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I was having a conversation the other day about "TFG" and it reminded me of an experience where "TFG" got what was coming to him. So I wanted to hear some stories from other folks where karma was served and the "TFG" got his just desserts. I'll go first.

First, some context. The game we were playing was 5th ed (maybe even 4th). This is important for three reasons: Deployment was table halves, with no model closer than 18" to an enemy, units could assault from Rhinos, and Fearless models lost Fearless if they joined a unit that did not have Fearless.

I was playing in the last round of a team tournament, and my partner and I had done really well, winning both our previous games. I don't remember his full army list, but our opponent had two huge squads of boyz, Ghazghkul Thraka and two squads of Lootas. He won the roll-off and meticulously placed his boyz RIGHT on the 24" line, daisy-chaining them from one end of the board to the other. This effectively shoved my teammate and I up against the board edge with no place to deploy. There was a large LOS blocking ruins on the side of our table side, which only further limited our deployment. He placed Gaz right in between the two squads, attaching to one of them. We were already frustrated by the deployment picture, but he would NOT shut up about how great Ghazghkul was.

I had two squads of Berserkers and a demon prince that I lined up as far to the side of the table as possible. I put the prince out hoping to draw the Lootas' fire. My teammate deployed to focus fire on the un-attached unit of boyz. Turn 1, he moved his line up, and his Lootas took the bait and deleted my prince off the board. You'd have thought he won the game already. On our turn I ran my Rhino's up, dumped out the Berserkers and assaulted the VERY edge of his boyz squad that had Ghaz. This drug all his boyz 6" towards my Berserkers, but because of his deployment, Ghaz was well out of assault range. My berserkers annihilated his boys, dropping their numbers well below 10. They subsequently failed their LD test, broke and were swept. Ghazghkull died without making a single attack.

The game had to stop because he was SO pissed. He spent like five or ten minutes trying to prove that Ghaz somehow didn't die, but the judge ruled in our favor. The rest of the game his mind wasn't in it, and we mopped him up. He spent the rest of the match fussing about how "OP" Khorne Beserkers were.

Assaulted out of a rhino? HmmHmm...

 Alex Kolodotschko wrote:
Assaulted out of a rhino? HmmHmm...

Did you miss the part where he said this was 5th edition?

You couldn't assault out of rhinos in 5th edition if they moved.

He did say in the beginning that this was possible in the tourny he was playing in.

Anyways, well played. Had he just used the deployment shenanigans -I- wouldn't have held it against him as I view tournies as all bets off. The Ghaz whining though, yeah he should have just accepted he had been out played.

Y'know, there are times when the planets align and Karma decides to uppercut a TFG right the baby-maker in front of someone; this is one of those times.

Anyhow, HILARIOUS.

I had one that was more a case of army match-up than anything else.

TFG was playing Necrons shortly after they came out. Now, he wasn't running an especially cheesy list, even for fifth edition (before Night Scythes were fliers) - lots of big units of Necron Warriors with Ghost Arks, led by a pair of Destroyer Lords in a unit of Wraiths.

I had my Sisters.

I sacrificed my BSS to take out the ghost arks with their meltaguns, then just erased the rest of his army with heavy bolter and heavy flamer retributors, not even using my faith points. Practically his whole army had 4+ saves, after all.

Still, he might have gotten away with it regardless, if I hadn't boltered down his Wraiths and then overwatched his D-lords to death with my command squad both times he tried to charge me.

Oh, the whining. Oh, the complaining about my overpowered Sisters.

Oh, the gets angry any time anyone mentions that he lost to me... three years later. Not to mention the furious denials and calling me a liar. When that happened, I told him I was perfectly happy to do it again, and he just... stopped talking. Heh.

Why is the Ork player in the OP TFG?

 Thud wrote:
Why is the Ork player in the OP TFG?

Apparently because he's using "dirty" deployment tactics to force the OP's forces into a 6" band and make them all perfect targets for blasts and ranged armies, while also preventing them deploying their entire forces due to the space constrictions.

 Deadshot wrote:

 Thud wrote:
Why is the Ork player in the OP TFG?

Apparently because he's using "dirty" deployment tactics to force the OP's forces into a 6" band and make them all perfect targets for blasts and ranged armies, while also preventing them deploying their entire forces due to the space constrictions.

Or...because he had a horrible attitude? If he'd been a pleasure to play against after deploying the way he did, which was legal, then I doubt the OP would remember him as TFG.

 Voidwraith wrote:

 Deadshot wrote:

 Thud wrote:
Why is the Ork player in the OP TFG?

Apparently because he's using "dirty" deployment tactics to force the OP's forces into a 6" band and make them all perfect targets for blasts and ranged armies, while also preventing them deploying their entire forces due to the space constrictions.

Or...because he had a horrible attitude? If he'd been a pleasure to play against after deploying the way he did, which was legal, then I doubt the OP would remember him as TFG.

That too. I'm in school so didn't get the chance to finish my post.

 Deadshot wrote:

 Thud wrote:
Why is the Ork player in the OP TFG?

Apparently because he's using "dirty" deployment tactics to force the OP's forces into a 6" band and make them all perfect targets for blasts and ranged armies, while also preventing them deploying their entire forces due to the space constrictions.

I don't think stuff like that should be held against somebody in a tournament. In friendly games yes but tournaments are about winning so one should expect their opponent to press all their advantages in order to do so.

5th edition, dawn of war deployment from the sounds, although you then couldnt deploy lootas (1Hq, 2 troops at most, noone else)

There was nothing saying you could assault out of rhinos at that tournament, and you couldnt do so even in 4th.

LordBlades wrote:

 Deadshot wrote:

 Thud wrote:
Why is the Ork player in the OP TFG?

Apparently because he's using "dirty" deployment tactics to force the OP's forces into a 6" band and make them all perfect targets for blasts and ranged armies, while also preventing them deploying their entire forces due to the space constrictions.

I don't think stuff like that should be held against somebody in a tournament. In friendly games yes but tournaments are about winning so one should expect their opponent to press all their advantages in order to do so.

Pretty sure it was more his attitude than his tactics.

What is particularly appealing is to beat someone despite their best efforts of leveraging a win any way they can at the expense of fun.

Remember taking on a Necron guy (think 5th edition).
Supposed to tip over a model that got shot down where they were and see if they re-animate.
He would remove them, roll them back to life, set them up within coherency in a long string toward objectives.
Noticed something was odd with this and asked about the rule.
Got all kinds of blah, blah, blah... would not show the wording in the Codex.

I just said "whatever" and it was like a blessing was performed.

I think I could not roll lower than a 4 and him higher than a 3.
When the scouts with sniper rifles on a building killed his Nightbringer and the Monolith could only kill one of them (for at least two turns of shooting)... it was feeling like divine intervention.
Killing Nightbringer then allowed the TH/SS Termies to jump out of the Landraider (admit they were cowering in there) to lay a beating on the Monolith.
We were both crying for different reasons.
He tried many other little silly stuff but it all seemed to make his play more defensive and mine more aggressive.
Anyway, I won, some tactics were at play but the hosy luck overcame his rule breaking ways more than anything.

It was after that game that I made a point of getting a good read of all codex's one way or another.
Not knowing the rules for their army and your opponent knowing it, can lead to at least temptation for abuse (or at least surprised by what was written).

 Talizvar wrote:
Remember taking on a Necron guy (think 5th edition).
Supposed to tip over a model that got shot down where they were and see if they re-animate.
He would remove them, roll them back to life, set them up within coherency in a long string toward objectives.

Depending on when in 5th that occured, he either played that part correctly or almost correctly. The earlier 'dex had you lay the model down where it was, but it didn't have to get up in exactly the same place - it just joined the nearest unit and was placed in coherency with it. The current Necron codex came out towards the end of 5th, and changes the "lay it down" for "remove and place a counter", that the Necron remains in the same unit, and must be placed in coherency with a model that hasn't just reanimated.
You've never had to stand it up exactly where it was (although this is a common wossname, thingummy, way of doing it).

I'll be honest, I'm probably getting some of the details wrong. We're talking 3 or 4 years ago, before 6th dropped. I know for sure I bought the Rhinos but couldn't tell you if my Berserkers started the game mounted or not. All I remember for sure was assaulting him and ruining his deployment shenanigans.

It wasn't JUST the deployment though. In a friendly game, I'll probably call out my opponent for the "dick move" but as several have stated, this WAS a tourney. It was all about attitude. This was a local, 3-game tournament with a battleforce or equivalent (about $90) up for grabs. My opponent and I had just come off two wins and I'm sure part of it was excitement. But seriously, all he could talk about was how awesome Ghaz was and how hard he was to kill and basically saying he was going to win the game practically before it started. His attitude didn't improve after my counter-shenanigans shenanigans either.