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Rap mogul Marion "Suge" Knight was shot early Sunday morning at a pre-MTV Video Music Awards party on Sunset Strip in West Hollywood, the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department confirmed to USA TODAY.
"Early stages of the investigation indicated that the person known as 'Suge' Knight has been identified as one of several victims of this shooting that occurred in West Hollywood," Deputy Jeff Gordon of the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department says.
Gordon confirmed two other victims: a man, 32, and a woman, 19. The shooting occurred after 1:30 a.m. PT Sunday, Gordon says.
Knight remains in intensive care after undergoing surgery at Cedars-Sinai Hospital, TMZ says.
There is no confirmation about how many shots were fired, Gordon says. "We're still in the early stages of this investigation and don't have any updates at this time," he says.
Shots struck Death Row Records co-founder Knight, 49, at a nightclub party hosted by Chris Brown at 1 Oak and attended by Justin Bieber, The Game, apl.de.ap of the Black Eyed Peas and model Tyson Beckford, who tweeted out TMZ's report about the shooting.
Video posted at TMZ shows Knight getting into a police car after the shooting and the site says he was one of three victims.
"It's disappointing that we as a society can't have fun or enjoy ourselves without any altercations sometimes," Brown tweeted after the shooting.
In 1996, Knight was in the car with Tupac Shakur when the rapper was fatally shot in Las Vegas.
"In compliance with strict federal and state privacy laws, we do not confirm or deny anything about patients including whether someone even received treatment here," Laura Coverson, senior media specialist at Cedars-Sinai, told USA TODAY.
MTV issued a statement to USA TODAY, saying, "MTV has no affiliation nor is connected to this event in any way."
From Wikipedia, his personal and legal troubles.
Spoiler:
In 1996, Knight was sent to prison for a probation violation. In February 1997, he was sentenced to nine years for the violation. He was released on August 6, 2001.[34]
In 2003, he was sent to prison again for violating parole when he struck a parking lot attendant.[35] Death Row Records' income rapidly declined due to Knight's incarceration. It managed to save itself from complete bankruptcy by releasing archived Snoop Dogg compilation albums and posthumous Tupac albums. Despite signing new artists, Suge never released any of their albums.
In 2006 Knight was engaged in another dispute with former friend and ex-associate Snoop Dogg after Snoop insulted him in Rolling Stone.
On May 10, 2008, Knight was involved in an altercation involving a monetary dispute outside of a nightclub in Hollywood. He was knocked out for 3 minutes, taken to the hospital, and reportedly did not cooperate with the LAPD.
On August 27, 2008, Knight was arrested on drug and aggravated assault charges after leaving a Las Vegas strip club. When police arrived on the scene, Knight was beating his girlfriend of three years, Melissa Isaac, and brandishing a knife. Reports also allege that he was under the influence of both ecstasy and hydrocodone. As of October 31, police and prosecutors had still failed to contact Isaac, and no formal charges have been brought against Knight.[36] On December 5, 2008, Suge Knight was cleared of all charges. Knightâs attorney, David Chesnoff, said the prosecution had "discovery problems and witness problems". Prosecutor Susan Benedict did not immediately return a call for comment. When Knight was asked about the positive verdict he replied "God is good, Happy Holidays".
As part of an October 30, 2008 bankruptcy claim, Suge also filed a lawsuit against Kanye West and his associates. The lawsuit concerns an August 2005 shooting at Kanye's pre-Video Music Awards party, where Knight suffered a gunshot wound to the upper leg.[37][38] The lawsuit cites damages of mental and physical pain caused by the shooting, costs of surgery, loss of income and the theft of a 15-carat (3.0 g) $147,000 diamond earring.
In late March, 2009, Knight was implicated in the robbery of Akon producer, Noel "Detail" Fisher. According to Christopher Walker, an employee of Detail, on the morning of March 25, 2009, five armed men broke into Detail's house, stating that they were collecting a debt on behalf of Knight. $170,000 worth of jewelry was stolen, along with a locked safe, stereo equipment and the key to a Mercedes vehicle. Walker claims the incident is related to the altercation at the W Scottsdale Hotel in February.[citation needed]
Knight started a new record label called Blackball Records, with its first artist Young Life and featured it in a reality show, Unfinished Business. The show was based on Knight dispelling long-standing rumors in sit down interviews, his days with Death Row and the artists he worked with, and finding new talent for his record label. As of April 2009, the show had not been picked up by any major network.
Remaining items from Knight's personal property were auctioned in the first episode of Storage Wars on A&E, which aired on December 1, 2010.
On February 8, 2012, Suge Knight was arrested in Las Vegas, after police found marijuana in his car and several warrants for prior traffic violations. Suge is currently on three years unsupervised probation for driving with a suspended license
Some theories attest that Suge Knight was Tupac's killer. He's been a thug in the rap industry for years and if half what is rumored about his actions he had this coming a long time ago.
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It's fascinating the process that happens when words become taboo. Sometimes the process can be quite rapid. But now we have a way of using any word we want, but just saying "the X-word," and you get to communicate the word to everyone, without any of the baggage of actually saying it. It's like a verbal get out of jail free card!
Maybe in a couple hundred years we'll have so many taboo words that sentences like this one will look like this: The M-word the in-word the a-word the c-word the h-word the y-word the we-word have the s-word the other m-word the t-word (not the t-word) the word-word that the other s-word like this-word one will the l-word the other l-word this-word.
It's just interesting that despite his legal troubles, including assault and weapon convictions, you never hear, say... Eminem referred to as a thug. It's like there's something different about him.
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Ouze wrote: It's just interesting that despite his legal troubles, including assault and weapon convictions, you never hear, say... Eminem referred to as a thug. It's like there's something different about him.
That's just because nobody talks about Eminem anymore.
In seriousness, I'm pretty sure I've heard people refer to Eminem as a thug in the past. There are certainly a variety of white people I've heard referred to by other people as thugs. Putin springs to mind.
Ouze wrote: It's just interesting that despite his legal troubles, including assault and weapon convictions, you never hear, say... Eminem referred to as a thug. It's like there's something different about him.
Nice subtle accusation of racism. Even African-Americans frequently refer to Suge Knight as a thug. His persona is well known to those familiar with the late 90's/early 00's rap scene. Considering Eminem has been accused of misogyny, racism, homophobia, in addition to other things I'd say he's received his fair share of public criticism. Alternatively, we could pretend that he wasn't a public scapegoat when he first hit it big while African-American rappers frequently got a pass (or just ignored) for similar content. Considering that Eminem's only assault charge was in a response to allegedly seeing his wife kiss another man I'd say it is a bit of stretch to call him a "thug."
The only way we can ever solve anything is to look in the mirror and find no enemy
Hordini wrote: It's fascinating the process that happens when words become taboo. Sometimes the process can be quite rapid. But now we have a way of using any word we want, but just saying "the X-word," and you get to communicate the word to everyone, without any of the baggage of actually saying it. It's like a verbal get out of jail free card!
Maybe in a couple hundred years we'll have so many taboo words that sentences like this one will look like this: The M-word the in-word the a-word the c-word the h-word the y-word the we-word have the s-word the other m-word the t-word (not the t-word) the word-word that the other s-word like this-word one will the l-word the other l-word this-word.
I can't wait.
Eh, this has been happening as long as language has been codified (at least), and for as long as that there have been the same complaints and dire prognostications. I know we like to think we are special but we really aren't. Well I am, my mommy told me so, but the point still stands.
Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
Hordini wrote: It's fascinating the process that happens when words become taboo. Sometimes the process can be quite rapid. But now we have a way of using any word we want, but just saying "the X-word," and you get to communicate the word to everyone, without any of the baggage of actually saying it. It's like a verbal get out of jail free card!
Maybe in a couple hundred years we'll have so many taboo words that sentences like this one will look like this: The M-word the in-word the a-word the c-word the h-word the y-word the we-word have the s-word the other m-word the t-word (not the t-word) the word-word that the other s-word like this-word one will the l-word the other l-word this-word.
I can't wait.
Eh, this has been happening as long as language has been codified (at least), and for as long as that there have been the same complaints and dire prognostications. I know we like to think we are special but we really aren't. Well I am, my mommy told me so, but the point still stands.
What has been happening? Language has been evolving or words have become taboo or specifically "the X-word" phenomenon?
Ouze wrote: It's just interesting that despite his legal troubles, including assault and weapon convictions, you never hear, say... Eminem referred to as a thug. It's like there's something different about him.
Nice subtle accusation of racism. Even African-Americans frequently refer to Suge Knight as a thug. His persona is well known to those familiar with the late 90's/early 00's rap scene.
Yup. Guy's a pretty nasty piece of work by all accounts. A violent thug and bully masquerading as a businessman.
Does the word 'thug' have racial connotations in the States? That's interesting. That's not the case here. I mean, the word itself comes from Hindi but most people wouldn't immediately think of the Indian connection, if they were even aware of it at all.
Hordini wrote: What has been happening? Language has been evolving or words have become taboo or specifically "the X-word" phenomenon?
Well the X-word thing is just a specific incarnation of 'taboo words' and one that will pass just like others. I imagine in enough time only historians and linguists will remember it, and there will be some new way of approaching the subject. I also don't think "x-word" is that widespread either, and its mocked quite a bit, and rightfully so.
Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
Ouze wrote: It's just interesting that despite his legal troubles, including assault and weapon convictions, you never hear, say... Eminem referred to as a thug. It's like there's something different about him.
Nice subtle accusation of racism. Even African-Americans frequently refer to Suge Knight as a thug. His persona is well known to those familiar with the late 90's/early 00's rap scene.
Yup. Guy's a pretty nasty piece of work by all accounts. A violent thug and bully masquerading as a businessman.
Does the word 'thug' have racial connotations in the States? That's interesting. That's not the case here. I mean, the word itself comes from Hindi but most people wouldn't immediately think of the Indian connection, if they were even aware of it at all.
To some extent, yes, but it is greatly exacerbated by certain politically correct posters on this board.
The only way we can ever solve anything is to look in the mirror and find no enemy
it was subtle not at all. The frequency of the use of the word "thug" to describe someone of ill-repute is substantially more likely to pop up if the person in question is black, both on these forums and in the media at large. FFS, a moderator had to ban the word in a thread because of how it was used, so tell me more about how racially transparent it is, and then pull the other one because it's got bells on.
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Ouze wrote: it was subtle not at all. The frequency of the use of the word "thug" to describe someone of ill-repute is substantially more likely to pop up if the person in question is black, both on these forums and in the media at large. FFS, a moderator had to ban the word in a thread because of how it was used, so tell me more about how racially transparent it is, and then pull the other one because it's got bells on.
Depends on ethnicity. Many households will use "thug" and "hooligan" interchangeably.
I will use thug for any ethnicity except Hispanic. Basically anyone with a tank top and tats...
Attempts to make names for criminals to be racist is bad and you should feel bad.
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kronk wrote: I don't know who suge knight is. Did he "sing" anything I know?
He doesn't sing at all, he's a producer. Think Puff Daddy, back when you'd see him in videos but only saying "that's right" and "uh huh", before he started rapping.
lord_blackfang wrote: Respect to the guy who subscribed just to post a massive ASCII dong in the chat and immediately get banned.
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kronk wrote: I don't know who suge knight is. Did he "sing" anything I know?
He doesn't sing at all, he's a producer. Think Puff Daddy, back when you'd see him in videos but only saying "that's right" and "uh huh", before he started rapping.
kronk wrote: I don't know who suge knight is. Did he "sing" anything I know?
He doesn't sing at all, he's a producer. Think Puff Daddy, back when you'd see him in videos but only saying "that's right" and "uh huh", before he started rapping.
I thought Vanilla Ice built houses for the poor now? If so that makes him awesome X10 vs. well every other rapper ever born.
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