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I want to start my own SoB order but after doing some research I found out that they aren't really relevant anymore ? Are Gamesworkshop going to drop them just like they did the Squats ? (Really also would like to build a Squat army but that isn't an option anymore). I find the SoB really cool and was wondering if it would be worth it to create an order and play with them.

If you like being ripped off more than usual then there is no reason not too

Im very certain they wont be dropped though. But they probably wont be updated much either. Your army, more than likely (if you get them) wont change much over the years.

In my opinion, if you really want some, just get a few of them for allies or something.

I'm still convinced GW will push them again eventually as plastics.

When I started in 3rd there were no grey knights and now there are loads, imperial armies with 3+ and bolters sell well, no reason for GW not to capitalise on the sisters.

 Swastakowey wrote:
If you like being ripped off more than usual then there is no reason not too

Im very certain they wont be dropped though. But they probably wont be updated much either. Your army, more than likely (if you get them) wont change much over the years.

In my opinion, if you really want some, just get a few of them for allies or something.

So it is possible to use them as a strike group when playing an IG army or SM army ?

They are battle brothers so yes!

There is a digital Codex for them, Codex: Adepta Sororitas.

Are they viable? Very.
Are they top-tier? No.

Can they bring the hurt? Very much so, at point-blank or medium range.

Allied with IG, they can definitely bring the pain. If you are playing larger-point games, a CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT can deliver a *lot* of Sisters into the face of the enemy, while also providing a lot of fire support when they get there.

Supporting the Sisters with IG is perfectly valid for a War of Faith or an Imperial Crusade.

Congratulations my inability to not snigger everytime I read CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT has just woken up my wife!

In a recent league I was in, SoB won the whole thing. Of course, he was using an unbound exorcist spam list that could shoot like 60 freaking missiles at you every turn from across the table. I was the only player to beat him out of 20 something games. He even beat tau (got lucky in a maelstrom game), and eldar (guy just used his fun/fluffy list).

engimato wrote:Are Gamesworkshop going to drop them just like they did the Squats ?

No. They learned their lesson with the Squats. The Sisters will continue to get intermittent rules updates to keep them usable from edition to edition.

(Really also would like to build a Squat army but that isn't an option anymore).

Do what everyone else does. Use them as Counts-As Imperial Guard. Functionally, they were basically equivalent to IGuard back in Rogue Trader anyway (flak armor, lasguns). You can't really use the ExoArmor, but I guess you could CA them as Space Marines or something. Getting the models will be a bit of a pain in the butt though.

I find the SoB really cool and was wondering if it would be worth it to create an order and play with them.

Nothing about this hobby has "worth" to it other than the enjoyment you get out of it.

There is a Space Dwarf model line from BTD Miniatures.

There's not *many* models in the line, but it's a starting point.

http://www.blacktreedesign.com/northamerica/product.php?productid=25474&cat=2599&page=1

For Squats

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/433105762/olleys-armies-dwarven-prussian-army-scrunt-miniatu

This guy has made many cool Squat models. I just use them as guardsmen for my army.

Yeah, they're a bit more difficult to get into than other armies. You may have to use eBay to get some models. But sure, they're viable. If you're starting them off as allies, look into a Dominion squad with meltas and an Immolator, or an Exorcist or two. Very hard-hitting stuff.

 Veteran Sergeant wrote:
No. They learned their lesson with the Squats. The Sisters will continue to get intermittent rules updates to keep them usable from edition to edition.

It's not the same situation. With the Squats, the devs felt that they didn't fit in thematically. The Sisters don't have that problem at all, and their only hold-up is on that the sculptors haven't yet gotten around to re-doing the range.

 Troike wrote:
Yeah, they're a bit more difficult to get into than other armies. You may have to use eBay to get some models. But sure, they're viable. If you're starting them off as allies, look into a Dominion squad with meltas and an Immolator, or an Exorcist or two. Very hard-hitting stuff.

 Veteran Sergeant wrote:
No. They learned their lesson with the Squats. The Sisters will continue to get intermittent rules updates to keep them usable from edition to edition.

It's not the same situation. With the Squats, the devs felt that they didn't fit in thematically. The Sisters don't have that problem at all, and their only hold-up is on that the sculptors haven't yet gotten around to re-doing the range.

You're misunderstanding what I said.

I'm saying the learned their lesson about discontinuing an army completely.

The reasons why the Sisters have been left to languish are debated plenty. And we've never gotten, nor will we ever, get an actual, truthful answer from Games Workshop because it serves their interest to give the appearance that they at least nominally exist in the game. And publishing a codex in White Dwarf or an e-codex out of recycled fluff and re-sourced artwork is incredibly cheap to do since it doesn't involve much in the way of creative assets.

But what I said is that they learned their lesson about abandoning an army. They took crap for a decade from Squats players, and rightly so. These were customers who spent money on their product, and then their product was unceremoniously dumped. So when they decided to stop making new Sisters models ten years ago, the decision was obviously made to continue publishing rules for them so that the players would be able to use them in games. Continuing to publish rules for the Sisters is the right thing to do, from a customer service perspective, and it's fairly low cost.

SOB are now battle bros with all of the imperium. Its a stealth 7th update to them. Before they was only battle bros to imperial guard and inquision. Yes they are very relevent now. I un packed mine. It just like the gray knights being battle bros to all.
Only 5 man marine squad that can take a full load out of heavy weapons qith out having to have 10 for the 2nd. Run them in rhinos fire the flamers or meltas out of the top hatch jump out to secure objectives after the roast.

 Veteran Sergeant wrote:
The reasons why the Sisters have been left to languish are debated plenty. And we've never gotten, nor will we ever, get an actual, truthful answer from Games Workshop

Well... Actually, we pretty much have. Jes Goodwin cites a hold-up on the modelling side here, here and here (this is the same event as the previous link, but a differen person's account). Phil Kelly also said that he was vaguely aware of there being some issues with modelling. Anyway, the point is that it's been pretty much spelled out, at this point. GW would want to do them at some point, but the sculptors haven't gotten down to it yet.

 Veteran Sergeant wrote:
But what I said is that they learned their lesson about abandoning an army. They took crap for a decade from Squats players, and rightly so.

Eh, I still don't think that it really applies, because I'm pretty sure that they never planned to drop the Sisters in the first place. So it's not really a lesson that applies to the Sisters.

 Veteran Sergeant wrote:
So when they decided to stop making new Sisters models ten years ago

Not quite what happened. They didn't decide to stop. They wanted to keep going, but there were modelling issues. The key thing here is that they want make plastic SoBs, and have attempted to do so.

 Troike wrote:

 Veteran Sergeant wrote:
The reasons why the Sisters have been left to languish are debated plenty. And we've never gotten, nor will we ever, get an actual, truthful answer from Games Workshop

Well... Actually, we pretty much have. Jes Goodwin cites a hold-up on the modelling side here, here and here (this is the same event as the previous link, but a differen person's account). Phil Kelly also said that he was vaguely aware of there being some issues with modelling. Anyway, the point is that it's been pretty much spelled out, at this point. GW would want to do them at some point, but the sculptors haven't gotten down to it yet.

I stand by what I wrote, lol. What you choose to believe is a different story. I feel like your narrative is comforting to you.

 Veteran Sergeant wrote:

 Troike wrote:

 Veteran Sergeant wrote:
The reasons why the Sisters have been left to languish are debated plenty. And we've never gotten, nor will we ever, get an actual, truthful answer from Games Workshop

Well... Actually, we pretty much have. Jes Goodwin cites a hold-up on the modelling side here, here and here (this is the same event as the previous link, but a differen person's account). Phil Kelly also said that he was vaguely aware of there being some issues with modelling. Anyway, the point is that it's been pretty much spelled out, at this point. GW would want to do them at some point, but the sculptors haven't gotten down to it yet.

I stand by what I wrote, lol. What you choose to believe is a different story. I feel like your narrative is comforting to you.

I agree, it feels like GW is just making excuses not to bother with them. I mean, I cant think of another existing faction that has had less attention than the sisters, and they keep the fans hoping with excuses (in my opinion). Thats the reason there are so many Sisters rumours all the time. Im pretty sure, that digital update is all they are getting for a long time.

Nothing official has ever came from GW about modeling issues with Sisters. I am not trying to be mean, but Sisters are just not popular with the masses enough to warrant a significant investment at this point. Maybe, after all the codexes are updated, they will work on a campaign supplement and drop some plastic for them.

Collecting SoB is the 40K hobby set to iron man mode. It is a path filled with blood, tears, and a shattered wallet. It is also one of the most fulfilling armies to collect.

In terms of rules they are pretty good right now. I would say upper middle tier. They can win even against top tier lists and more importantly they are fun to play as and against.

The models still look great and there have been some new vehicles from forgeworld. Pretty much the entire model range looks great. Hard to convert metal miniatures though. There are however some third party miniatures that work well and toughest girls in the galaxy have plans to make a line.

GW can't be bothered to do anything with the sisters. Sometimes they make half hearted excuses but nothing ever gets done. They're very expensive to collect and it's all metal. They won't get any real support anytime soon.

GW hates sisters. This is an established fact.

After almost a decade they got a new (digital) codex and yet this was merely a glorified FAQ rather than any actual effort.

Since the dex has already been made, my money is on the fact that we wont see a plastic revamp for another decade.

Since GW is dropping metal and even finecast in the future, it wouldnt surprise me when they went the way of the squats.

engimato wrote:
I want to start my own SoB order but after doing some research I found out that they aren't really relevant anymore ? Are Gamesworkshop going to drop them just like they did the Squats ? (Really also would like to build a Squat army but that isn't an option anymore). I find the SoB really cool and was wondering if it would be worth it to create an order and play with them.

Worth it. Iv e won more tournies w them than any other tourney army. Veryy competitive. Won the first two i played in in 6E, and that pattern continued all the way back to fourth edition. I recommend you mech them up and plan on spending money on special weapons cause SOB get more than their share. As Relevant as ever.

Bu...bu...but it's those darned sleeves! That's the only thing holding them up. If it weren't for the true horror of modeling plastic sleeves we'd have a fully supported army with plastic minis and a proper codex.yeah sure, they can sculpt a 20 foot tall armored skeleton with swirling ghosts and floating books but have faith in GW, they'll figure out the sleeve issue any day now.

This debate keeps popping up, and the more I read, the more I want to collect them regardless of a stagnant line.

I'd try my damned hardest to add IG allies, Female-Marine head swaps, and =I= forces to the mix.

And that'd just be for my own fluff and not a perfect list.


I hope they are eventually upgraded because they deserve it. If they can "re-invent" Dark Eldar to initial success, they can add some plastic Sisters, even if it's a new force slot.


What says SoB can't have bikes? A badass sister astride a scout bike or proper marine bike would be awesome. Flamers/meltas a must.

Or IG female regiments of devoted assistants?

And I'm also thinking of them more of a fluff force than models with boob-armour as some treat them.

I have a person in our club who plays the Sisters with Inquisitor and/or IG allies and he has been doing really well. With allies they can bring the hurt, as mentioned before.

If you like the army, go for it. It's not a common sight atleast.

DefiantLambdas wrote:
This debate keeps popping up, and the more I read, the more I want to collect them regardless of a stagnant line.

I'd try my damned hardest to add IG allies, Female-Marine head swaps, and =I= forces to the mix.

And that'd just be for my own fluff and not a perfect list.


I hope they are eventually upgraded because they deserve it. If they can "re-invent" Dark Eldar to initial success, they can add some plastic Sisters, even if it's a new force slot.


What says SoB can't have bikes? A badass sister astride a scout bike or proper marine bike would be awesome. Flamers/meltas a must.

Or IG female regiments of devoted assistants?

And I'm also thinking of them more of a fluff force than models with boob-armour as some treat them.

GW says. Or rather, they don't say anything at all unless they need someone to get killed in fluff to show how awesome another faction is.

 Veteran Sergeant wrote:
I stand by what I wrote, lol. What you choose to believe is a different story. I feel like your narrative is comforting to you.

No, I have formed by opinion based upon the facts: what GW has done, and what GW employees have said. Your theory is that GW really wants to drop the Sisters but can't because they fear the backlash, but several things that GW has said and done contradict this mindset.

And, to clarify, I can admit that plastic SoBs may not be coming soon. However, I also don't think that the situation is quite as grim as others here believe.

 Macharius. wrote:
Nothing official has ever came from GW about modeling issues with Sisters. I am not trying to be mean, but Sisters are just not popular with the masses enough to warrant a significant investment at this point.

Of course there hasn't been anything "official" (I assume you're referring to something like a blog post), GW never talks about stuff like this "officially". But what we do have is statements by GW employees stating this stuff at various events. Why this isn't as good as some "official" statement, I do not know.

Also, of course they aren't palyed very often, they are all metal, and direct-order only. But we also have a prominent example of this being turned around with the Dark Eldar, who were in a similar position but went on to be solid sellers after an update. There's also that their digital codex appeared to have sold well, which suggests a decent amount of interest in them.

 Sir Arun wrote:
GW hates sisters. This is an established fact.

Incorrect. Several prominent GW employees have been noted to have a fondness for the Sisters. Phil Kelly has said on a few occasions that he would really like to work on them, and Robin Cruddace has referred to them as one of his favourite armies. IIRC, Kelly also mentioned that there's three people on the GW dev team who have Sisters as a main army, so there's some support in there.

I think that a better description would be that they are, to some extent, apathetic towards them (at least the modellers are, anyway). They like them well enough, but they just haven't gotten around to actually doing anything.

 Musashi363 wrote:
Bu...bu...but it's those darned sleeves! That's the only thing holding them up. If it weren't for the true horror of modeling plastic sleeves we'd have a fully supported army with plastic minis and a proper codex.yeah sure, they can sculpt a 20 foot tall armored skeleton with swirling ghosts and floating books but have faith in GW, they'll figure out the sleeve issue any day now.

Nice strawman, but if you'd read the links I posted earlier, you'd see that this wasn't the only issue cited. A big time commitment being desired was also cited as a factor.

Oh, and in relation to that, I've noticed that in his latest comment on the Sisters, Goodwin didn't actually mention any modelling issues. Though, granted, this might not actually mean that the issues are fixed.

DefiantLambdas wrote:
What says SoB can't have bikes? A badass sister astride a scout bike or proper marine bike would be awesome. Flamers/meltas a must.

Sure, no reason they couldn't get some bikes. I think they'd be a cool addition, if they looked appropriately SoB.

Though some are against the idea, as they view this as being too similar to the Marines and would rather the Sisters branch off into their own direction (a buggy of some sort has been suggest, to this end). But, as I said, I think SoB bikes could be great if done well. I'm thinking something as thematically overblown as the Exorcist, but in bike form. Really hammer home the "holy warriors" theme.

 Troike wrote:

 Veteran Sergeant wrote:
I stand by what I wrote, lol. What you choose to believe is a different story. I feel like your narrative is comforting to you.

No, I have formed by opinion based upon the facts: what GW has done, and what GW employees have said. Your theory is that GW really wants to drop the Sisters but can't because they fear the backlash, but several things that GW has said and done contradict this mindset.

And, to clarify, I can admit that plastic SoBs may not be coming soon. However, I also don't think that the situation is quite as grim as others here believe.

 Macharius. wrote:
Nothing official has ever came from GW about modeling issues with Sisters. I am not trying to be mean, but Sisters are just not popular with the masses enough to warrant a significant investment at this point.

Of course there hasn't been anything "official" (I assume you're referring to something like a blog post), GW never talks about stuff like this "officially". But what we do have is statements by GW employees stating this stuff at various events. Why this isn't as good as some "official" statement, I do not know.

Also, of course they aren't palyed very often, they are all metal, and direct-order only. But we also have a prominent example of this being turned around with the Dark Eldar, who were in a similar position but went on to be solid sellers after an update. There's also that their digital codex appeared to have sold well, which suggests a decent amount of interest in them.

 Sir Arun wrote:
GW hates sisters. This is an established fact.

Incorrect. Several prominent GW employees have been noted to have a fondness for the Sisters. Phil Kelly has said on a few occasions that he would really like to work on them, and Robin Cruddace has referred to them as one of his favourite armies. IIRC, Kelly also mentioned that there's three people on the GW dev team who have Sisters as a main army, so there's some support in there.

I think that a better description would be that they are, to some extent, apathetic towards them (at least the modellers are, anyway). They like them well enough, but they just haven't gotten around to actually doing anything.

 Musashi363 wrote:
Bu...bu...but it's those darned sleeves! That's the only thing holding them up. If it weren't for the true horror of modeling plastic sleeves we'd have a fully supported army with plastic minis and a proper codex.yeah sure, they can sculpt a 20 foot tall armored skeleton with swirling ghosts and floating books but have faith in GW, they'll figure out the sleeve issue any day now.

Nice strawman, but if you'd read the links I posted earlier, you'd see that this wasn't the only issue cited. A big time commitment being desired was also cited as a factor.

Oh, and in relation to that, I've noticed that in his latest comment on the Sisters, Goodwin didn't actually mention any modelling issues. Though, granted, this might not actually mean that the issues are fixed.

DefiantLambdas wrote:
What says SoB can't have bikes? A badass sister astride a scout bike or proper marine bike would be awesome. Flamers/meltas a must.

Sure, no reason they couldn't get some bikes. I think they'd be a cool addition, if they looked appropriately SoB.

Though some are against the idea, as they view this as being too similar to the Marines and would rather the Sisters branch off into their own direction (a buggy of some sort has been suggest, to this end). But, as I said, I think SoB bikes could be great if done well. I'm thinking something as thematically overblown as the Exorcist, but in bike form. Really hammer home the "holy warriors" theme.

There's a huge disconnect between what a few staff have said and what GW does. They say "we're working on it." What they do (for over a decade now) is a whole not of nothing. I believe actions tell more truth than hollow words.

Sisters are great!

I am using mine in a league right now and have gone 2-1 with them.

They are expensive and you only get a digital dex and not many options but they are still pretty good. Plus most people haven't seen a sister army in action. When I start unpacking my army everybody comes over to have a look even though my army is merely painted to tabletop. Sometimes it's fun to be different.

 MWHistorian wrote:
There's a huge disconnect between what a few staff have said and what GW does. They say "we're working on it." What they do (for over a decade now) is a whole not of nothing.

They haven't actually said "we're working on it". In an nutshell, they've been saying that it's something that they want to do, but there are hold-ups on the sculpting end.

 MrFlutterPie wrote:
When I start unpacking my army everybody comes over to have a look even though my army is merely painted to tabletop.

Yeah, this is a pretty cool aspect of it. I get this reaction too.

You certainly stand out from the crowd if you play SoB.