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 cincydooley wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
I guess the tree isn't too far from the apple.

It makes me a little sick to my stomach that they attacked people that were in support of her son....

Is it me or does that mean
1. the grandmother of the dead man was profiting off the dead man.
2. The mother attacked the grandmother?
Thats....crazy

 Frazzled wrote:


Is it me or does that mean
1. the grandmother of the dead man was profiting off the dead man.
2. The mother attacked the grandmother?
Thats....crazy

I think that's right. It also seems to indicate that Browns other Grandmother was in the mob that attacked the first grandmother.

I think I need a flowchart....

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
It makes me question her sanity
"Hey, my son is being portrayed as a violent thug, let's do some thing that shows where he got it from"

Not condoning this woman's actions at all, but she did just lose her son and her son's death has touched off a national discussion about police violence. She has been under intense scrutiny via the media all the while having to come to terms with the fact her son was recently killed. I don't know how I'd behave in a similar situation, but I can imagine I would not be thinking as rationally as I would under normal circumstances. Obviously, attacking people and robbing them is not the way to handle whatever emotions are surging through her, but the larger context of the strain she is under should be considered as well.

Now, it is certainly possible that her actions were motivated by greed, or family grievances (wasn't one of the women attacked a former mother-in-law?) but without knowing the full story I am not ready to label her crazy just yet. This lady is under some extreme pressure and I think anyone could potentially "snap" and lash out given what she has experienced in the last two months.

And again, her actions were wrong in this incident. Absolutely wrong and she should suffer the consequences of assaulting and robbing people, but she is a bereaved mother with a whole nation of gawkers at her back. That isn't normal, and likely would compound the difficult issues associated with grief.

I agree with everything you said, Dark.

I still think she crazy.

 cincydooley wrote:
I agree with everything you said, Dark.

I still think she crazy.

Fair enough!

I agree with DarkTraveler too.

If something of the like happened locally I know I for one would have at least consulted with the relatives of the victim before printing up a bunch of T-shirts. Not because I'd necessarily be legally bound to, but it would have been the tactful thing to do, the way I see it.

 Aesop the God Awful wrote:
I agree with DarkTraveler too.

If something of the like happened locally I know I for one would have at least consulted with the relatives of the victim before printing up a bunch of T-shirts. Not because I'd necessarily be legally bound to, but it would have been the tactful thing to do, the way I see it.

Pretty sure the mother of the victim is actually printing her own t-shirts and selling them.

I think this wasn't a matter of profiting from his death, but rather that only she can.


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It's all distasteful, really.

The whole area are clentching their butt because the Grand Jury verdict might be tonight or Saturday.

Why?

A) It's after the election...

B) Jay Nixon announced a committee to build a new NFL stadium...

C) The Ferguson-Florissant school board implored the DA to release the results over the weekend...

D) Regional police/hospital are guessing it's "this weekend"

I don't know what's worse, the family selling t-shirts or fighting over them.

Time to pucker up your collective arses.

The workers in downtown Clayton, MO have been told to go home at 1pm.

Looks like an announcement on the Michael Brown case was imminent.

Time to bring the pain!

Be safe!

Also... saw this Police are blockading some streets in Ferguson.

just was told the police are blocking some streets in Ferguson. guy is from out of town so doesn't know exact names of streets. Odd.

— ShordeeDooWhop (@Nettaaaaaaaa) November 10, 2014

If it ain't today, it's soon.

I just hope it isn't Blizzard's nortorious Soon™.

Its absurd that that they feel they have to do that.

Absurd.

Well... derp.

Misinformation rear'ed it's ugly head.

The Prosecutor slammed this rumour and still insisted that the announcement would be mid-to-late November.

*shrug*

Who knows now.

They could very say "PSYCHE!" and announce it in 10 minutes.

They should just do it on Black Friday. That would be hilarious.

 cincydooley wrote:
They should just do it on Black Friday. That would be hilarious.

Oh .

That would be hysterical!

 whembly wrote:

 cincydooley wrote:
They should just do it on Black Friday. That would be hilarious.

Oh .

That would be hysterical!

Are you here for the deals or the looting?!

 cincydooley wrote:

 whembly wrote:

 cincydooley wrote:
They should just do it on Black Friday. That would be hilarious.

Oh .

That would be hysterical!

Are you here for the deals or the looting?!

Prices so low, we're practically giv... cowering in fear as you throw the cinderblock through the window!

Things are starting to ramp up...

Governor to announce law enforcement plans for Ferguson grand jury announcement

Missouri Gov. Jay Nixon will announce law enforcement plans for the aftermath of the grand jury announcement in the Michael Brown shooting case at a press conference today.

Nixon will discuss plans with the media at 2 p.m. at the Missouri Highway Patrol's area headquarters in Weldon Spring.

The grand jury is considering charges against Ferguson Officer Darren Wilson, who shot Michael Brown, 18, on Aug. 9 in Ferguson. The shooting sparked months of protests and calls for change in government, the criminal justice system and other areas to address long-standing complaints.

St. Louis County Prosecuting Attorney Robert McCulloch said Monday that the grand jury is still working on the case. He repeated that the grand jury would likely complete their work in mid- to late November.

Wouldn't police preparedness kind of hint at a "no indictment" result?

 SlaveToDorkness wrote:
Wouldn't police preparedness kind of hint at a "no indictment" result?

That's kind of what I was thinking. I don't think it's enough to completely confirm it, but I agree that that could certainly be the suggestion.

The probably want to be prepared either way. Could have celebratory rioting.

So people already know the result of a secret deliberation that is still in progress and people wonder why others are suspicios of the process? I would hope that's not the case.

I would hope that they still don't know what the results are and that they just managed to learn from their clusterfeth of a response and are making sure that they are preparing for all possible outcomes.

 d-usa wrote:
So people already know the result of a secret deliberation that is still in progress and people wonder why others are suspicios of the process? I would hope that's not the case.

I would hope that they still don't know what the results are and that they just managed to learn from their clusterfeth of a response and are making sure that they are preparing for all possible outcomes.

That's my perception.

To be honest... it's too quiet.

I think it's fairly easy to predict that we aren't going beyond a reasonable doubt for murder charges, and anything less than that is going to probably mean riots.

OR the police are trying to keep prepared no matter what.
Man, The Pro-Mike Brown Stuff is getting stupid at my school.

 whembly wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
So people already know the result of a secret deliberation that is still in progress and people wonder why others are suspicios of the process? I would hope that's not the case.

I would hope that they still don't know what the results are and that they just managed to learn from their clusterfeth of a response and are making sure that they are preparing for all possible outcomes.

That's my perception.

To be honest... it's too quiet.

Saw about 3-4 police cars along 270 (and overpasses) on the way home from Heroic Adventures (so, along the Florissant area) tonight at various locations. Seemed a little thick for a random Tuesday night, but several of them had people pulled over, so maybe it's nothing.

 d-usa wrote:
So people already know the result of a secret deliberation that is still in progress and people wonder why others are suspicios of the process? I would hope that's not the case.

I would hope that they still don't know what the results are and that they just managed to learn from their clusterfeth of a response and are making sure that they are preparing for all possible outcomes.

That makes sense. I didn't realize deliberations were still ongoing. Of course, there may be officials who are aware of the evidence (or lack thereof, as the case may be) and might be able to figure out which outcome is most likely. But I agree that they're probably preparing for anything.

 daedalus wrote:

 whembly wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
So people already know the result of a secret deliberation that is still in progress and people wonder why others are suspicios of the process? I would hope that's not the case.

I would hope that they still don't know what the results are and that they just managed to learn from their clusterfeth of a response and are making sure that they are preparing for all possible outcomes.

That's my perception.

To be honest... it's too quiet.

Saw about 3-4 police cars along 270 (and overpasses) on the way home from Heroic Adventures (so, along the Florissant area) tonight at various locations. Seemed a little thick for a random Tuesday night, but several of them had people pulled over, so maybe it's nothing.

Busting folks partying too hard on Veteran's Day. Cops around here always have more presence on holidays where folks may be drinking and driving.

 d-usa wrote:
So people already know the result of a secret deliberation that is still in progress and people wonder why others are suspicios of the process? I would hope that's not the case.

I would hope that they still don't know what the results are and that they just managed to learn from their clusterfeth of a response and are making sure that they are preparing for all possible outcomes.

At this point knowledge is not relevant. It would be poor oversight to not start preparing for riots either way.


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 hotsauceman1 wrote:
OR the police are trying to keep prepared no matter what.
Man, The Pro-Mike Brown Stuff is getting stupid at my school.

You're in the humanities section of a UC school. Of course it is. Whats funny is that crowd wouldn't be caught dead in East LA because, well you would be dead if you went to East LA.