Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

So taking a look at the new SW drop pods, it *Appears* that pods are now able to be taken as fast attack choices. Which means nothing for the wolves-the only units in the codex who can embark on pods can take them as transports or are independent characters. But unless I'm reading it wrong, anyone with Battle Brothers could theoretically embark on a pod.

Which means I could take a list with three drop pods.

Put anything I want in one, doesn't matter. That's the one that drops turn 2.

In the two turn one pods we have A) an imperial guard veteran squad equipped with demo charges and B) a company command squad.

Turn one.

Pods down near the highest concentration of enemy troops.

Command squad issues the order "Smite at Will" (split fire.)

Everyone dies in a glorious explosion of the emperors wrath?

Can anyone confirm or deny if this is a thing I can actually do?

Yes, you can do this. And moreover, you can fill them with much nastier things than guardsmen.

For example, Centurions.

I thought units could only deploy in their own dedicated transport, which by definition rules out deploying in someone else's drop pod - or has that restriction gone in 7th Ed?

 Clang wrote:
I thought units could only deploy in their own dedicated transport, which by definition rules out deploying in someone else's drop pod - or has that restriction gone in 7th Ed?

SWs can buy them independently in Fast Attack now.

 Clang wrote:
I thought units could only deploy in their own dedicated transport, which by definition rules out deploying in someone else's drop pod - or has that restriction gone in 7th Ed?

According to OP drop pods can now be taken as fast attack for SW. Trukks look like fast attack for orks, so I believe him.

 gwarsh41 wrote:
For example, Centurions.

Dominons with Melta Guns and Ignore Cover

Yup, it's how GW is doing things now... although house rules might be in order to stem the tide of cheese.

Honestly as cheese goes that ones pretty counter playable. Screen with cheap units and you'll live and it'd probably cost more to field the unit that kills itself

From what I can tell all 7ed codices have the option to buy empty transports at the cost of a FOC slot.

In this case you could even take 3 empty drop pods to cause 4 of your non-empty ones to all come in first turn.

I get that you can _buy_ empty transports in several codexes (e.g. ork trukks too), but can you _deploy_ units in them? Is this explicitly covered in the BRB? Drop pods are slightly different to other transports in that you can't embark on them later in the game, e.g. after another unit has disembarked, but I presume all transports still follow the same rules re deploying in them.

Yes, you can embark units from an allied detachment in your pods as long as the allies are battle brothers. Why waste pods on IG when you can put grav cents in them? Pair with tigurius for either gate of infinity, invisibility or prescience, take your pic. I prefer prescience because it also comes with a 4++. Gate has a lot of risks. Invisibility can be very nice too but I think re rolling hits and wounds and getting a 4++ is better overall.

All of the codexes seem to be moving toward this and I just do not understand fundamentally why.

@Hollismason
Now I can field my SoB list from 3rd edition out of the Citidel Journal...Drop poding sisters!!!

Hollismason wrote:
All of the codexes seem to be moving toward this and I just do not understand fundamentally why.

cause they want to sell drop pods?

Toofast wrote:
Yes, you can embark units from an allied detachment in your pods as long as the allies are battle brothers. Why waste pods on IG when you can put grav cents in them? Pair with tigurius for either gate of infinity, invisibility or prescience, take your pic. I prefer prescience because it also comes with a 4++. Gate has a lot of risks. Invisibility can be very nice too but I think re rolling hits and wounds and getting a 4++ is better overall.

Because the grav cents with tiggy cost 415pts, whereas a special weapons demo team costs 90pts. Its easier to find a spare 90pts. Plus once the 3 charges are done and if the demo team haven't tripped on a charge and blown themselves up, the squad is worth 30pts so you don't need to worry about protecting them. And not everyone owns grav cents.

Hollismason wrote:
All of the codexes seem to be moving toward this and I just do not understand fundamentally why.

Maybe for players who have extra transports, so that they can run all their models if they wish to.

Hollismason wrote:
All of the codexes seem to be moving toward this and I just do not understand fundamentally why.

Because they didn't want to make a Dedicated Transport Icon

In fact... if you run 2 SW detachments and an allied guard detachment, you could take 6 pods, each with a demolitions team in for 750pts, take 5 grey hunters squads in pods too.
Then bring down the demo pods first, throw 18 st8 ap2 large blasts around the opponents army, then send in the 3 grey hunter squads to mop up. Imagine that alpha strike!!!

Hollismason wrote:
All of the codexes seem to be moving toward this and I just do not understand fundamentally why.

Think about it in fashion of fiction.

How often does a new rising hero join another force to do battle with a mutual enemy ?
Often, right ?
Does he foot slog in while they ride into battle, or do they ferry him into battle on whatever transports they are using ?

So if Space Wolves are Dropping out of the sky, their allies can be as well.

I expect to see similar Drop Pod rules in the Blood Angels Codex

Poly Ranger wrote:

Toofast wrote:
Yes, you can embark units from an allied detachment in your pods as long as the allies are battle brothers. Why waste pods on IG when you can put grav cents in them? Pair with tigurius for either gate of infinity, invisibility or prescience, take your pic. I prefer prescience because it also comes with a 4++. Gate has a lot of risks. Invisibility can be very nice too but I think re rolling hits and wounds and getting a 4++ is better overall.

Because the grav cents with tiggy cost 415pts, whereas a special weapons demo team costs 90pts. Its easier to find a spare 90pts. Plus once the 3 charges are done and if the demo team haven't tripped on a charge and blown themselves up, the squad is worth 30pts so you don't need to worry about protecting them. And not everyone owns grav cents.

I thought this thread was about the most effective use of them. I wouldn't add a whole allied detachment to pod in a 90 point squad that nobody is afraid of. I understand not everyone owns grav cents but this is a tactical discussion. I was trying to present the best options. If you don't own any, a trip to ebay, online GW retailer, FLGS or your local GW store should fix that problem.

Not really - the thread was about whether the OP was legally allowed to put A) demo squads in a pod and B) company command squads in a pod. He asked whether it would be good tactically as well - which it would be.
Now I'm not saying that suggesting grav cents isn't a good idea, or that it shouldn't be suggeated in such a thread. What I was getring at was, try not to make it out as though it is the 'only' decent option. It is not a 'waste' of points to do so.
To get grav cents in a pod you also currently need to add an allied contingent too.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
It'd be like me saying 'why on earth would you take an Ironclad dread when the BA furioso is better'.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Also you asked why take IG when you could take grav cents... I merely answered your question.

You need to pay the ally tax yes. However tigurius is already part of your cent star, so the HQ tax doesn't apply. A tac squad with a melta and combi melta is one of the best 130 point units in the game. It's worth paying an ally tax for a ridiculous death star and obsec melta pod squad. It's probably not worth it for some squishy guard that will most likely get shot to pieces as soon as the pod hits the table.

 Clang wrote:
I thought units could only deploy in their own dedicated transport, which by definition rules out deploying in someone else's drop pod - or has that restriction gone in 7th Ed?

I don't remember in 6th, but in the 7th Ed rule book. Only the unit that buys the dedicated transport can ride in the dedicated transport at the start of the game. But since SWs codex has drop pod in the Fast Attack category. It can be purchased as it's own unit. Not as a dedicated transport for another unit.

Brb says that battle brothers can ride in Battle brother transports.

So as long as you purchase the drop pod as a SW pod. Any battle brother can ride in it.

Gravturions
Legion of the damned
Command squads
All HQ hero's (this would be funny, Calgar, Tigirius, Vulcan, Chapter masters, chaplains, sicarius, ect ect)
Terminators
Combat squad assault or vanguard marines
Scions

Can you drop pod bikes though?

I don't think bikes or beasts like TWC can embark any kind of transport. They can be in the enemy's face turn 1 without spending 35 points so even if you could, I don't see the advantage.

Yes, it's legal, and shouldn't you fill them with stronger things like terminators or dreadnoughts than just plain guardsmen?

traditionally yes, however...

CCS, Astropath (for Psychic shriek) with Plasmax4, plasma pistol plus 3 plasma toting Priests, along with Relic and maybe a plasma pistoleer librarian....

16 plasma shots at BS 4.5 with ignore cover, or MH/TH..... rerolling wounds....

probably not the best use of points but would be great for lols.

Toofast wrote:
You need to pay the ally tax yes. However tigurius is already part of your cent star, so the HQ tax doesn't apply. A tac squad with a melta and combi melta is one of the best 130 point units in the game. It's worth paying an ally tax for a ridiculous death star and obsec melta pod squad. It's probably not worth it for some squishy guard that will most likely get shot to pieces as soon as the pod hits the table.

Doesn't matter if they get shot up. The only reason you take a demo team is so they can throw the demo charges. Once that's done the opponent can shoot at them all he likes. And it's not exactly like Pask is a hq 'tax' either.