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 hotsauceman1 wrote:
That is my reason as to why. White people quite often dont see rae as big as a deal as the the races do


Ravens comments have literally nothing to do with her race. It has to do with her cultural heritage. She doesn't want to be called AFRICAN-American because she doesn't align with any of her potential African heritage at all. You know who the AFRICAN-americans are? The ones that are actually immigrating from Africa.

 
   
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And that is how YOU see it, but i know alot of people that think differently. Again, it is difficult for someone who hasnt experianced it to understand

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 hotsauceman1 wrote:
And that is how YOU see it, but i know alot of people that think differently. Again, it is difficult for someone who hasnt experianced it to understand


Who hasn't experienced what?
   
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Cincinnati, Ohio

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
And that is how YOU see it, but i know alot of people that think differently. Again, it is difficult for someone who hasnt experianced it to understand


No. That's what she said.

Whatever class you're taking right now that's prompting your comments, you should drop. It's not actually teaching you anything.

 
   
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It isnt a class. It is how I feel. Im taking mostly history and logic.
And good on you for showing your hate on universities again, thinking that everything you think is stupid I say comes from a class.
And that is what she said, but that isnt what a majority of black people feel. The have a Racial Identity that forms a bond from shared experiances. Why do you think there are orginizations like black pride clubs at schools? Its because they do feel the need to reach out for others with shared racial experiance

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I'm glad to hear that you speak for most Black Americans. I'll have to ask you more about hip hop culture when I get the chance.

Additionally, your "hate on universities" claim is not only tired and laughable, but shows that you lack a fundamental understanding, despite multiple conversations about it, on my opinions of the American education system.

And finally, you're still, almost entirely, missing Symone's point.

 
   
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I am not missing her point, she doesnt want to be labeled. Fine good on her. She doesnt want to be called a Lesbian for some reason or African American.
And I say this because I have read up on it, i have studied it and I have talked to people of numerous races on this subject. And they don't like it when someone denies their heritage because to them, it is a fundamental part of who they are and their shared experiences.
And I do understand, you do not like universities thinking they are expensive and produce useless results

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Who the feth cares what "they" think? News flash: it's no one elses business what your sexuality is or what you claim as your cultural heritage.

And again, you're wrong. You have absolutely zero understanding of my opinion on university educations. In short: university's are filled with too many C students that would be better served learning a trade or taking an apprenticeship.

 
   
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I would argue that what if those C-students dont want a trade.
But, I did some stupid stuff last night, and not I have a bad hangover. Im going back to bed.

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 hotsauceman1 wrote:
I am not missing her point, she doesnt want to be labeled. Fine good on her. She doesnt want to be called a Lesbian for some reason or African American.
And I say this because I have read up on it, i have studied it and I have talked to people of numerous races on this subject. And they don't like it when someone denies their heritage because to them, it is a fundamental part of who they are and their shared experiences.
And I do understand, you do not like universities thinking they are expensive and produce useless results


I feel that old Teddy had something to say about this:

"Theodore Roosevelt on hyphenated Americans: "There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all."

"This is just as true of the man who puts “native” before the hyphen as of the man who puts German or Irish or English or French before the hyphen. Americanism is a matter of the spirit and of the soul. Our allegiance must be purely to the United States. We must unsparingly condemn any man who holds any other allegiance."

"But if he is heartily and singly loyal to this Republic, then no matter where he was born, he is just as good an American as any one else."

"The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English- Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian- Americans, or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality than with the other citizens of the American Republic."

"The men who do not become Americans and nothing else are hyphenated Americans; and there ought to be no room for them in this country. The man who calls himself an American citizen and who yet shows by his actions that he is primarily the citizen of a foreign land, plays a thoroughly mischievous part in the life of our body politic. He has no place here; and the sooner he returns to the land to which he feels his real heart-allegiance, the better it will be for every good American."

I am imagining the number of dashes I could lay claim to. The European posters here, if I read them correctly, are highly amused by people here in the U.S. Identifying themselves by whatever country in Europe their ancestors came from. The same from what I know, is true of Africans. My friends that have met people from Africa have been told that they may call themselves Africans, but they are not, they are American. They may have the trappings of Africa about them, but they have not lived African, they have lived American.

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 hotsauceman1 wrote:

Why do you think there are orginizations like black pride clubs at schools? Its because they do feel the need to reach out for others with shared racial experiance



Go into ANY school across the country and ask to form a "White Pride" club at their location, and tell us what happens. Personally, all of the "X Pride" clubs are just as bad as the Black Panthers, KKK or ANY of the other racially motivated political/hate groups.

It's actually quite good that someone like Raven came out saying "I'm an American, not a hyphenated American" (paraphrasing). She is smart enough to have realized that her "roots" in Africa are so far back and so far gone that she doesn't have roots in Africa, she has roots in the Bayous of Louisiana. Perhaps with her lead, others will do the same and quite possibly, many years from now, "dethrone" Oprah and Jackson and all these other race baiting talking-heads.

   
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I think that is good too. But some people here didn't understand why what she said was controversial

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 hotsauceman1 wrote:
I think that is good too. But some people here didn't understand why what she said was controversial


Like who?

No one said they don't understand why. People have said it SHOULDN'T be.

 
   
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Things just got weird today...

The activist and at least 10 others were arrested after they tried to bring their protest inside the Ferguson police headquarters.
Dr. Cornell West arrested. #ferguson pic.twitter.com/HwlXPLNOqc

— Craig Cheatham (@CheathamKMOV) October 13, 2014

@CornelWest being arrested after asking "Will we be allowed to enter a public building?" #Ferguson #MoralMonday pic.twitter.com/1lD1M1RS6K

— Stop1033.org (@stop1033) October 13, 2014



And last night...
Several protesters are carrying “End white supremacy” signs.


“#Ferguson protestors now younger, angrier, targeting middle-class. Crime up along Canfield because of no cops.” http://t.co/iVK7NCq34C

— Soylent Gay Mafia (@kpb08) October 13, 2014

Uh... wat?

The protester's signs include, “Racism kills” and “Police put your pepper spray down.”

Occupy the Grove! #FegusonOctober #TheyThinkItsAGame #TheyThinkItsAJoke pic.twitter.com/ijTjdQNdJ2

— Tomás Garrett (@tjg1903) October 13, 2014


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Well, with that last picture, at least they're honest... It's no longer "We want Justice" it's "We want an Indictment"



2 completely different things
   
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Cincinnati, Ohio

I can't help but think the "End White Supremacy" sign does nothing positive....

 
   
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proof that idiots still roam free and why they should be trying to fund the school more lol

If you think about where the bullets hit, it would line up if he put his hand up and did a charge, which was what the cop said also he was a football player and thats how they charge. Seems about right

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Probably work

You'd think, what with their aversion to getting killed, they would be endorsing pepper spray, or outright just demanding that the police not waste their time showing up to begin with. Oh well.

 whembly wrote:


Occupy the Grove! #FegusonOctober #TheyThinkItsAGame #TheyThinkItsAJoke pic.twitter.com/ijTjdQNdJ2

— Tomás Garrett (@tjg1903) October 13, 2014



Wow. That's getting close to Soulard. I suppose it's appropriate that I'm moving this weekend.


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It's going off the chains man...

The protesters moved from the Ferguson police department tonight over to the Walmart (off of West Florissant?).
The Walmart closed down early.

#Ferguson PD retreat from Walmart driveway. #FergusonOctober activists & media block entrance, shutting it down. pic.twitter.com/FGcWPyq6Vk

— David (@TheZOMB) October 13, 2014


Then.. they went to a second Walmart in Maplewood (of all places). o.O

Getting word that #FergusonOctober activists are heading to a second Walmart to protest. #Ferguson #WeekendOfResistance

— Andrew Westmoreland (@drewwest_press) October 14, 2014




Police pushing everyone out of the Walmart in Maplewood. #FergusonOctober pic.twitter.com/P1sACmS0bf

— Michael Calhoun (@michaelcalhoun) October 14, 2014


Here's a vine:
https://vine.co/v/OqmMWPTwgzP

Several protesters were arrested:
RT @michaelcalhoun: Protesters being put in back of police van. #FergusonOctober pic.twitter.com/zQLZjwh2CJ #Maplewood #Walmart

— Staci D Kramer (@sdkstl) October 14, 2014



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They even protested at an upscale shopping center:



Vine:
https://vine.co/v/Oq7rTeZqAxO

https://vine.co/v/Oq7rt3bgEOt




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Dozens of protesters still chanting outside of Steve Stenger/Claire McCaskill fundraiser #FergusonOctober
https://vine.co/v/OqZQvBwEhB7/

o.O

Sounds like there are some groups "coordinating" all of this.

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 whembly wrote:
It's going off the chains man...

The protesters moved from the Ferguson police department tonight over to the Walmart (off of West Florissant?).
The Walmart closed down early.

#Ferguson PD retreat from Walmart driveway. #FergusonOctober activists & media block entrance, shutting it down. pic.twitter.com/FGcWPyq6Vk

— David (@TheZOMB) October 13, 2014


Then.. they went to a second Walmart in Maplewood (of all places). o.O

Getting word that #FergusonOctober activists are heading to a second Walmart to protest. #Ferguson #WeekendOfResistance

— Andrew Westmoreland (@drewwest_press) October 14, 2014




Police pushing everyone out of the Walmart in Maplewood. #FergusonOctober pic.twitter.com/P1sACmS0bf

— Michael Calhoun (@michaelcalhoun) October 14, 2014


Here's a vine:
https://vine.co/v/OqmMWPTwgzP

Several protesters were arrested:
RT @michaelcalhoun: Protesters being put in back of police van. #FergusonOctober pic.twitter.com/zQLZjwh2CJ #Maplewood #Walmart

— Staci D Kramer (@sdkstl) October 14, 2014



Automatically Appended Next Post:
They even protested at an upscale shopping center:



Vine:
https://vine.co/v/Oq7rTeZqAxO

https://vine.co/v/Oq7rt3bgEOt




Automatically Appended Next Post:
Dozens of protesters still chanting outside of Steve Stenger/Claire McCaskill fundraiser #FergusonOctober
https://vine.co/v/OqZQvBwEhB7/

o.O

Sounds like there are some groups "coordinating" all of this.

I understand protesting outside the police stations, but what legitimate purpose is served by protesting police actions in Wal-Mart?


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 Co'tor Shas wrote:
Or making it so they can't buy them.

Felons already cannot legally buy a firearm. It is also a Federal offence to knowingly sell a firearm (even if you are a private seller) to an improper person, such as a felon.

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
As in going after the illegal sales. It's rather obvious, the best way to stop felons from getting the guns in the first place, is to stop it at the source. Track large gun sales, stuff like that.

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
No, not like F&F. Actually doing the job well. Not suppliing the guns, but having gun manufactures and vendors report when thy receive a large order for guns and ammuntion. If that doesn't work, than try something else. Just keep trying until you can severely damage the illegal suppliers. And this should be something we could all agree on, keeping guns away from gangs and illegal weapons dealers.

People who cannot legally purchase firearms are unlikely to go directly to a manufacturer to place a bulk order. The only people who typically order from manufacturers in bulk are FFL stores, and criminals aren't typically customers there. Criminals get their firearms through illegal channels. Going after legal channels is barking up the wrong tree

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
The people who buy the guns ti sell them to gangs.

You mean a straw purchase, which is illegal and which stores are typically very vigilant about reporting?

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 whembly wrote:
It's going off the chains man...

The protesters moved from the Ferguson police department tonight over to the Walmart (off of West Florissant?).
The Walmart closed down early.


So we finally find something that shuts down a WalMart...

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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 Frazzled wrote:
 whembly wrote:
It's going off the chains man...

The protesters moved from the Ferguson police department tonight over to the Walmart (off of West Florissant?).
The Walmart closed down early.


So we finally find something that shuts down a WalMart...


Maybe it was a test-run for the post-Thanksgiving shopping frenzy?
   
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Sounds like there are some groups "coordinating" all of this.

Is It a secret organization with the initials "DNC?"

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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Curb stomping in the Eye of Terror!

The New Black Panther made an appearance at the protest by the Ferguson PD:



Here is the transcript of the masked New Black Panther to cops:

Panther - Y’all declared war when yall had killed Mike Brown!

Panther - Yall declared war!

Panther – Y’all declared war when you killed Vonderrit Myers!

Panther - This is a revolution. the revolution is the only solution.

Panther - No revolution with out your bloodshed!

Panther - This IS the Gray State. This is the Gray State!

Panther - You kill us, we kill you.

By-stander - Praise Jesus!

Panther - NO JESUS! PRAISE ALLAH! PRAISE TO ALLAH!

Panther - Only praise to Allah king of king and lord of lords. We will not fall.

Panther - Save yourself (pointing at cops).


Isn't that cute?

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 whembly wrote:


Panther - Y’all declared war when yall had killed Mike Brown!

Panther - Yall declared war!

Panther – Y’all declared war when you killed Vonderrit Myers!

Panther - This is a revolution. the revolution is the only solution.

Panther - No revolution with out your bloodshed!

Panther - This IS the Gray State. This is the Gray State!

Panther - You kill us, we kill you.

By-stander - Praise Jesus!

Panther - NO JESUS! PRAISE ALLAH! PRAISE TO ALLAH!

Panther - Only praise to Allah king of king and lord of lords. We will not fall.

Panther - Save yourself (pointing at cops).


Isn't that cute?


I think its adorable when tired relics try to be relevant.

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squidhills wrote:


I think its adorable when tired relics try to be relevant.



My guess is this guy is completely ignorant of the "real" Black Panther movement of the 60s and 70s, and so, as a "New Black Panther" isn't so much an adorable relic, as a dangerous, new ignorance masquerading and revelling in past "glories"
   
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http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/14/us/st-louis-officer-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

(CNN) -- Lab results are back in the case of a teenager who died in a police shooting in St. Louis last week, and they show gun residue on the clothing and body of Vonderrit Myers, authorities said Tuesday.
The residue was found on Myers' shirt, jeans and hand, according to a release from St. Louis police.
Its presence on his hand could mean that he discharged a firearm, was near a firearm when it went off or that Myers touched something with gun residue on it, police said. People shot at close range could also have residue deposited on their hands.
Myers was fatally shot Wednesday by a St. Louis officer, who was off-duty but wearing his uniform while moonlighting for a security company. Police have said the teenager fired a pistol three times at the officer.
The shooting sparked street protests, with residents pointing out similarities to the August killing of Michael Brown in nearby Ferguson, Missouri.
Myers and Brown were both 18 and black and killed by white police officers. However, unlike Myers, authorities say Brown was not armed.
Myers was struck by seven or eight bullets, St. Louis city Medical Examiner Dr. Michael Graham said last week.
Police say the officer fired his pistol 17 times.
"All but one gunshot wound were to the lower extremities," Graham said. "The one fatal wound was to the head."

 
   
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Curb stomping in the Eye of Terror!

Okay... can the protesters please go home now?

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