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my buddy is trying out a swarm lord tommorw night and i was curios as the best way to combat it i already have my list made of Grey Knights was just curious if my Vindicare assassin will be able to take it out?

I would assume it will have Tyrant Guards with it, he automatically can pass LOS to his guards.

It doesn't have fleet, or any way to get to you. You are facing T6 and 3+ saves. Krak missiles are its bane. Its slow, so maybe throw a speed bump unit in the way to slow it down. Rhinos work great for that.

If he is your friend, you should tell him to spend the points with a better choice.

He has 2 Flyrants but he wants to try something new since im playing a new army

Yeah the Vindicare is not designed to take out ICs such as the Swarmlord.

He is more about killing heavy weapon holders and sergeants. (Characters)

You think he will be worthless in the battle?

It's just easy to make him worthless. It mostly depends on how YOU play rather than the tyranid.

Stircrazy wrote:
You think he will be worthless in the battle?

Swarmlord gets a lot of hate online. Nothing wrong with him in a friendly game. A competitive Nid list want to spend the points somewhere else.

i was talking about the Vindicare assassin lol im playing GK not Tyranids XD

Do not "assassin" swarmlord with gks.

You want Stern and some halberd/hammer termies...skip paladins because instant death.

Use dreadknights on everything but swarmlord as well because instant death.

Use the Vindicare on everything else. Zoanthropes to pierce the Invulnerable save, Venomthrope to pierce cover, other various Synapse units. The Swarmlord is one of the few that it isn't good on, but it all depends how many guards there are. If there's three, not a chance. Ten wounds essentially plus whatever other buffs the swarm itself gives. But it can pick off the stragglers well enough, and especially warriors with heavy weapons if there's any of those.

Spending 3 turns on a Warrior with a heavy weapon is not your best bet.

I play GKs and Bugs

You don't have the points to waste in your GK army...you need every storm bolter, force weapon, and incinerator you can get.

Assassins are a hard sell for GKs when you could get 5 strikers with an incinerator and a hammer.

Sadly I'm literally using all my models in this fight I just started it and had to use it to fill out points

Gotcha, then my best advice is to always shoot him last.

Try and steal the last wound off whatever is standing that wouldn't die.

 ductvader wrote:
Gotcha, then my best advice is to always shoot him last.

Try and steal the last wound off whatever is standing that wouldn't die.

I dunno, depending on how much more synapse he has, getting rid if a potential 24" synapse, passing out Preferred Enemy, and passing psychic powers, you might wanna just focus fire him first. He's a big points sink, and depending on how he runs his army, killing him first might do you good.

Well try this will be my first time playing an army that isnt Orkz lol so its gonna be a big switch

Stircrazy wrote:
Well try this will be my first time playing an army that isnt Orkz lol so its gonna be a big switch

Man, I remember my first game using my Tyranids, where I was used to Necrons. Big jump. >.<

Would you all take incinerators or psycannons vs tyranids

Stircrazy wrote:
Would you all take incinerators or psycannons vs tyranids

I'm not familiar with GK weaponry, what are Incinerators?

There is a decent chance the Slord will LOS the wound away, which means you will likely kill a Tyrant guard. Which is a pretty good use of the assassin.

str 8 ap3 pie plates poon the swarmlords unit so hard its not funny.

A knight paladin with senechal upgrade will kill all 3 tyrant guard in one round of shooting on average. At this point you just mop up with plasma or hellfire sternguard.

Swarmlord needs 2+ save and regen + IWND to justify his costs sadly.

Well I don't have a paladin knight lol so I'll just stick go shooting the swarm lord with my assassin and any other juicy targets. I think cleaning flame will do work against him

Eihnlazer wrote:
str 8 ap3 pie plates poon the swarmlords unit so hard its not funny.

A knight paladin with senechal upgrade will kill all 3 tyrant guard in one round of shooting on average. At this point you just mop up with plasma or hellfire sternguard.

Swarmlord needs 2+ save and regen + IWND to justify his costs sadly.

If they are at max coherency with smarmy in the front middle I don't think you'd kill them all in one turn?

Assuming you're using the new GK dex, psilencers are apt to make a Tyranid player sweat.

Yeai didnt take any Psilencers but i will next time! it was a fun game we played Maelstrom and he got me by a point. i dont think i like the assassin's i mean they are good but bleh it didnt really kill anything just wounded gak

Stircrazy wrote:
Yeai didnt take any Psilencers but i will next time! it was a fun game we played Maelstrom and he got me by a point. i dont think i like the assassin's i mean they are good but bleh it didnt really kill anything just wounded gak

Swarmy is really good in Maelstrom. He exercises great board control.