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 Acardia wrote:


Hierotitan as well as Khermitic Titan and Necolith Colosus (Last two from Monsterous Arcanum) do not have a model, this would be cool stand in for any of those. Base size does matter though.

I hadn't thought about this, but I can definitely see this as having PHENOMENAL conversion potential for those.

Yep. Seeing it now. Just gotta find a set of scales that will work...

 Acardia wrote:

 Sigvatr wrote:
Meh, I don't really like it...it's...weird. The model doesn't look too bad for modern GW standards. The proportions are off, but the model is...ok.

It's just...well...it's only usuable at 4000+ points battles. That alone is...ugh. You can't proxy it for another regular caster because of its giant size. And what, to me, is the worst: the rules. If you want to play him effectively, you basically put him behind cannon-proof cover and then just have him standing there pumping out more undead.

How is that fun? Having a huge, impressive model that does nothing but sitting around in the backyard, basically becoming more of a marker? That's...not very fun promising. Meh :(

Hierotitan as well as Khermitic Titan and Necolith Colosus (Last two from Monsterous Arcanum) do not have a model, this would be cool stand in for any of those. Base size does matter though.

I did see a rumour (on BoLS so... Yeah) that there's also a plastic TK Titan and WoC plastic Chosen kit coming.

 Uriels_Flame wrote:
So is my Mac being ridiculous, or did all the pictures being hosted disappear?

I only see the pic of the WoW liche.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/150/610256.page#7117661

 Vermis wrote:

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Reading this, I was hoping you'd name any actual design guidelines broken by the model (of which I can immediately name two - poor detail distribution as well as poor proportion scaling in relation to overall size).

What I got instead was an unrelated tirade on brainwashed manchildren. I was also told large models are apparently infantile. It's obvious this isn't about Nagash in particular, but rather about your opinion on GW (and GW customers) in general.

Thing is, I have no interest in your opinion on GW in general. I was willing to discuss the model, but if you're not interested in that, it's time for me to stop this exchange, since we clearly want to talk about different subjects.

via Steve the Warboss on Faeit 212
Chaos Warriors becomes a Chosen Plastic Kit.

For Khemri we will see a Colossus Model.

He means "get", I guess?

 Sigvatr wrote:
He means "get", I guess?

Well, it's GW. Creative repackaging is their thing, although that would probably take the cake.

Something about this makes me very happy. Three weeks of fantasy release sounds interesting. Nagash and a couple kits to start us off, then what? What will GW be giving us?

So if Nagash is so powerful, what's to stop the Chaos Gods laughin' about this and cramming a size 200 boot up this things butt with some beefed up champion infused with all the right loving?

I don't understand Fantasy much, but it would seem that your big bad based on mortal powers to create immortality would be frail in comparison to the Chaos Gods?

 TheKbob wrote:
So if Nagash is so powerful, what's to stop the Chaos Gods laughin' about this and cramming a size 200 boot up this things butt with some beefed up champion infused with all the right loving?

I don't understand Fantasy much, but it would seem that your big bad based on mortal powers to create immortality would be frail in comparison to the Chaos Gods?

There's a rumour doing the rounds that there will be an updated/alternative model for Archon the Everchosen, Chaos's champion in the mortal realm. So you're probably right!

jkillerb wrote:

Oh Myyyyyy!

 TheKbob wrote:
So if Nagash is so powerful, what's to stop the Chaos Gods laughin' about this and cramming a size 200 boot up this things butt with some beefed up champion infused with all the right loving?

Nothing really. He and the rest of the walking dead is an issue the Chaos Gods will most likely address in their own time, unless forced to do otherwise. Like if he tries to pull another "kill everything" ritual or something.

Oh dear God, Chaos/Empire alliance incoming. Archaon/Valten brofist almost assured.

I know I have joined late in this debate but I think it's VC after all it does say the 'dead rise' I liked their last reboot hopefully new stuff would look awesome.

I have been waiting since 1993 for this Nagash model. I've been waiting about 15 years for my Undead army to become legal again.

Finally...! Now i just have to open up the fifty storage boxes of my Warhammer stuff and re-assemble the troops!

Oh wait...maybe Nagash can do that for me

*faints*


p.s. Asked about this in local store, just for the fun of listening to a GW drone deny knowledge of it coming up any time soon. Will be re-visiting after the WD is released to ask why he lied to me

 thenoobbomb wrote:

 Sigvatr wrote:
....why is he a giant? Wasn't the original model normal-sized?

The original was on a pretty large base too, wasn't he?

And besides, if you were an evil Undead overlord that raises armies of dead guys with but a word, you'd kinda want to be a bit bigger too, eh?

The model loks awesome! I think he'll be in the Treeman-thing price range.

Technically Nagash is supposed to be 8-9 foot tall. by fluff standards, of course.

I love it. Can totally see other uses.

 Casbyness wrote:

p.s. Asked about this in local store, just for the fun of listening to a GW drone deny knowledge of it coming up any time soon. Will be re-visiting after the WD is released to ask why he lied to me

Because he very well may not know?

Seriously. They are generally as in the dark as the rest of the playerbase that do no frequent forums.

 TheKbob wrote:
So if Nagash is so powerful, what's to stop the Chaos Gods laughin' about this and cramming a size 200 boot up this things butt with some beefed up champion infused with all the right loving?

Well, if the champion fails, then Nagash will resurrect her or him, and will therefore have some very, very powerful new champion, meaning doom for the realms of WaFaBa. Krell style. Okay, I really wanted to write WaFaBa .

Well it i better than the previous version, but i rather would like to see some better pictures. But if WFB is going unbound can i field 4 Nagash's in a 4000 pts game?

 Jehan-reznor wrote:
Well it i better than the previous version, but i rather would like to see some better pictures. But if WFB is going unbound can i field 4 Nagash's in a 4000 pts game?

Lol. You'd need a LOT of spare models in your bag. Okay, so Nagash 1 summons 60 skeletons. Hang on...there. Now Nagash 2 summons 50 skeletons. Give me a min...alright. So Nagash 3 summons...86 ghouls.

 Jehan-reznor wrote:
Well it i better than the previous version, but i rather would like to see some better pictures. But if WFB is going unbound can i field 4 Nagash's in a 4000 pts game?

No, because you cannot field duplicate characters.

Rookie move.

 Ratius wrote:
Why does everyone hate the old Nagash model, I think it has a certain charm to it.

In the flesh?

Off the top of my head,
He was a joke. Hat was stolen from a gobo shaman, his robe was meh, his head was too big. He was small, even by the figures standards. A skaven rat-lord was larger then he was, a Treeman,, Orion, and pretty much the larger monsters all dwarfed him.

This one is going to cost in the range of $50-75.00 on the low end, I can already see it.

I do like the idea of just parking him, raising hordes and let them tie up units, while you have some heavy hitters thumping them with artillery, like a screaming skull, or the spirit hosts Ghostbuster swarms.

That has some possibilities, but if he can't come in a smaller game, he'll be a glass cannon. everyone on the table will be gunning for him, tie him up, and keep him locked down while they take over the high ground. (He's 50/50 in my eyes right now. waiting on how the rest of the game pans out before I commit anything else to fantasy. I'd rather dum a gak load of cash into feebay and pick up some warhammer quest stuff at this point, or maybe some more older Mordhiem gangs.

Hope the game pans out though, I have a chaos army that really would like to see finished.

I see how big the model of him is and was really just wondering if they are trying to rush models out for fantasy and Kirby greenlite the 3up of Nagash, and someone in production forgot to shrink it down. Now they are just going with it.

weeble1000 wrote:

 Jehan-reznor wrote:
Well it i better than the previous version, but i rather would like to see some better pictures. But if WFB is going unbound can i field 4 Nagash's in a 4000 pts game?

Lol. You'd need a LOT of spare models in your bag.

How can we sell more skeletons lads? Make it so the new Nagash summons ridiculous amounts of them? Perfect.

 Grimskul wrote:
I hope it comes with a little tiny cat called Mr. Bigglesworth...

Is it possible for WFB models to have deathrattles? On topic, that Nagash model is absolutely spectacular, so far as I can tell. If the cost isn't too prohibitive I may end up getting one just to paint, because it's lovely.

 puma713 wrote:

weeble1000 wrote:

 Jehan-reznor wrote:
Well it i better than the previous version, but i rather would like to see some better pictures. But if WFB is going unbound can i field 4 Nagash's in a 4000 pts game?

Lol. You'd need a LOT of spare models in your bag.

How can we sell more skeletons lads? Make it so the new Nagash summons ridiculous amounts of them? Perfect.

Depending on what the "Raise the Dead" counters do, it might not be as ridiculous as you think.

We don't know what exactly the Lore of Undeath summoning spell does but if it's similar to Raise Dead it might be 2D6+3 Skeletons/Zombies.

On the one hand, ive never seen better cannon bait in my life. on the other... i really wonder just how much he can throw down. i want to get a look at that Lore of Undeath...

... could that be how they will "add undead" to the other races? are the Skaven necromancers coming back? hrm.

Do we know whether this is a TK or VC release? From the minis in the Nagash pic I would assume the latter. His armour looks like it could go either way - he's got the Ancient Egyptian style beard and whatnot going on but the ribbed armour plating (clearest on the legs) looks very VC imo.

What do we think?

It looks to be neither.

There are multiple mentions in the rules of "The Undead Legions".

 Kanluwen wrote:
It looks to be neither.

There are multiple mentions in the rules of "The Undead Legions".