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 Thairne wrote:
Never really thought about it and just accepted I had to put the PFG Tech on a bike... D'oh.
This makes the RAW really pointless. They could've just written "Power Field Generator has no effect while embarked". Why choose such a wording? Besides GW Style rules, of course...

If you put the unit in a building, the PFG would protect the guys inside from template hits and the odd pen hit striking a guy inside.

-Matt

nosferatu1001 wrote:
Works inside the vehicle, and can be measured from the hull as per the rule for embarked units.

I have the ebook, and I am having a hard time finding this rule, could you tell me exactly what section this is in? thanks

Sautek Supreme wrote:

nosferatu1001 wrote:
Works inside the vehicle, and can be measured from the hull as per the rule for embarked units.

I have the ebook, and I am having a hard time finding this rule, could you tell me exactly what section this is in? thanks

The measure from hull thing is in the BRB under embarking in transport.

Pag 80 under embarking. It's not in bold

 RunicFIN wrote:
Do I understand correctly that you created the BAO FAQ/this portion of it? If so then I guess there couldn't be a more direct answer!

More or less, yes, that is correct.

Someone else actually writes the document, but in this particular case the discussion was more or less about whether to go with the digital or print version and my (incorrect) understanding of the digital version was that it affected the vehicle (maybe I was getting the new KFF rules mixed up with the PFG in my mind), and nobody else involved noticed.

I'll bring it back up on the next conference call so that other events that use the same FAQ as a template can get it fixed for their event if they want.

Thanks for clearing that up yakface.

In related news, do the DA banners still work outside of embarked vehicles?

axisofentropy wrote:
do the DA banners still work outside of embarked vehicles?

Yes (see the comment above referencing page 80 of the Rulebook), all "area of effect" effects work in this way (and have done since at least 6th) without specific wording otherwise (such as the Ork Kustom Force Field or... dang, I'm sure there were other recent examples but I can't think of any right now).

If it helps, orks have the exact same wargear named Kustom Force Field. It doesn't extend from the hull if mounted inside. And it doesn't work vs template and explosions.

So in conclusion (?)

-The PFG does not affect the vehicle the carrier is embarked upon.

-Orks have the exact piece of Wargear in form of KFF and they can utilize it for their Stompa even, meanwhile the DA can't utilize it for any vehicle?

Atleast you can still slap it on a bike and ride behind a Land Raider...

 RunicFIN wrote:
So in conclusion (?)

-The PFG does not affect the vehicle the carrier is embarked upon.

-Orks have the exact piece of Wargear in form of KFF and they can utilize it for their Stompa even, meanwhile the DA can't utilize it for any vehicle?

Atleast you can still slap it on a bike and ride behind a Land Raider...

1) yes if you follow the eBook rule (which is most recent as per yakface's pictures)

2) No the KFF does not work if you are embarked because of it's wording.

I thought the KFF only protected the vehicle while embarked, as a specific exemption to the page 80 measuring rule?

nosferatu1001 wrote:
I thought the KFF only protected the vehicle while embarked, as a specific exemption to the page 80 measuring rule?

It does. Not sure where all the misinformation is coming from.

Yup that's me fully confused! Thanks for the rules post i am now clear on both...


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 BlackTalos wrote:

 RunicFIN wrote:
So in conclusion (?)

-The PFG does not affect the vehicle the carrier is embarked upon.

-Orks have the exact piece of Wargear in form of KFF and they can utilize it for their Stompa even, meanwhile the DA can't utilize it for any vehicle?

Atleast you can still slap it on a bike and ride behind a Land Raider...

1) yes if you follow the eBook rule (which is most recent as per yakface's pictures)

2) Similar rules, but ultimately very different.

Fixed

In a vehicle the KFF protects only the vehicle, not the passengers and the vehicle?

Naw wrote:
In a vehicle the KFF protects only the vehicle, not the passengers and the vehicle?

Yes that is correct