site.
As I’ve said for years: citizen journalists are the new minute men. Ferguson residents should have their cameras out and ready right now. What they record may be the only account if something occurs. And don’t forget: they cannot tell you to stop recording. More on videotaping police Previous Ferguson coverage.

 Jihadin wrote:

 whembly wrote:

 Jihadin wrote:

.....they were not getting shot at...

Huh?

Tear Gas canister landed in front of them. They were not getting shot at

EDIT:
http://www.cnn.com/video/standard.html?/video/bestoftv/2014/08/14/cnn-tonight-piaget-crenshaw-eyewitnesses.cnn&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rss%2Fcnn_topstories+%28RSS%3A+Top+Stories%29&video_referrer=
If this is corroborated... the officer may be looking at a murder charge.

No video of shooting. Keep that in mind.
At the 5:15 mark. Listen to what's being said